Yep,I’m one….not going to touch it.Gonna wrap myself up with every piece of material known to man
I thought we were all supposed to be basking in the glory of the sunlit uplands, post Brexit?
Fuck, at this point I’ll take moderately heated uplands.
Haven’t been turning it on the last few winters anyway to save money.
Can’t afford to turn it on lol.
The options are
1, eat but wrap up in enough clothes and a hot water bottle
2, heat the house and live on one meal a day
3, heat the house and eat but go into debt
I have electric no gas. Standard electric heaters. (Not storage) Old meter no economy 7 might try get a smart meter fitted and get a tariff with cheaper overnight energy
Even if you can’t afford to do it daily/continuously, you should definitely periodically run it briefly to keep the pipes from freezing.
I probably won’t bother with Christmas lights this year. Stock up on candles instead.
£350 a month last winter so that’ll be £1,000 a month this winter. That ain’t happening so heating not being used at all and the wood burner earning its keep. Luckily we have unlimited wood, will just need to get the chainsaw out more often.
So much for going the green route with a air source heat pump, that worked out well!!
I can afford it, I am privileged enough and live in a well insulated flat. However at some point it starts being a cost calculation. I will read where I used to play on my computer, cook less and only heat one small room as opposed to the living room.
Its going to be an insane experiment. Also, at this cost, the demand for electricity will crater, making the cost insanely high. The whole system will be shocked
Not an expert (maybe one could chime in), but I imagine **not heating your house all winter is likely to do damage to it**, maybe your pipework, encourage mold growth and presumably damage the boiler etc.
Might be best to turn it on for a bit now and again to stop such things happening as not doing so might leave you a big repair bill.
Makes me wonder for rental properties whether the landlord should cover the cost of basic once a day short burst heating for “upkeep” of the property. Nah.. of course they won’t, they’re landlords.
I’ve already started planning for this. And I’m cancelling my direct debit if the next price rise goes ahead.
I’m expecting 3 electric blankets to arrive today. Figured buy them now before they all sell out.
I won’t turn on my heating, new build insulation is legit.
Insulate Britain know what they are talking about.
How many people will get desperate and start making fires at home?
It’s half bad if you have a fireplace and functioning chimney.
Heard people are already going round and clear fly tips from any wooden materials.
It’s going to be a disaster if people start burning found furniture (all that chemicals…)
Landlords will saddle the bill for damp/mould damage with the tenants, I’m sure.
I will not be heating my home for comfort this year. I hear people say room temperature for comfort would be 20-22 degrees. (I prefer around 21 myself). But I’ll be setting my thermostat at 17 and only for the day. Night time I’ll get an extra blanket. And it’s staying off for weekday until the evening. Enough to make sure things don’t freeze and a allow me to wear an extra layer in the house.
They know the decisions they are making will cost thousands of lives.
But they get away with it because they do it with the stroke of a pen, rather than the thrust of a knife.
At some point it’ll be cheaper to leave the heating on just high enough to avoid issues like frozen pipes and use all annual leave in a block Jan/Feb on holiday somewhere warm with the holiday paid for by the energy bill saving.
Everyone’s clothes gunna have that didn’t dry right smell.
I understand the jokes but I didn’t have electricity (heat) for a week last winter and it was miserable.
I wore a bunch of clothes, which quickly got smelly because I couldn’t machine wash them – and, even if I could have, I didn’t want to remove them in any case because it was cold. I even put off even going to the loo until I couldn’t, because doing so let my body-heat escape. Hiding under a feather duvet all day keeps you (mostly) warm but your hands and face still get cold if you want to do anything as extravagant as read a book (you’ll get sick of woolly gloves and hats quickly). I could heat up enough water (gas cooker) to wash my hair with hot water but I still got cold in the process and, though hair will eventually dry by sapping the heat from your head, any fabric you handwash and hang to dry just… doesn”t.
It could be always be worse but something’s gone horribly wrong if people have to live like that for an extended period here and now.
I find it very hard to believe that it’ll only be 1 in 4.
I feel sick reading these comments, I can’t believe how bad it’s got that people will be going without heating in what’s supposed to be a rich successful country!!!
I moved to Australia 10 years ago my parents and siblings still live there. I will be sending money home to make sure no one in my family goes cold or hungry over winter. I can’t believe that I’m the lucky one because I have the means to help my family have what should be the bare minimum.
