If it’s given to teachers, then they will have to also give it to healthcare staff, guards (who already get an accommodation allowance), etc. etc.
Looks like it going to be a busy morning for all the union reps.
It makes sense to have a Dublin adjustment. I can’t imagine we are going to attract teaching and other talent unless we compensate accordingly.
Does Norma Foley not realise that if those vacancies aren’t filled, she literally won’t be able to keep schools open? Over 100 teaching jobs still to be filled in Dublin right before school starts. Hard to believe she’s still in that job.
>the starting salary for teachers was €38,000 which was higher than other countries
Highest cost of living in Europe, so yeah the salaries *for everyone* (including minimum wage) are higher in Ireland. She’s really not the brightest is she.
Barring you were from Dublin you’d be fucking mad to teach in Dublin. You’d be better off on casual hours outside of Dublin, or if you wanted to get full time experience right out the gate you’d be better off going to the UK altogether. You’d come out well ahead.
Rental prices in those areas will mysteriously increase…
Don’t they do this already in other cities, like London? Seems like something that they should really look at – not really fair when you could have a teacher on the same salary renting in somewhere like Dundrum compared to a teacher renting in somewhere like Roscommon.
If you don’t have parents with a house in Dublin it is pointless getting a teaching job there.
It was quite normal up until 2011 for a wide variety of allowances. I think teachers (and other jobs) qualified for bonuses based on work conditions. Teachers for example would get extra for working in a Gaelscoil, the Gaeltacht, on an island, rurally etc as well as for having a higher grade degree or a masters.
They still have them in the UK I think, there was a job up in the Shetlands where you’d be making over 60k before tax because of the island and remote living allowance.
There seems to be very little incentive for merit. If you know you’ll get paid the same with a 2:2 as a 1:1, then why bother? There’s been a few high profile job posts the last few years (Oileán Chléire being the last I remember) where island schools and other remote areas are struggling to attract staff where a decade ago they at least offered some financial incentive.
It seems to be a catch 22 right now for younger/newer teachers. Either live down the country and struggle to find regular work or else get a full time job in Dublin but have little to show for it.
Definitely no easy answer though. If it’s done for them then other public sector workers (like guards and nurses) will rightly be asking why they aren’t getting similar treatment.
Or tax people who own second houses so there will be more supply and reduce the cost of housing as a whole. 1% tax for each additional house would bring thousands of extra properties to market.
Maybe it’s time to think about developing the other cites in Ireland? Clearly putting all our eggs in one basket is not working
Good.
Why is Billy the Puppet from SAW in charge of the Irish education system?
Sure don’t teachers have 8 weeks of free time in the summer to pick up a second job? /s
Wow if you looked up arrogance in the dictionary that picture of her face would be next to it.
Norma was much better as a mannequin in Boyers
Typical foley, not giving a shit about a problem that doesn’t affect her
The fact you get the same wage in somewhere like Longford as you do in Dublin for public sector jobs is completely bonkers and unfair.
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If it’s given to teachers, then they will have to also give it to healthcare staff, guards (who already get an accommodation allowance), etc. etc.
Looks like it going to be a busy morning for all the union reps.
It makes sense to have a Dublin adjustment. I can’t imagine we are going to attract teaching and other talent unless we compensate accordingly.
Does Norma Foley not realise that if those vacancies aren’t filled, she literally won’t be able to keep schools open? Over 100 teaching jobs still to be filled in Dublin right before school starts. Hard to believe she’s still in that job.
>the starting salary for teachers was €38,000 which was higher than other countries
Highest cost of living in Europe, so yeah the salaries *for everyone* (including minimum wage) are higher in Ireland. She’s really not the brightest is she.
Barring you were from Dublin you’d be fucking mad to teach in Dublin. You’d be better off on casual hours outside of Dublin, or if you wanted to get full time experience right out the gate you’d be better off going to the UK altogether. You’d come out well ahead.
Rental prices in those areas will mysteriously increase…
Don’t they do this already in other cities, like London? Seems like something that they should really look at – not really fair when you could have a teacher on the same salary renting in somewhere like Dundrum compared to a teacher renting in somewhere like Roscommon.
If you don’t have parents with a house in Dublin it is pointless getting a teaching job there.
It was quite normal up until 2011 for a wide variety of allowances. I think teachers (and other jobs) qualified for bonuses based on work conditions. Teachers for example would get extra for working in a Gaelscoil, the Gaeltacht, on an island, rurally etc as well as for having a higher grade degree or a masters.
They still have them in the UK I think, there was a job up in the Shetlands where you’d be making over 60k before tax because of the island and remote living allowance.
There seems to be very little incentive for merit. If you know you’ll get paid the same with a 2:2 as a 1:1, then why bother? There’s been a few high profile job posts the last few years (Oileán Chléire being the last I remember) where island schools and other remote areas are struggling to attract staff where a decade ago they at least offered some financial incentive.
It seems to be a catch 22 right now for younger/newer teachers. Either live down the country and struggle to find regular work or else get a full time job in Dublin but have little to show for it.
Definitely no easy answer though. If it’s done for them then other public sector workers (like guards and nurses) will rightly be asking why they aren’t getting similar treatment.
Or tax people who own second houses so there will be more supply and reduce the cost of housing as a whole. 1% tax for each additional house would bring thousands of extra properties to market.
Maybe it’s time to think about developing the other cites in Ireland? Clearly putting all our eggs in one basket is not working
Good.
Why is Billy the Puppet from SAW in charge of the Irish education system?
Sure don’t teachers have 8 weeks of free time in the summer to pick up a second job? /s
Wow if you looked up arrogance in the dictionary that picture of her face would be next to it.
Norma was much better as a mannequin in Boyers
Typical foley, not giving a shit about a problem that doesn’t affect her
The fact you get the same wage in somewhere like Longford as you do in Dublin for public sector jobs is completely bonkers and unfair.