I am in favor of pretty much anything that keeps the light on. However, am I the only one that finds this solution weird?
>The Swiss government has commandeered eight mobile gas turbines to strengthen the country’s energy security. (…) They are powered by gas, but also by oil or hydrogen.
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>(…) In addition, negotiations with other potential suppliers of reserve power plants are still underway.
So these turbines can be powered with various fuels, the realistic ones being gas and oil. Aren’t dependencies on gas and oil a primary contributing factor to what is causing the energy crisis in the first place?
The Swiss government has set a voluntary reduction target for the winter to safeguard against potential gas shortages in Europe, and aims for a reduction of 15%.
>The head of the Swiss Federal Electricity Commission (Elcom) reckons a winter energy crisis is virtually unavoidable. However, he said the cause of the problem – war in Ukraine – was also difficult to predict.
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>As for claims that the situation was exacerbated by Swiss energy policy in recent years – notably the goal of phasing out nuclear power – Luginbühl said this wasn’t the case.
If the phasing out doesn’t affect capacities and the problem is fuel, why do we need more power plants as the government aims to conserve those fuels? You’d assume that if it was just a fuel shortage, securing additional fuel depots would be the way to go.
This solution will consume much more of the fuel which is supplied unreliably, and the significant increase in capacity of 250 megawatts in this deal, plus the fact that additional deals are being made, suspiciously looks like they are desperately trying to compensate the nominal 350 megawatt capacity of the decommissioned Mühleberg nuclear power plant, which this year presumably cannot be compensated for by imports from Europe.
These people are lying through their teeth.
Yeah this makes sense, if our hydro levels stay low (the super dry summer has not been good) Switzerland will have to import quite a lot of electricity this winter, and it’s uncertain how easy that will be, with the neighbouring countries also risking shortages. Backup generators with the flexibility to be fuelled by gas or oil will be useful.
I love our government
Sheldon Cooper would have build a mini nuclear plant able to provide enough energy for a city… 🤣
Here’s a thought: How about we do not spend all the stored water to sell to other countries now, but instead save it for the winter when we need it ourselves.
Very egoistic, I know, but still beats setting up turbines with a three-year life expectancy.
i think about a year ago there was some problem with the EU and energy. As a solution, switzerland planned to build some gas powerplants. might be this is just some kind of left over action from then or just the continuum?
Ok stupid question but isn’t it pointless since Russia is expected to cut its gas deliveries? So with what are we gonna supply these gas turbines?
Hmm, how is it a “buy” if they’ll only be available until 2026?
Isn’t it more like we paid half a billion to *rent* them for four years?
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I am in favor of pretty much anything that keeps the light on. However, am I the only one that finds this solution weird?
>The Swiss government has commandeered eight mobile gas turbines to strengthen the country’s energy security. (…) They are powered by gas, but also by oil or hydrogen.
>
>(…) In addition, negotiations with other potential suppliers of reserve power plants are still underway.
So these turbines can be powered with various fuels, the realistic ones being gas and oil. Aren’t dependencies on gas and oil a primary contributing factor to what is causing the energy crisis in the first place?
The Swiss government has set a voluntary reduction target for the winter to safeguard against potential gas shortages in Europe, and aims for a reduction of 15%.
(From [a different article](https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-electricity-boss–energy-policy-not-to-blame-for-shortages/47857452)):
>The head of the Swiss Federal Electricity Commission (Elcom) reckons a winter energy crisis is virtually unavoidable. However, he said the cause of the problem – war in Ukraine – was also difficult to predict.
>
>(…)
>
>As for claims that the situation was exacerbated by Swiss energy policy in recent years – notably the goal of phasing out nuclear power – Luginbühl said this wasn’t the case.
If the phasing out doesn’t affect capacities and the problem is fuel, why do we need more power plants as the government aims to conserve those fuels? You’d assume that if it was just a fuel shortage, securing additional fuel depots would be the way to go.
This solution will consume much more of the fuel which is supplied unreliably, and the significant increase in capacity of 250 megawatts in this deal, plus the fact that additional deals are being made, suspiciously looks like they are desperately trying to compensate the nominal 350 megawatt capacity of the decommissioned Mühleberg nuclear power plant, which this year presumably cannot be compensated for by imports from Europe.
These people are lying through their teeth.
Yeah this makes sense, if our hydro levels stay low (the super dry summer has not been good) Switzerland will have to import quite a lot of electricity this winter, and it’s uncertain how easy that will be, with the neighbouring countries also risking shortages. Backup generators with the flexibility to be fuelled by gas or oil will be useful.
I love our government
Sheldon Cooper would have build a mini nuclear plant able to provide enough energy for a city… 🤣
Here’s a thought: How about we do not spend all the stored water to sell to other countries now, but instead save it for the winter when we need it ourselves.
Very egoistic, I know, but still beats setting up turbines with a three-year life expectancy.
i think about a year ago there was some problem with the EU and energy. As a solution, switzerland planned to build some gas powerplants. might be this is just some kind of left over action from then or just the continuum?
Ok stupid question but isn’t it pointless since Russia is expected to cut its gas deliveries? So with what are we gonna supply these gas turbines?
Hmm, how is it a “buy” if they’ll only be available until 2026?
Isn’t it more like we paid half a billion to *rent* them for four years?