If Ireland has to ‘move quickly’ in order to do anything you can be pretty sure that thing is not going to happen
We already tried the backwards theocracy thing.
Denmark is already on the way to being the Saudia Arabia of wind. If not there already.
I can only give my impression, that is because the Danish government is active at investing in the future of the country. It encourages public ownership such as community owned wind farms.
However, Ireland is dominated by landlords. Because it cannot look beyond a Tory model of the economy. People like that don’t have a mental model of investing in something for future return.
That’s why it waits for the private sector like Simply Blue Group to do these things
‘Move quickly’ That doesnt exist here.
[deleted]
Be better if we weren’t compared to Saudi Arabia in any sense
We have been ages trying to get updated wind energy guidelines in place so the idea we can move fast is just a non starter.
The objectors and nimby’s will see to it that we move even slower.
This is a very stupid take. Wind isn’t elastic the way fueled energy is and batteries are litterally less efficient than pumping water behind a dam.
NIMBYs and objectors and planning failures will see to it we get nowhere near this
Our political class see anything outside neoliberalism as communist.
For this to work would involve massive public investment and concrete public ownership. Never gonna happen.
Wind energy is a massive scam though. Requires far more maintenance than they like to claim and require a lot of oil to operate properly thats not even mentioning the cost in emissions to make them. Also they dont output enough power even when we have high output if we have low draw it goes to waste as we dont have adequate storage which doesnt even matter since theres a surprisingly high amount of time when they simply arent active due to low wind and even when they are active they have no grid inertia meaning the power they generate isnt transmitted efficiently and really require some other power generation to be operating at the same time.
We need nukes not wind and solar.
Could we not just start with the public stonings and build up to the energy monopoly?
If I understood correctly, price are calculated as follow : even if you had 90% free energy, but the last 10% was really expensive, the full load would be calculated with the price of the most expensive or something like that, I need to find the link again explaining more in details as this model would push for anticompetitive practices between “friends”, but if that’s true we are in trouble moving to renewable as people wouldn’t see any immediate benefit …
We don’t want to be Saudi Arabia of any thing. That country is doomed.
We should have the whole country surrounded by offshore windfarms. The government should launch a scheme for solar panels with 0% finance where you pay off the panels based on the cost of the electricity you used from them. Your electricity bill would stay the same until your panels are paid off then you get all the benefits and you were never any worse off.
Was on the Dublin cork motorway a few days ago and saw a wind farm near the Johnstown/Urlingford exit. There were about 10 of them, but none of them were spinning. Anyone any idea why not?
There will be no Saudia Arabia of wind. Wind is not power dense like oil.
Irish planning system is not comparable with moving quickly.
So human rights violations, slavery, and institutional misogyny by Xmas then?
Can anybody explain to me why an island beside one of the biggest stretches of unobscured ocean in the world uses almost no hydro-electric power?
I think the wind and stuff is great, and we should be using all the tactics we can, just seems bizarre that there’s not more HEP on AN ISLAND
21 comments
If Ireland has to ‘move quickly’ in order to do anything you can be pretty sure that thing is not going to happen
We already tried the backwards theocracy thing.
Denmark is already on the way to being the Saudia Arabia of wind. If not there already.
I can only give my impression, that is because the Danish government is active at investing in the future of the country. It encourages public ownership such as community owned wind farms.
However, Ireland is dominated by landlords. Because it cannot look beyond a Tory model of the economy. People like that don’t have a mental model of investing in something for future return.
That’s why it waits for the private sector like Simply Blue Group to do these things
‘Move quickly’ That doesnt exist here.
[deleted]
Be better if we weren’t compared to Saudi Arabia in any sense
We have been ages trying to get updated wind energy guidelines in place so the idea we can move fast is just a non starter.
The objectors and nimby’s will see to it that we move even slower.
This is a very stupid take. Wind isn’t elastic the way fueled energy is and batteries are litterally less efficient than pumping water behind a dam.
NIMBYs and objectors and planning failures will see to it we get nowhere near this
Our political class see anything outside neoliberalism as communist.
For this to work would involve massive public investment and concrete public ownership. Never gonna happen.
Wind energy is a massive scam though. Requires far more maintenance than they like to claim and require a lot of oil to operate properly thats not even mentioning the cost in emissions to make them. Also they dont output enough power even when we have high output if we have low draw it goes to waste as we dont have adequate storage which doesnt even matter since theres a surprisingly high amount of time when they simply arent active due to low wind and even when they are active they have no grid inertia meaning the power they generate isnt transmitted efficiently and really require some other power generation to be operating at the same time.
We need nukes not wind and solar.
Could we not just start with the public stonings and build up to the energy monopoly?
If I understood correctly, price are calculated as follow : even if you had 90% free energy, but the last 10% was really expensive, the full load would be calculated with the price of the most expensive or something like that, I need to find the link again explaining more in details as this model would push for anticompetitive practices between “friends”, but if that’s true we are in trouble moving to renewable as people wouldn’t see any immediate benefit …
We don’t want to be Saudi Arabia of any thing. That country is doomed.
We should have the whole country surrounded by offshore windfarms. The government should launch a scheme for solar panels with 0% finance where you pay off the panels based on the cost of the electricity you used from them. Your electricity bill would stay the same until your panels are paid off then you get all the benefits and you were never any worse off.
Was on the Dublin cork motorway a few days ago and saw a wind farm near the Johnstown/Urlingford exit. There were about 10 of them, but none of them were spinning. Anyone any idea why not?
There will be no Saudia Arabia of wind. Wind is not power dense like oil.
Irish planning system is not comparable with moving quickly.
So human rights violations, slavery, and institutional misogyny by Xmas then?
Can anybody explain to me why an island beside one of the biggest stretches of unobscured ocean in the world uses almost no hydro-electric power?
I think the wind and stuff is great, and we should be using all the tactics we can, just seems bizarre that there’s not more HEP on AN ISLAND