Ho letto negli ultimi giorni molto su Kiwi Farms, questo articolo fa un buon riassunto.
In tutto questo mi spaventa, come sempre, il potere di queste multinazionali, come Cloudflare in questo caso, che ora è uno dei giudici e può decidere se ospitare o meno un sito.
Meglio Cloudflare, che fa finta o tenta di essere neutrale fino a che c’è troppa pressione per decidere (anche Telegram è simile) o meglio altri, che in un certo senso intervengono prima o che fanno finta di essere i buoni, come Reddit, Facebook?
Figa quanto odio il vizio del post di mettere “spiegato bene”.
Ma spiegato bene in base a cosa zio pera
Edit non era nel titolo del post.it mio errore
Mamma mia state sempre a piange, passate proprio le giornate così, vi piace proprio non c’è niente da fare
“Spiegata/spiegato bene” equivale a “non sappiamo spiegarlo nemmeno noi quindi vi attaccate al cazzo”
>kiwi farm
io “flashback tipo vietnman con Chris Chan”
oddio no…..
Sono quasi delusa perché non dicono che questo sito era nato con lo scopo di trollare Chris-Chan. Il Post ha “solo” dato una sbirciata al baratro.
Beh in questo caso sono contento. Non facevano altro che perseguitare donne trans con lo scopo più o meno velato di portarle al suicidio.
Porco giuda che postaccio Kiwi Farms, letteralmente il letamaio del web, spero non ironicamente che lo chiudano una volta per tutte
una miniera d’oro per i troll
Ah sì sì. Perché Keffals che fa del deplatforming un’arma e si vanta di rovinare la gente e di vendicarsi dei bulli come vuole è esattamente il tipo di persona che come società civile dovremmo supportare…
Soffocare l’odio aiuta sicuramente, ma farlo a favore di persone esecrabili non aiuta.
>In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.
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>I want to appraise our situation frankly.
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>Domain Registrar Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.
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>DDoS Mitigation DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don’t have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.
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>Resource Allocation I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC’s region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.
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>Hosting We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said “bring it on” for less than 24 hours.
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>This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.
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>This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren’t even the real problem – the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.
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>And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don’t want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.
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>More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet’s corporate parking lot is not allowed.
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>I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.
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Ho letto negli ultimi giorni molto su Kiwi Farms, questo articolo fa un buon riassunto.
In tutto questo mi spaventa, come sempre, il potere di queste multinazionali, come Cloudflare in questo caso, che ora è uno dei giudici e può decidere se ospitare o meno un sito.
Meglio Cloudflare, che fa finta o tenta di essere neutrale fino a che c’è troppa pressione per decidere (anche Telegram è simile) o meglio altri, che in un certo senso intervengono prima o che fanno finta di essere i buoni, come Reddit, Facebook?
Figa quanto odio il vizio del post di mettere “spiegato bene”.
Ma spiegato bene in base a cosa zio pera
Edit non era nel titolo del post.it mio errore
Mamma mia state sempre a piange, passate proprio le giornate così, vi piace proprio non c’è niente da fare
“Spiegata/spiegato bene” equivale a “non sappiamo spiegarlo nemmeno noi quindi vi attaccate al cazzo”
>kiwi farm
io “flashback tipo vietnman con Chris Chan”
oddio no…..
Sono quasi delusa perché non dicono che questo sito era nato con lo scopo di trollare Chris-Chan. Il Post ha “solo” dato una sbirciata al baratro.
Beh in questo caso sono contento. Non facevano altro che perseguitare donne trans con lo scopo più o meno velato di portarle al suicidio.
Porco giuda che postaccio Kiwi Farms, letteralmente il letamaio del web, spero non ironicamente che lo chiudano una volta per tutte
una miniera d’oro per i troll
Ah sì sì. Perché Keffals che fa del deplatforming un’arma e si vanta di rovinare la gente e di vendicarsi dei bulli come vuole è esattamente il tipo di persona che come società civile dovremmo supportare…
Soffocare l’odio aiuta sicuramente, ma farlo a favore di persone esecrabili non aiuta.
>In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.
>
>I want to appraise our situation frankly.
>
>Domain Registrar Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.
>
>DDoS Mitigation DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don’t have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.
>
>Resource Allocation I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC’s region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.
>
>Hosting We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said “bring it on” for less than 24 hours.
>
>This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.
>
>This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren’t even the real problem – the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.
>
>And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don’t want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.
>
>More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet’s corporate parking lot is not allowed.
>
>I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.
Dal canale Telegram
La grande tradizione dei siti giornalistici mainstream di non capire un cazzo di fenomeni internettiani di lunga data continua.