This is the answer I got from a landlord when enquiring about an apartment.
This is absolutely crazy.
Never going to get my own place 😔
I’ve recently sold up, but my rental in a decent suburb in a Welsh city had 1100 people apply for it as I rented it at an ethical price. Not all landlords are asshats; some of us ended up becoming landlords accidentally when having to move overseas for work etc.
I’d someone recently tell me they had similar numbers looking at a room in Dublin. They didn’t own it just the landlord was giving the two in-place tenants the freedom to pick who they were comfortable living with. 350 had ALOT of spoofers in it. I’d count the people who don’t want to view as spoofers too. It’s as much about wanting to meet the person you’ll be living with as them making sure the property exists. Had a person pull out once offered the place. No reasoning, just ghosted. Landlord freaked at that and *jokingly/half-jokingly* wondered if people could give cash deposits on accepting an offer. Had a person even ask if the listed price (circa 800 so already on the lower but not quite lowest end of what’s on daft in D8) could be negotiated down which I thought was ~~ballsy~~ foolhardy given what you hear about the market.
350 “enquiries” to be fair.
There are people sitting on daft with a template email ready to go and they literally enquire for every new listing, regardless of where it is or how much. The logic from their point of view is that it’s easier to filter the responses to their enquiry than it is to be discerning about which properties they apply for.
Talk to anyone who lists on daft, and they’ll tell you the first emails start coming in after five minutes. People have browser add-ons and other automations running to alert them every time something pops up.
All that said, this guy claims he’s had 350 enquiries, amounts offered way over asking and people willing to sign for it without seeing it.
And yet here he is responding to you with a manually written email? Why you? He’s not writing bespoke emails to 350 enquiries, you can be damn sure of that.
If the above statement was true he would have taken one of these big offers and deleted the other 349 enquiries without responding.
In short, he’s lying to you and trying to exploit the current situation and your panic to get you to offer more. I have no doubt he has a lot of enquiries. But if there wasn’t a hope in hell that you would get this property, he wouldn’t have even looked at your mail.
That alone should be a red flag. If this is how he starts the rental, what other bullshit will he pull along the way.
My sister works in an estate agents, they had 650 responses to a rental ad in one day recently.
How long were you though?
Entirely likely many of those offering amounts way over the asking price without seeing it are institutional investors (BlackRock, etc).
I’m of the opinion that if SF or any government can rally the people, we can sort out this crisis in 10 or so years.
Already we’re seeing massive upticks in the amount of youths applying for apprenticeships (source: brother works in the DoE and has said the amount of young people applying to trades has shot up this year).
If we can come together, I don’t see why we cannot solve this. But we need to get out and vote, we need to protest and most importantly, we need to return to the trades and pour money into social and private housing.
I understand the pessimism but we’re Irish and we’ve survived a lot worse than this. This is fixable and we can do it.
“not playing this card, just casually mentioning it so you feel pressured to do it as well, because obviously if you don’t you’re fucking out”
Kinda sus that he’s personally answering too. Really, 350 enquiries and you’re just the lucky special one who gets personalised messages?
So we’re at the point where the tenants are basically having to bid on rent? Christ…
This is everywhere, we went to a viewing last year and the lady had the ad up for less than 24 hours, she got over 5000 views, 600 emails and when we went to view it there was 25 other people there! This was a very small “2 bed” in cork city, second room was just about big enough for a baby crib and it was €1500/m
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This is the answer I got from a landlord when enquiring about an apartment.
This is absolutely crazy.
Never going to get my own place 😔
I’ve recently sold up, but my rental in a decent suburb in a Welsh city had 1100 people apply for it as I rented it at an ethical price. Not all landlords are asshats; some of us ended up becoming landlords accidentally when having to move overseas for work etc.
I’d someone recently tell me they had similar numbers looking at a room in Dublin. They didn’t own it just the landlord was giving the two in-place tenants the freedom to pick who they were comfortable living with. 350 had ALOT of spoofers in it. I’d count the people who don’t want to view as spoofers too. It’s as much about wanting to meet the person you’ll be living with as them making sure the property exists. Had a person pull out once offered the place. No reasoning, just ghosted. Landlord freaked at that and *jokingly/half-jokingly* wondered if people could give cash deposits on accepting an offer. Had a person even ask if the listed price (circa 800 so already on the lower but not quite lowest end of what’s on daft in D8) could be negotiated down which I thought was ~~ballsy~~ foolhardy given what you hear about the market.
350 “enquiries” to be fair.
There are people sitting on daft with a template email ready to go and they literally enquire for every new listing, regardless of where it is or how much. The logic from their point of view is that it’s easier to filter the responses to their enquiry than it is to be discerning about which properties they apply for.
Talk to anyone who lists on daft, and they’ll tell you the first emails start coming in after five minutes. People have browser add-ons and other automations running to alert them every time something pops up.
All that said, this guy claims he’s had 350 enquiries, amounts offered way over asking and people willing to sign for it without seeing it.
And yet here he is responding to you with a manually written email? Why you? He’s not writing bespoke emails to 350 enquiries, you can be damn sure of that.
If the above statement was true he would have taken one of these big offers and deleted the other 349 enquiries without responding.
In short, he’s lying to you and trying to exploit the current situation and your panic to get you to offer more. I have no doubt he has a lot of enquiries. But if there wasn’t a hope in hell that you would get this property, he wouldn’t have even looked at your mail.
That alone should be a red flag. If this is how he starts the rental, what other bullshit will he pull along the way.
My sister works in an estate agents, they had 650 responses to a rental ad in one day recently.
How long were you though?
Entirely likely many of those offering amounts way over the asking price without seeing it are institutional investors (BlackRock, etc).
I’m of the opinion that if SF or any government can rally the people, we can sort out this crisis in 10 or so years.
Already we’re seeing massive upticks in the amount of youths applying for apprenticeships (source: brother works in the DoE and has said the amount of young people applying to trades has shot up this year).
If we can come together, I don’t see why we cannot solve this. But we need to get out and vote, we need to protest and most importantly, we need to return to the trades and pour money into social and private housing.
I understand the pessimism but we’re Irish and we’ve survived a lot worse than this. This is fixable and we can do it.
“not playing this card, just casually mentioning it so you feel pressured to do it as well, because obviously if you don’t you’re fucking out”
Kinda sus that he’s personally answering too. Really, 350 enquiries and you’re just the lucky special one who gets personalised messages?
So we’re at the point where the tenants are basically having to bid on rent? Christ…
This is everywhere, we went to a viewing last year and the lady had the ad up for less than 24 hours, she got over 5000 views, 600 emails and when we went to view it there was 25 other people there! This was a very small “2 bed” in cork city, second room was just about big enough for a baby crib and it was €1500/m