Given the track record of these cabinet appointments, and specifically hers, who will say what they need to and cover up everything else. This doesn’t bode well for any of the departments that have been allocated
Phew. Because no Tory minister in the last 12 years has ever gone back on their word.
That’s settled then. Because what the Tories have irrefutably demonstrated is that they absolutely never lie.
She’s ‘a democrat’ ?
With relation to UK politics and language usage – what the hell does this mean?
That she advocates or supports democracy? Is she actually publicly stating that she doesn’t support totalitarian or fascist styles of government?
Funnily enough if someone wanted to be stricter with abortion laws in this country they wouldn’t even need to change the law itself.
Just change the approach taken either on regards to making the procedure for two doctors signing off a lot harder I.e. rather than the general by convention of not having to see the patient throw that convention to the wind and update guidance requirements. Wait that’s something the current tories have shown they are happy to do for other areas even making guidance that is contrary to the actual law.
Or use the police to harass doctors and those that have had an abortion by making them actively investigate the legitimatcy of abortions. Remember abortion is still illegal and only decriminalised; instructing police to investiage if it’s not being done illegally or missing steps doesnt change the law. Just a change in policy and convention.
Just two simple ways without a law change.
One way that would require a law change but be able to be done as an amendment, make only specific doctors able to sign off and then a policy change to move all those doctors into one section of the NHS and say one or two clinics for the entire country. Then spin it as “protecting womens health and safety by ensuring centres of excellence and care specific for this stressful time”. All while practically it would become near impossible to see everyone and limit who can be seen.
Abortion is not a right in this county and access can easily be undermined without even making any changes that outlaw it. Especially by a party that has shown they have no care for convention happy to just issue random policies to try and undermine aspects of those country at its core let alone rights of others. Any potential risk to what access exists should be fought against.
If you listen to her words, she was quite cunning with what she said. I don’t remember it word for word but it was something about how she’s Health Secretary for England and people can have abortion anywhere in tbe UK. I do not trust owt she said. She is a vile woman.
I can’t believe she’s Health secretary – she’s so unhealthy looking.
Where’s this coming from? There’s not even any debate about abortion in the UK
Stupid story
Let’s not succumb to hysteria. Anti-choice isn’t a pillar of the conservative political platform like it is in the US. The religious right doesn’t have the same kind of king making capacity it has in the US. Of course we need to be vigilant but let’s not lose our minds.
In other words, “I would like to try, but I keep failing”.
She has a history of repeatedly voting to restrict abortion rights. That’s obviously not the behaviour of someone who won’t change abortion laws because of democracy, that’s the behaviour of someone who is trying to change abortion laws but is being thwarted by democracy.
The fact that someone who has repeatedly tried to restrict healthcare on spurious moral grounds has been made the Health Minister is absolutely abhorrent.
No, no, no, please do try to change it, please make it clearer that you are crap.
Say one thing do the other
Taking aside everything politically awful about her.
Why does she always dress like someone’s Nan you expect to see pulling a wheely trolley behind them and going the local caf for a sandwich?
She’s the deputy PM and I’ve never once seen her dress appropriately for her position (I know it’s only been a day, but she never dressed appropriately when she was pensions secretary).
Yeah. She is going to do it. Just not so fucking public
A women who finished having reproductive cycles decades ago should have no say in this.
I don’t trust a word of what she says.
Given her history on voting when it comes to this, she’s lying through her teeth.
Expect attempts to either change the laws or otherwise make abortion de facto far harder to access within the next 6-12 months then
A democrat? um… we dont have those in the uk. Does she mean she is left leaning? if so, she is in the wrong party.
Fucking try banning it and find out. Literal political suicide and the end of them.
How is that monster a health Secretary? It’s bordering on comical.
No she won’t change the laws, but make it possible for Parliament to change it.
I’ll just leave this here as you might want to see just how she could restrict access to these things. It passed but she was one of those voting against
Abortion is considered a conscience issue in parliamentary votes like the death penalty – any votes on it are not whipped.
She looks healthy.
Back to America you go, bring all the rest of your backwards pals with you!
what a deluded thing to say. She doesn’t have the power to change the law and it would never get through parliament if she tried.
State of that ankle in the thumbnail. She is rancid
People really believe one minister can change the law, it requires a vote in parliament which would never happen. Grow up and learn how laws are made and repealed.
She’s a democrat, but is right-wing?
Sadly I have a clearer idea what a demogorgon is than a democrat.
The worst and most nonsensical appointment Truss made so far.
This woman is quite frankly poisonous and has no business being anywhere near welfare state, much less in a 21st century cabinet. I’m actually alarmed that she’s been given the station of Deputy PM.