Seriously stand up and tell this government to fuck off, hit the streets and fight this can’t be a reality in the UK.
Energy companies know this, that’s why they doubled the standing charges, so we’d still have to pay more even if we don’t use any energy..
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The worst possible thing would be for the UK to now have an unseasonably cold, prolonged winter. It would be catastrophic.
I cant turn mine on either. I already eat just once a day. I’m on a basic wage so can’t afford much. Only things I’ll leave turned on is the fridge freezer and broadband router. Everything else will be turned off at the socket.
There will be so much more homelessness, suicides, death, malnutrition & a further burden on the NHS. Then the Tories will say we can’t afford the NHS so they can sell it off to their wealthy corporate mates. It’s all planned of course. Many shops/pubs/food places will close down. We are turning into a 3rd world country!! But people are too lazy and brainless in this country to do anything about it. Its what people voted for!
There will enough bonfires at local conservatives offices up and down the country. At least we’ll be able to eat a hot jacket potato
First world country and all that glory.
I honestly don’t get how come we aren’t seeing more protests and riots.
Think they need to get rid of this fucking ‘standing charge’ thing once and for all. Theyre making enough money already on unit prices. At least let us decide how much we pay by limiting use (or not)
Something I’ve seen landlords not consider is this…do you really think tenants are going to give a damn about keeping your property warm? Nope.
So all those properties that are entirely electric with water tanks and expensive storage heaters and have never been updated, they’re gonna be cold and likely damp as fuck this winter.
All it takes is a cap on the Gas supply price from the UK Wells, decouple renewable and nuclear generated power from the gas price and price of energy drops by 60%. It doesn’t new laws, just a state of emergency being declared.
Still can’t escape the standing charges. Standing charges should be illegal. I’ve been told that England is the only country that has them.
My friend had solar installed about ten years ago, it’s already paid itself off and his energy bills are tiny even in the dead of winter.
If we’d invested as a nation and worked on creating good systems to enable people and businesses to install solar then it would have taken a lot of pressure off the power system and lowered costs for everyone, especially during situations like this where there’s sudden international scrambling for fuels. Of course we did start moving in that direction but the Tories stamped it out because green energy is for hippies and their mates own the oil and gas companies.
There is stuff we can do though, jobs to be doing now before it get’s too cold and wet include checking the outside of the property and adding insulation where possible as well as reorganising the interior to provide better ‘casual’ insulation – this is when you use things like furniture and storage to decrease the rate of transfer through walls, picture for example a bungalow with four square rooms – if you have a wall of shelves stacked with books, clothing, etc against an outer wall then it’s delaying heat transfer through the wall, if you have the same shelf on an inner wall it’s doing nothing – unless of course you intend to keep only one room warm. I shifted round my bedroom and went from being always cold to sometimes needing to open the window for a bit. Fix the insulation on the loft flap too if you’ve got one, hot air rises so there’s a good chance that you’re just chimneying away a decent amount of money.
Plants like ivy are actually great insulation too, they create air pockets against the wall slowing the rate of transfer and provide a wind-break – the difference between blowing on hot soup before eating it and not. It’s too late to grow ivy for this winter but might be worth keeping it in mind and not cutting back too heavily – personally i think a wonderful solution is wall garden boxes, i’ve long wanted to make a series of boxes to mount against the wall to grow veg in – during the winter i’d have perspex panels joining them to act as a greenhouse which would not only help the plants grow but add heat to the house when the sun shines and reduce heat loss at night. Sure it’s not a solution for everyone but it’s the sort of thinking we should be doing, start cutting the amount of energy that gets wasted, start increasing the amount that gets captured, and make better use of what we’ve got. It’s ok to do something ‘odd’ or ‘weird’ if it’s making things better, if you were just going to sit around on your laptop watching netflix then why not put up a pop-up tent, fill it with cushions and blankets and snuggle in the warmth? yeah putting a tent up inside sounds like something crazy russians do (idea came from crazy russian sergey on youtube) but so what? you want a toasty snuggle palace or you want to be miserable and cold? pop up tents are like a tenner, deck it up nice and you’ll be sad to take it down when spring finally rolls back around. Not good enough? How about TWO tents! get a big tent to go round your smaller tent!
tl:dr – the government has absolutely let us down over this but let’s not let ourselves down, make yourself a snuggle palace and lets make the best of it.
