Genuinely don’t understand this article. The article says they can’t speak English, if they can’t speak English, how on earth will they be able to do the course? Or use the degree to get a job after?
Refugees losing hope?! The citizens of this country are losing hope too.
Not being able to speak english is not a barrier set by anyone. Even if the uni let you in, you wouldn’t learn a thing since everything is taught in english
Well, what did they expect? They’re functionally illiterate being unable to speak, read or write English. If they were genuine refugees, they’d be grateful just for the safety and security of a stable country but they’re not, are they? They’re predominantly economic refugees who had some delusional, uninformed dream of making it big somewhere that was richer than their home country. Have they got 1.5 Million pounds on hand to buy a house? No? Then they’ll be renters for life. It’s already hard for the poor in Britain who are natives. Sorry, not sorry, their grand scheme didn’t work.
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I’ve lived in various parts of the country, attended courses at adult education / community colleges, and all of them provide English GCSE, Maths GCSE, basic maths and ESOL courses. Even the smallest community college I attended before lockdown had ESOL classes daily.
The emphasis in community colleges seems to be provision of English and Maths courses, but different levels of IT courses were few and far between. If you want to update your IT skills/gain a qualification you might have to travel far afield and/or attend at inconvenient times.
Years ago there was a greater range of subjects you could study at adult education centres, either for a qualification (GCSE/ A level, vocational) or for fun. Due to austerity cutbacks there are fewer choices for, say, adults who dropped out of school at sixteen, but want to better themselves with education as an adult. But Maths and English courses are always available.
It’s a bit baffling that someone would think they are ready to attend university in the UK without GCSE English. The time committment to studying GCSE English is much less than studying a subject at degree level.
There are lots of reasons that people might have delays in acquiring the minimum qualifications to attend college, such as young carers who miss out on education due to caring for relatives.
If they can’t speak english what did they expect by coming here?
I mean one of the problems here is the whole idea that higher education should be key to somebody’s future. Somebody’s inability to go to uni shouldn’t make them any less hopeful for their future
If they can’t figure out enrollment or learn English then they shouldn’t be given a place at a UK university.
Join the club. A step closer to being British once you lose hope for the future
Whilst I feel for the chap in the article he is from his own admission at a ten year olds level in mathematics and illiterate in English. He says himself that in a GCSE class everything went over his head so what on earth does he think he’s gonna get from a degree? The people at the charity should have the wherewithal to point him to a more suitable course.
And let’s be honest if you can’t work out the application process to university, should you be going to university? With that said for a lot of modern unis all you need is a heartbeat to get a 2:2.
good. they can stay in the first safe country they hit. not cross all of europe to come here
I taught a semester at a post graduate university a few years back and one guy could barely read, speak or understand English. As he was international it cost him about £30k per annum and I’m very sure he cheated the English exam they give prior to allowing the application.. even his keyboard he brought in daily wasn’t in English so I couldn’t help him with work as much. What’s interesting is that his goal was this particular career path which was client facing, outgoing, required alot of luck and skill to aquire and he didn’t talk much and just played league of legends everyday..
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refugees or ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?
So? We don’t want losers coming here.
Genuinely don’t understand this article. The article says they can’t speak English, if they can’t speak English, how on earth will they be able to do the course? Or use the degree to get a job after?
Refugees losing hope?! The citizens of this country are losing hope too.
Not being able to speak english is not a barrier set by anyone. Even if the uni let you in, you wouldn’t learn a thing since everything is taught in english
Well, what did they expect? They’re functionally illiterate being unable to speak, read or write English. If they were genuine refugees, they’d be grateful just for the safety and security of a stable country but they’re not, are they? They’re predominantly economic refugees who had some delusional, uninformed dream of making it big somewhere that was richer than their home country. Have they got 1.5 Million pounds on hand to buy a house? No? Then they’ll be renters for life. It’s already hard for the poor in Britain who are natives. Sorry, not sorry, their grand scheme didn’t work.
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I’ve lived in various parts of the country, attended courses at adult education / community colleges, and all of them provide English GCSE, Maths GCSE, basic maths and ESOL courses. Even the smallest community college I attended before lockdown had ESOL classes daily.
The emphasis in community colleges seems to be provision of English and Maths courses, but different levels of IT courses were few and far between. If you want to update your IT skills/gain a qualification you might have to travel far afield and/or attend at inconvenient times.
Years ago there was a greater range of subjects you could study at adult education centres, either for a qualification (GCSE/ A level, vocational) or for fun. Due to austerity cutbacks there are fewer choices for, say, adults who dropped out of school at sixteen, but want to better themselves with education as an adult. But Maths and English courses are always available.
It’s a bit baffling that someone would think they are ready to attend university in the UK without GCSE English. The time committment to studying GCSE English is much less than studying a subject at degree level.
There are lots of reasons that people might have delays in acquiring the minimum qualifications to attend college, such as young carers who miss out on education due to caring for relatives.
If they can’t speak english what did they expect by coming here?
I mean one of the problems here is the whole idea that higher education should be key to somebody’s future. Somebody’s inability to go to uni shouldn’t make them any less hopeful for their future
If they can’t figure out enrollment or learn English then they shouldn’t be given a place at a UK university.
Join the club. A step closer to being British once you lose hope for the future
Whilst I feel for the chap in the article he is from his own admission at a ten year olds level in mathematics and illiterate in English. He says himself that in a GCSE class everything went over his head so what on earth does he think he’s gonna get from a degree? The people at the charity should have the wherewithal to point him to a more suitable course.
And let’s be honest if you can’t work out the application process to university, should you be going to university? With that said for a lot of modern unis all you need is a heartbeat to get a 2:2.
good. they can stay in the first safe country they hit. not cross all of europe to come here
I taught a semester at a post graduate university a few years back and one guy could barely read, speak or understand English. As he was international it cost him about £30k per annum and I’m very sure he cheated the English exam they give prior to allowing the application.. even his keyboard he brought in daily wasn’t in English so I couldn’t help him with work as much. What’s interesting is that his goal was this particular career path which was client facing, outgoing, required alot of luck and skill to aquire and he didn’t talk much and just played league of legends everyday..