Given the amount of money they have made and are still making, I don’t think they will be seeing it as a failure.
Failed? There’s a new one in Number 10 now.
I don’t know why he thinks getting brexit done was hit for boris. The country is totally fucked.
The populist movements in the West are unstable because they’re made up of a loose band of contrarians.
And the problem with contrarians is that they will oppose everything by default. They’re naturally prone to turning on each other. They kept it together for a year or two while they were focussed on brining down their opponents, but as soon as they’re in power, they turned on themselves.
Look at Dominic Cummings – an architect of Brexit who couldn’t make it more than a year without self-destructing and turning his contrarian focus to his old allies.
Much more stark is the US, where Trump, Pence and Bannon are now bitterly trying to sabotage each other. Trump even left Pence to actually die at the hands of the Capital Insurrection.
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I see the same thing in individuals as well – the arseholes that criticise and oppose everything at work, for example. Put them in charge and they’re entirely unable to put their money where their mouth is – their pomposity bursts, and they quickly shatter into ineptitude.
Because populism ain’t about solving issues. It’s about pointing them out and saying you have solutions. When trouble comes they soon lose their ability to do anything but mouth off and again place blame.
Vote for a clown and you get a circus, that’s why they failed.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong solutions.
– Ernest Benn
They’re still in power and poised to make things worse to fatten their wallets, how have they failed?
I wouldn’t really call 12 years of political supremacy, unknown millions handed out to friends, donors, and family members, separating the UK from EU oversight, or cementing lasting, damaging, ideological changes to the British framework “losing”.
Labour will likely win the next election, manage to reverse some fraction of the damage, and then we’ll be right back where we are in another decade or so.
“Why the populists failed”
Macron’s still doing alright, isn’t he? Not to mention the Italian right/far right and any number of Eastern European populists, solidly in power.
Why did Johnson and Trump fail?
Because they’re lazy, ill-disciplined grifters, more interested in the perks and status of the job than doing anything with it.
I mean historically speaking it often does. Their are occasionally cases were it actually works. But building a functioning goverment means putting people in charge who know how the system functions and how to fix the problems (the trouble is they often become part of the system and its problems).
Whereas populism usually appeals to a more base side of the human nature of tear it down and build it back up. And in real life that’s actually seriously hard to pull off.
What’s popular now won’t be next year, seasons change , style changes, its the pitfall of being a popular populists poephol.
Boris the schoolyard trend.
Have they ? Be careful with that
Just to be clear, left wing populism gets us things like weekends, workplace safety and rights, parental leave, etc. The responsibility for Britain’s woes lie solely on the shoulders of right wing populists, whose whole schtick is ironically identitarian fearmongering and scapegoating.
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Given the amount of money they have made and are still making, I don’t think they will be seeing it as a failure.
Failed? There’s a new one in Number 10 now.
I don’t know why he thinks getting brexit done was hit for boris. The country is totally fucked.
The populist movements in the West are unstable because they’re made up of a loose band of contrarians.
And the problem with contrarians is that they will oppose everything by default. They’re naturally prone to turning on each other. They kept it together for a year or two while they were focussed on brining down their opponents, but as soon as they’re in power, they turned on themselves.
Look at Dominic Cummings – an architect of Brexit who couldn’t make it more than a year without self-destructing and turning his contrarian focus to his old allies.
Much more stark is the US, where Trump, Pence and Bannon are now bitterly trying to sabotage each other. Trump even left Pence to actually die at the hands of the Capital Insurrection.
​
I see the same thing in individuals as well – the arseholes that criticise and oppose everything at work, for example. Put them in charge and they’re entirely unable to put their money where their mouth is – their pomposity bursts, and they quickly shatter into ineptitude.
Because populism ain’t about solving issues. It’s about pointing them out and saying you have solutions. When trouble comes they soon lose their ability to do anything but mouth off and again place blame.
Vote for a clown and you get a circus, that’s why they failed.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong solutions.
– Ernest Benn
They’re still in power and poised to make things worse to fatten their wallets, how have they failed?
I wouldn’t really call 12 years of political supremacy, unknown millions handed out to friends, donors, and family members, separating the UK from EU oversight, or cementing lasting, damaging, ideological changes to the British framework “losing”.
Labour will likely win the next election, manage to reverse some fraction of the damage, and then we’ll be right back where we are in another decade or so.
“Why the populists failed”
Macron’s still doing alright, isn’t he? Not to mention the Italian right/far right and any number of Eastern European populists, solidly in power.
Why did Johnson and Trump fail?
Because they’re lazy, ill-disciplined grifters, more interested in the perks and status of the job than doing anything with it.
I mean historically speaking it often does. Their are occasionally cases were it actually works. But building a functioning goverment means putting people in charge who know how the system functions and how to fix the problems (the trouble is they often become part of the system and its problems).
Whereas populism usually appeals to a more base side of the human nature of tear it down and build it back up. And in real life that’s actually seriously hard to pull off.
What’s popular now won’t be next year, seasons change , style changes, its the pitfall of being a popular populists poephol.
Boris the schoolyard trend.
Have they ? Be careful with that
Just to be clear, left wing populism gets us things like weekends, workplace safety and rights, parental leave, etc. The responsibility for Britain’s woes lie solely on the shoulders of right wing populists, whose whole schtick is ironically identitarian fearmongering and scapegoating.