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Yep,I’m one….not going to touch it.Gonna wrap myself up with every piece of material known to man
I thought we were all supposed to be basking in the glory of the sunlit uplands, post Brexit?
Fuck, at this point I’ll take moderately heated uplands.
Haven’t been turning it on the last few winters anyway to save money.
Can’t afford to turn it on lol.
The options are
1, eat but wrap up in enough clothes and a hot water bottle
2, heat the house and live on one meal a day
3, heat the house and eat but go into debt
I have electric no gas. Standard electric heaters. (Not storage) Old meter no economy 7 might try get a smart meter fitted and get a tariff with cheaper overnight energy
Even if you can’t afford to do it daily/continuously, you should definitely periodically run it briefly to keep the pipes from freezing.
I probably won’t bother with Christmas lights this year. Stock up on candles instead.
£350 a month last winter so that’ll be £1,000 a month this winter. That ain’t happening so heating not being used at all and the wood burner earning its keep. Luckily we have unlimited wood, will just need to get the chainsaw out more often.
So much for going the green route with a air source heat pump, that worked out well!!
I can afford it, I am privileged enough and live in a well insulated flat. However at some point it starts being a cost calculation. I will read where I used to play on my computer, cook less and only heat one small room as opposed to the living room.
Its going to be an insane experiment. Also, at this cost, the demand for electricity will crater, making the cost insanely high. The whole system will be shocked
Not an expert (maybe one could chime in), but I imagine **not heating your house all winter is likely to do damage to it**, maybe your pipework, encourage mold growth and presumably damage the boiler etc.
Might be best to turn it on for a bit now and again to stop such things happening as not doing so might leave you a big repair bill.
Makes me wonder for rental properties whether the landlord should cover the cost of basic once a day short burst heating for “upkeep” of the property. Nah.. of course they won’t, they’re landlords.
I’ve already started planning for this. And I’m cancelling my direct debit if the next price rise goes ahead.
I’m expecting 3 electric blankets to arrive today. Figured buy them now before they all sell out.
I won’t turn on my heating, new build insulation is legit.
Insulate Britain know what they are talking about.
How many people will get desperate and start making fires at home?
It’s half bad if you have a fireplace and functioning chimney.
Heard people are already going round and clear fly tips from any wooden materials.
It’s going to be a disaster if people start burning found furniture (all that chemicals…)
Landlords will saddle the bill for damp/mould damage with the tenants, I’m sure.
I will not be heating my home for comfort this year. I hear people say room temperature for comfort would be 20-22 degrees. (I prefer around 21 myself). But I’ll be setting my thermostat at 17 and only for the day. Night time I’ll get an extra blanket. And it’s staying off for weekday until the evening. Enough to make sure things don’t freeze and a allow me to wear an extra layer in the house.
They know the decisions they are making will cost thousands of lives.
But they get away with it because they do it with the stroke of a pen, rather than the thrust of a knife.
At some point it’ll be cheaper to leave the heating on just high enough to avoid issues like frozen pipes and use all annual leave in a block Jan/Feb on holiday somewhere warm with the holiday paid for by the energy bill saving.
Everyone’s clothes gunna have that didn’t dry right smell.
I understand the jokes but I didn’t have electricity (heat) for a week last winter and it was miserable.
I wore a bunch of clothes, which quickly got smelly because I couldn’t machine wash them – and, even if I could have, I didn’t want to remove them in any case because it was cold. I even put off even going to the loo until I couldn’t, because doing so let my body-heat escape. Hiding under a feather duvet all day keeps you (mostly) warm but your hands and face still get cold if you want to do anything as extravagant as read a book (you’ll get sick of woolly gloves and hats quickly). I could heat up enough water (gas cooker) to wash my hair with hot water but I still got cold in the process and, though hair will eventually dry by sapping the heat from your head, any fabric you handwash and hang to dry just… doesn”t.
It could be always be worse but something’s gone horribly wrong if people have to live like that for an extended period here and now.
I find it very hard to believe that it’ll only be 1 in 4.
I feel sick reading these comments, I can’t believe how bad it’s got that people will be going without heating in what’s supposed to be a rich successful country!!!
I moved to Australia 10 years ago my parents and siblings still live there. I will be sending money home to make sure no one in my family goes cold or hungry over winter. I can’t believe that I’m the lucky one because I have the means to help my family have what should be the bare minimum.
Seriously stand up and tell this government to fuck off, hit the streets and fight this can’t be a reality in the UK.