She’s done untold harm to the lives (and in some cases deaths) of disabled people, and her 18th century views about abortion, sexuality etc do NOT represent the British people at large, so why is she here? WHY???
It’s so weird how those on the left are desperately trying to make this an issue.
The Tories are not religiously ideologically driven, abortion simply isn’t a major political issue. One politician can’t just ‘change the law’.
You’re all trying to convince yourselves that ‘oh god they’re just like the republicans!’.
Stop consuming so much American news and trying to apply it to the UK. Nobody is seriously trying to take abortion away in the UK.
Yes let’s put this picture of health and wellness in charge of the NHS. Doctors and nurses don’t need higher pay, they need harsh treatment and to be put under as much pressure as possible. Infact if doctors don’t complete a mandatory 65 hour work week they will be sanctioned and lose 1 months wages.
A morbidly obese health secretary, you couldn’t make it up.
No she’s an idiot. Being a democrat is an insult for a British politician.
Of course? I feel like this is just stating the obvious. It would be deeply unpopular
Conservatives are basically progressives at this point 😅 pathetic
More Tory cat?
This will never happen – the religiosity among white Britons just isn’t there…
You could probably get more Muslim votes that way though
This sounds like smth those Supreme Court justices appointed by Trump in the US said.
Next time shell just claim that as a democrat she must listen to the will of the populace that she thinks would be anti-abortion
The desire doesn’t exist on a wide scale in this country. Bit of a non story really because not even the Tory party support that.
She is also a liar
Democrats don’t fight to scrap human rights…
It seems every Tory is issued with a dead cat these days. There is no groundswell wanting abortion laws changed. There are a narrow group of authoritarian moralists who have wanted no abortion since Vera Drake. But, throw out the dead cat and have people furiously take a side – because you *must* take a side, but *see* all sides – and suddenly nobody is talking about what a grifter that Tory actually is. When people do point at the grift and not the dead cat, then, suddenly, the dead cat becomes policy. Like returning to the imperial weights and measures. That sort of thing.
She won’t change abortion laws until she gets called out for her, particular, grift.
She’ll do anything to make people suffer the disgusting ogre
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Why does this not make me feel any better.
Given the track record of these cabinet appointments, and specifically hers, who will say what they need to and cover up everything else. This doesn’t bode well for any of the departments that have been allocated
Phew. Because no Tory minister in the last 12 years has ever gone back on their word.
That’s settled then. Because what the Tories have irrefutably demonstrated is that they absolutely never lie.
She’s ‘a democrat’ ?
With relation to UK politics and language usage – what the hell does this mean?
That she advocates or supports democracy? Is she actually publicly stating that she doesn’t support totalitarian or fascist styles of government?
Funnily enough if someone wanted to be stricter with abortion laws in this country they wouldn’t even need to change the law itself.
Just change the approach taken either on regards to making the procedure for two doctors signing off a lot harder I.e. rather than the general by convention of not having to see the patient throw that convention to the wind and update guidance requirements. Wait that’s something the current tories have shown they are happy to do for other areas even making guidance that is contrary to the actual law.
Or use the police to harass doctors and those that have had an abortion by making them actively investigate the legitimatcy of abortions. Remember abortion is still illegal and only decriminalised; instructing police to investiage if it’s not being done illegally or missing steps doesnt change the law. Just a change in policy and convention.
Just two simple ways without a law change.
One way that would require a law change but be able to be done as an amendment, make only specific doctors able to sign off and then a policy change to move all those doctors into one section of the NHS and say one or two clinics for the entire country. Then spin it as “protecting womens health and safety by ensuring centres of excellence and care specific for this stressful time”. All while practically it would become near impossible to see everyone and limit who can be seen.
Abortion is not a right in this county and access can easily be undermined without even making any changes that outlaw it. Especially by a party that has shown they have no care for convention happy to just issue random policies to try and undermine aspects of those country at its core let alone rights of others. Any potential risk to what access exists should be fought against.
If you listen to her words, she was quite cunning with what she said. I don’t remember it word for word but it was something about how she’s Health Secretary for England and people can have abortion anywhere in tbe UK. I do not trust owt she said. She is a vile woman.
I can’t believe she’s Health secretary – she’s so unhealthy looking.
Where’s this coming from? There’s not even any debate about abortion in the UK
Stupid story
Let’s not succumb to hysteria. Anti-choice isn’t a pillar of the conservative political platform like it is in the US. The religious right doesn’t have the same kind of king making capacity it has in the US. Of course we need to be vigilant but let’s not lose our minds.
