It’s the same with music venues that have been there for decades. Do your research properly before you move in.
While yes I’d say most of the time this is an actual arguement.
You do however have those that have completely changed their approach to enable substantially more rowdy behaviour spilling outside or go to install new outside music systems that never existed before. Whether this be change in management or not
I think this part of the nuance is actively missed and skipped over whenever these articles are written. It might not be often but if there is a sudden increase in noise complaints to a specific venue from multiple household perhaps just perhaps the issue is a change the venue has made and is now playing a “everyone else is bad” card.
A once quiet pub where things generally remained inside shifting to actively allowing or promoting outside drinking; music and pushing as much alcohol as possible might as wel now be two vastly different pubs and trying to call back to a past time doesnt quiet work
They’re free to complain to be honest. The council just need to explain to them why they won’t do anything about it.
There’s a guy near us who seemingly bought a house next to a primary school just so he could spend his entire life complaining to the council.
Some people are genuinely beyond help.
There was a pub called The Endurance on Berwick St. Had been there for decades.
They built some flats behind and one woman there constantly complained about the noise and caused problems for the licence holder.
You moved to the middle of Soho. Stfu.
My local pub has always had a big garden and has houses across the street. Someone moved in a couple of years back and is constantly compalining while no one else has had an issue before.
Moral of the story is that if you don’t want to live next to a pub, don’t buy a house next to a pub.
Unless it’s playing super loud music then I think the home owners are being a bit daft.
I know some places really take the piss though, and it’s good that at least the noise complaints are being investigated.
As somebody else said, this isn’t always black and white.
I bought a house 200m from a pub. Did my research beforehand, one night of live music a week on a Saturday, ending by 11pm, seems reasonable.
Sometimes though, they had a live band that was immensely loud and I could hear every lyric while in bed or watching TV. They also made little to no effort to reduce noise levels – doors we propped open and all the windows open in the summer. One Wednesday night in the summer they had louder live music till 3am, because it was the landlords birthday. Great for people who have to be up at 6 for work.
New owners last year, pub is nicer for it, but now we have live music or karaoke till 12am, 2 or 3 times per week, and it is intrusively loud at times.
So by some people’s reckoning I shouldnt complain because “You bought a house near a pub”, but I think there are times when the venue changes from what it once was.
I’ve got two noisy pubs near me and I love it, it’s nice to have a thriving community hub on your doorstep.
Also if you live in a city then surely you’re used to noise?
We’re in a similar situation. Bought a house not far from a pub, viewed said house during latter stages of the lockdown last year. Pub makes noise on occasion, was a bit of a nightmare during the Euros last year.
Wouldn’t cross my mind to get the council to revoke their license though. We are going to sell up soonish, but not because of the pub, lots of other reasons.
Near where I live a whole housing development went up around a speedway track, people subsequently complained about the noise.
Blows my mind that people buy property without doing some research about what they’re getting themselves into. Are there music venues or pubs within earshot? Is this house on a floodplain? What are the crime statistics for this area like? Will there be good public transport links? etc etc
Basic questions everybody should be asking before even considering a purchase
There’s a crazy cow in my town offering money to cut down the old trees that predate her house by decades. The one thing above all we need more of is trees and this witch wants to ‘let in more light’.
Thankfully where I live the council have introduced new laws meaning the onus on providing sound proofing falls on the new buildings, quite a few legendary music venues were unfortunately closed down before any action was taken.
My mum is really involved with the local church. Couple of times a year a newbie will move to the area and complain about the bells. They’re gently reminded they’ve been there 3 months. The bell tower has been on that church since 1835.
The arrogance is actually crazy when you think about it isn’t it?
I live near the Hibs stadium. If I keep submitting noise complaints do you think I could get it closed down? It would really help my property value.
Buy a house near Heathrow, start complaining about the noise. See where that gets you.
Our garden backs onto a pub garden. The worst we get is screaming children and cigarette smoke wafting around. But honestly it’s not that bad. And we quite enjoy the light hubbub it creates in our garden. They play live music on occasion, it’s shit but not disruptive. But we knew we were next to a pub and although it’s not our kind of pub, we knew it’s not particularly rowdy or loud as we know the area
The level of respect has fallen in britain and the level of selfishness continues to rise no matter how muh of a saint you think you are!
I’ve lived near two pubs for 4 years, there’s karaoke every week and they’re reasonable about it, make sure they’re doing their best to keep it down. Perfectly fine.
If they suddenly decided to put live music on outdoors till early hours in the morning I think the residents around here decided to complain it’s fair game.
(I live two streets away, if I can hear the lyrics of songs it’s too loud. Currently can’t even tell they have karaoke nights.) I enjoy live music nights, I enjoy karaoke. But if a venue changes in terms of frequency, the lateness of the hour and volume of sound I think people have every right to complain.