Energy companies know this, that’s why they doubled the standing charges, so we’d still have to pay more even if we don’t use any energy..
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The worst possible thing would be for the UK to now have an unseasonably cold, prolonged winter. It would be catastrophic.
I cant turn mine on either. I already eat just once a day. I’m on a basic wage so can’t afford much. Only things I’ll leave turned on is the fridge freezer and broadband router. Everything else will be turned off at the socket.
There will be so much more homelessness, suicides, death, malnutrition & a further burden on the NHS. Then the Tories will say we can’t afford the NHS so they can sell it off to their wealthy corporate mates. It’s all planned of course. Many shops/pubs/food places will close down. We are turning into a 3rd world country!! But people are too lazy and brainless in this country to do anything about it. Its what people voted for!
There will enough bonfires at local conservatives offices up and down the country. At least we’ll be able to eat a hot jacket potato
First world country and all that glory.
I honestly don’t get how come we aren’t seeing more protests and riots.
Think they need to get rid of this fucking ‘standing charge’ thing once and for all. Theyre making enough money already on unit prices. At least let us decide how much we pay by limiting use (or not)
Something I’ve seen landlords not consider is this…do you really think tenants are going to give a damn about keeping your property warm? Nope.
So all those properties that are entirely electric with water tanks and expensive storage heaters and have never been updated, they’re gonna be cold and likely damp as fuck this winter.
And here is a solution by a sensible thinker:
https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1564157639621312512?s=20&t=Q1HKdydnMhlKNp0Bno1-AA
All it takes is a cap on the Gas supply price from the UK Wells, decouple renewable and nuclear generated power from the gas price and price of energy drops by 60%. It doesn’t new laws, just a state of emergency being declared.
Still can’t escape the standing charges. Standing charges should be illegal. I’ve been told that England is the only country that has them.
My friend had solar installed about ten years ago, it’s already paid itself off and his energy bills are tiny even in the dead of winter.
If we’d invested as a nation and worked on creating good systems to enable people and businesses to install solar then it would have taken a lot of pressure off the power system and lowered costs for everyone, especially during situations like this where there’s sudden international scrambling for fuels. Of course we did start moving in that direction but the Tories stamped it out because green energy is for hippies and their mates own the oil and gas companies.
There is stuff we can do though, jobs to be doing now before it get’s too cold and wet include checking the outside of the property and adding insulation where possible as well as reorganising the interior to provide better ‘casual’ insulation – this is when you use things like furniture and storage to decrease the rate of transfer through walls, picture for example a bungalow with four square rooms – if you have a wall of shelves stacked with books, clothing, etc against an outer wall then it’s delaying heat transfer through the wall, if you have the same shelf on an inner wall it’s doing nothing – unless of course you intend to keep only one room warm. I shifted round my bedroom and went from being always cold to sometimes needing to open the window for a bit. Fix the insulation on the loft flap too if you’ve got one, hot air rises so there’s a good chance that you’re just chimneying away a decent amount of money.
Plants like ivy are actually great insulation too, they create air pockets against the wall slowing the rate of transfer and provide a wind-break – the difference between blowing on hot soup before eating it and not. It’s too late to grow ivy for this winter but might be worth keeping it in mind and not cutting back too heavily – personally i think a wonderful solution is wall garden boxes, i’ve long wanted to make a series of boxes to mount against the wall to grow veg in – during the winter i’d have perspex panels joining them to act as a greenhouse which would not only help the plants grow but add heat to the house when the sun shines and reduce heat loss at night. Sure it’s not a solution for everyone but it’s the sort of thinking we should be doing, start cutting the amount of energy that gets wasted, start increasing the amount that gets captured, and make better use of what we’ve got. It’s ok to do something ‘odd’ or ‘weird’ if it’s making things better, if you were just going to sit around on your laptop watching netflix then why not put up a pop-up tent, fill it with cushions and blankets and snuggle in the warmth? yeah putting a tent up inside sounds like something crazy russians do (idea came from crazy russian sergey on youtube) but so what? you want a toasty snuggle palace or you want to be miserable and cold? pop up tents are like a tenner, deck it up nice and you’ll be sad to take it down when spring finally rolls back around. Not good enough? How about TWO tents! get a big tent to go round your smaller tent!
tl:dr – the government has absolutely let us down over this but let’s not let ourselves down, make yourself a snuggle palace and lets make the best of it.