In other words, “I would like to try, but I keep failing”.
She has a history of repeatedly voting to restrict abortion rights. That’s obviously not the behaviour of someone who won’t change abortion laws because of democracy, that’s the behaviour of someone who is trying to change abortion laws but is being thwarted by democracy.
The fact that someone who has repeatedly tried to restrict healthcare on spurious moral grounds has been made the Health Minister is absolutely abhorrent.
No, no, no, please do try to change it, please make it clearer that you are crap.
Say one thing do the other
Taking aside everything politically awful about her.
Why does she always dress like someone’s Nan you expect to see pulling a wheely trolley behind them and going the local caf for a sandwich?
She’s the deputy PM and I’ve never once seen her dress appropriately for her position (I know it’s only been a day, but she never dressed appropriately when she was pensions secretary).
Yeah. She is going to do it. Just not so fucking public
A women who finished having reproductive cycles decades ago should have no say in this.
I don’t trust a word of what she says.
Given her history on voting when it comes to this, she’s lying through her teeth.
Expect attempts to either change the laws or otherwise make abortion de facto far harder to access within the next 6-12 months then
A democrat? um… we dont have those in the uk. Does she mean she is left leaning? if so, she is in the wrong party.
Fucking try banning it and find out. Literal political suicide and the end of them.
How is that monster a health Secretary? It’s bordering on comical.
No she won’t change the laws, but make it possible for Parliament to change it.
I’ll just leave this here as you might want to see just how she could restrict access to these things. It passed but she was one of those voting against
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/abortions-telemedicine-vote-commons-b2047496.html?amp
Abortion is considered a conscience issue in parliamentary votes like the death penalty – any votes on it are not whipped.
She looks healthy.
Back to America you go, bring all the rest of your backwards pals with you!
what a deluded thing to say. She doesn’t have the power to change the law and it would never get through parliament if she tried.
State of that ankle in the thumbnail. She is rancid
People really believe one minister can change the law, it requires a vote in parliament which would never happen. Grow up and learn how laws are made and repealed.
She’s a democrat, but is right-wing?
Sadly I have a clearer idea what a demogorgon is than a democrat.
The worst and most nonsensical appointment Truss made so far.
This woman is quite frankly poisonous and has no business being anywhere near welfare state, much less in a 21st century cabinet. I’m actually alarmed that she’s been given the station of Deputy PM.
She’s done untold harm to the lives (and in some cases deaths) of disabled people, and her 18th century views about abortion, sexuality etc do NOT represent the British people at large, so why is she here? WHY???
Some of her wondrous acts – a sorry 10 pages worth: [https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/?s=coffey](https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/?s=coffey)
It’s so weird how those on the left are desperately trying to make this an issue.
The Tories are not religiously ideologically driven, abortion simply isn’t a major political issue. One politician can’t just ‘change the law’.
You’re all trying to convince yourselves that ‘oh god they’re just like the republicans!’.
Stop consuming so much American news and trying to apply it to the UK. Nobody is seriously trying to take abortion away in the UK.
Yes let’s put this picture of health and wellness in charge of the NHS. Doctors and nurses don’t need higher pay, they need harsh treatment and to be put under as much pressure as possible. Infact if doctors don’t complete a mandatory 65 hour work week they will be sanctioned and lose 1 months wages.
A morbidly obese health secretary, you couldn’t make it up.
No she’s an idiot. Being a democrat is an insult for a British politician.
Of course? I feel like this is just stating the obvious. It would be deeply unpopular
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She’s the secretary of pies. Not health.
Conservatives are basically progressives at this point 😅 pathetic
More Tory cat?
This will never happen – the religiosity among white Britons just isn’t there…
You could probably get more Muslim votes that way though
This sounds like smth those Supreme Court justices appointed by Trump in the US said.
Next time shell just claim that as a democrat she must listen to the will of the populace that she thinks would be anti-abortion
The desire doesn’t exist on a wide scale in this country. Bit of a non story really because not even the Tory party support that.
She is also a liar
Democrats don’t fight to scrap human rights…
It seems every Tory is issued with a dead cat these days. There is no groundswell wanting abortion laws changed. There are a narrow group of authoritarian moralists who have wanted no abortion since Vera Drake. But, throw out the dead cat and have people furiously take a side – because you *must* take a side, but *see* all sides – and suddenly nobody is talking about what a grifter that Tory actually is. When people do point at the grift and not the dead cat, then, suddenly, the dead cat becomes policy. Like returning to the imperial weights and measures. That sort of thing.
She won’t change abortion laws until she gets called out for her, particular, grift.
She’ll do anything to make people suffer the disgusting ogre