There’s more to life than loud music and drink. Pubs are great but people still have to live near them and we don’t all want to hear it 3-4 times a week.
Moderation and balance are key. A loud night once a week, fair enough. An outdoor music event once a month, also fair enough. Multiple times a week/increase in frequency are grounds for a complaint. Pubs have a license that give them a right to hold certain events. If you move near a pub, expect some noisy nights. On the other hand, people have the right to peaceful enjoyment of property under the First protocol of the human rights act.
The key point is, don’t be a prick about things whichever side you’re on.
We’ve got some silly cunt who comes to our bar and complains about the noise. Unfortunately for him, we’re well within the law when it comes to noise levels so he take a flying fuck at a rolling donut
Would it qualify for a blue plaque as Orwell seems to have immortalised it ?
I live opposite a fairly popular local pub for years and I’ve only complained to them once and that was due to their patrons being knobs. The landlord was very apologetic and got the police out in the end. They have live music every now and then but although I live opposite in a building with no insulation I can’t really hear it. I can hear them do the pub quiz in the summer though which I quite enjoy.
If pubs aren’t acting in accordance with their licence then yes report them, but if you’re moving to a place where there may be live music now or at some point in the future you also need to consider how you’d feel about it and decide accordingly. No need to ruin it for everyone else.
I’ve known of complaints about the noise from the edinburgh botanical garden.
Some people…
My wife used to go to gigs. I’m sure she said one of her favourite venues was closed down because some people moved into some flats a few doors down and complained about the noise (it was not a new thing) to the council.
I used to frequent a bar that had 2 apartments above it. Closing time is 4 am and Fri-Sat are hopping right up until then. For YEARS people would move in then start calling the cops within a month.
Ad take pub music any day over early Sunday Christian service songs
When I was in the RAF we used to get this all the time from people who’d viewed their houses at the weekend when we weren’t flying then got a shock when they moved in. We even had complaints from people who’d bought refurbished married quarters on airfields where large numbers of jobs had been civilianised (you buy a house on an airfield then complain about airfield noise?).
I reserve my contempt for the people who bought new-build houses at the end of the runway of an airfield operating for over 100 years that I visit regularly then immediately started a campaign to get the airfield closed down as the noise of flying was reducing the value of their houses.
What’s with rich people always wanting to be surrounded by silence. Is it because once your are rich you think of yourself above the need to socialize with others of perceived lower class. Amazing how money transforms ppl into cunts.
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It’s the same with music venues that have been there for decades. Do your research properly before you move in.
While yes I’d say most of the time this is an actual arguement.
You do however have those that have completely changed their approach to enable substantially more rowdy behaviour spilling outside or go to install new outside music systems that never existed before. Whether this be change in management or not
I think this part of the nuance is actively missed and skipped over whenever these articles are written. It might not be often but if there is a sudden increase in noise complaints to a specific venue from multiple household perhaps just perhaps the issue is a change the venue has made and is now playing a “everyone else is bad” card.
A once quiet pub where things generally remained inside shifting to actively allowing or promoting outside drinking; music and pushing as much alcohol as possible might as wel now be two vastly different pubs and trying to call back to a past time doesnt quiet work
They’re free to complain to be honest. The council just need to explain to them why they won’t do anything about it.
There’s a guy near us who seemingly bought a house next to a primary school just so he could spend his entire life complaining to the council.
Some people are genuinely beyond help.
There was a pub called The Endurance on Berwick St. Had been there for decades.
They built some flats behind and one woman there constantly complained about the noise and caused problems for the licence holder.
You moved to the middle of Soho. Stfu.
My local pub has always had a big garden and has houses across the street. Someone moved in a couple of years back and is constantly compalining while no one else has had an issue before.
Moral of the story is that if you don’t want to live next to a pub, don’t buy a house next to a pub.
Unless it’s playing super loud music then I think the home owners are being a bit daft.
I know some places really take the piss though, and it’s good that at least the noise complaints are being investigated.
As somebody else said, this isn’t always black and white.
I bought a house 200m from a pub. Did my research beforehand, one night of live music a week on a Saturday, ending by 11pm, seems reasonable.
Sometimes though, they had a live band that was immensely loud and I could hear every lyric while in bed or watching TV. They also made little to no effort to reduce noise levels – doors we propped open and all the windows open in the summer. One Wednesday night in the summer they had louder live music till 3am, because it was the landlords birthday. Great for people who have to be up at 6 for work.
New owners last year, pub is nicer for it, but now we have live music or karaoke till 12am, 2 or 3 times per week, and it is intrusively loud at times.
So by some people’s reckoning I shouldnt complain because “You bought a house near a pub”, but I think there are times when the venue changes from what it once was.
I’ve got two noisy pubs near me and I love it, it’s nice to have a thriving community hub on your doorstep.
Also if you live in a city then surely you’re used to noise?
We’re in a similar situation. Bought a house not far from a pub, viewed said house during latter stages of the lockdown last year. Pub makes noise on occasion, was a bit of a nightmare during the Euros last year.
Wouldn’t cross my mind to get the council to revoke their license though. We are going to sell up soonish, but not because of the pub, lots of other reasons.
Near where I live a whole housing development went up around a speedway track, people subsequently complained about the noise.
Blows my mind that people buy property without doing some research about what they’re getting themselves into. Are there music venues or pubs within earshot? Is this house on a floodplain? What are the crime statistics for this area like? Will there be good public transport links? etc etc
Basic questions everybody should be asking before even considering a purchase
There’s a crazy cow in my town offering money to cut down the old trees that predate her house by decades. The one thing above all we need more of is trees and this witch wants to ‘let in more light’.
Thankfully where I live the council have introduced new laws meaning the onus on providing sound proofing falls on the new buildings, quite a few legendary music venues were unfortunately closed down before any action was taken.
My mum is really involved with the local church. Couple of times a year a newbie will move to the area and complain about the bells. They’re gently reminded they’ve been there 3 months. The bell tower has been on that church since 1835.
The arrogance is actually crazy when you think about it isn’t it?
I live near the Hibs stadium. If I keep submitting noise complaints do you think I could get it closed down? It would really help my property value.
Buy a house near Heathrow, start complaining about the noise. See where that gets you.
Our garden backs onto a pub garden. The worst we get is screaming children and cigarette smoke wafting around. But honestly it’s not that bad. And we quite enjoy the light hubbub it creates in our garden. They play live music on occasion, it’s shit but not disruptive. But we knew we were next to a pub and although it’s not our kind of pub, we knew it’s not particularly rowdy or loud as we know the area
The level of respect has fallen in britain and the level of selfishness continues to rise no matter how muh of a saint you think you are!
I’ve lived near two pubs for 4 years, there’s karaoke every week and they’re reasonable about it, make sure they’re doing their best to keep it down. Perfectly fine.
If they suddenly decided to put live music on outdoors till early hours in the morning I think the residents around here decided to complain it’s fair game.
(I live two streets away, if I can hear the lyrics of songs it’s too loud. Currently can’t even tell they have karaoke nights.) I enjoy live music nights, I enjoy karaoke. But if a venue changes in terms of frequency, the lateness of the hour and volume of sound I think people have every right to complain.
There’s more to life than loud music and drink. Pubs are great but people still have to live near them and we don’t all want to hear it 3-4 times a week.
Moderation and balance are key. A loud night once a week, fair enough. An outdoor music event once a month, also fair enough. Multiple times a week/increase in frequency are grounds for a complaint. Pubs have a license that give them a right to hold certain events. If you move near a pub, expect some noisy nights. On the other hand, people have the right to peaceful enjoyment of property under the First protocol of the human rights act.
The key point is, don’t be a prick about things whichever side you’re on.
We’ve got some silly cunt who comes to our bar and complains about the noise. Unfortunately for him, we’re well within the law when it comes to noise levels so he take a flying fuck at a rolling donut
Would it qualify for a blue plaque as Orwell seems to have immortalised it ?
I live opposite a fairly popular local pub for years and I’ve only complained to them once and that was due to their patrons being knobs. The landlord was very apologetic and got the police out in the end. They have live music every now and then but although I live opposite in a building with no insulation I can’t really hear it. I can hear them do the pub quiz in the summer though which I quite enjoy.
If pubs aren’t acting in accordance with their licence then yes report them, but if you’re moving to a place where there may be live music now or at some point in the future you also need to consider how you’d feel about it and decide accordingly. No need to ruin it for everyone else.
I’ve known of complaints about the noise from the edinburgh botanical garden.
Some people…
My wife used to go to gigs. I’m sure she said one of her favourite venues was closed down because some people moved into some flats a few doors down and complained about the noise (it was not a new thing) to the council.
I used to frequent a bar that had 2 apartments above it. Closing time is 4 am and Fri-Sat are hopping right up until then. For YEARS people would move in then start calling the cops within a month.
Ad take pub music any day over early Sunday Christian service songs
When I was in the RAF we used to get this all the time from people who’d viewed their houses at the weekend when we weren’t flying then got a shock when they moved in. We even had complaints from people who’d bought refurbished married quarters on airfields where large numbers of jobs had been civilianised (you buy a house on an airfield then complain about airfield noise?).
I reserve my contempt for the people who bought new-build houses at the end of the runway of an airfield operating for over 100 years that I visit regularly then immediately started a campaign to get the airfield closed down as the noise of flying was reducing the value of their houses.
What’s with rich people always wanting to be surrounded by silence. Is it because once your are rich you think of yourself above the need to socialize with others of perceived lower class. Amazing how money transforms ppl into cunts.