Done “in the spirit of respect”, cool ok then in that spirit can we do something about abortion protests?
I’ve come to terms with Keir’s strategy. I’m not a fan of it but I get what he’s up to.
In Britain we’ve got quite a few people who are left-wing economically, but right-wing socially. These people love Queen and Country, they also want the government to spend liberally on health and pensions as well as guarantee them a job and prop-up workers rights.
The logic goes that these people abandoned Corbyn for the Tories. Keir is going hard on the Queen and Country aspect to win them back.
**edit** Jesus, how did this become my most up-voted thing ever?
Yeah got to say a funeral isn’t really the right time, it comes across as childish and nasty, rather than something that would spur on any republican movement. You want to get of Charles so protest that and events he goes to as King. Not the dead one’s funeral.
It’s more he’s trying to win an election and not wanting to piss off a lot of voters to appease a few.
Perhaps then the mourners can ‘respect’ free speech and not be supporting the arrests of people holding up signs then..
Anyone questioning this tactic – take a look at the numbers of people who support the monarchy, and the breakdown of people who support it.
The general public supports the monarchy more than they actively dislike it, even in younger age groups. In older age groups it’s a huge disparity in favour of the monarchy, and they are also far more likely to vote.
You simply cannot win an election in this country by egging on anti-monarchy protesters at this moment in time.
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Too many people think they are the superstar in everybody else’s life story. They completely fail to read the room, or street in some cases, through hubris or some kind of social disconnection. Now is not the time, no matter how righteous you think your position is.
If you think your shouted outbursts are of greater consequence than the death of the second longest reigning monarch ever, a literal era defining moment in history, then you really have got an ego problem. What’s going to happen? Is everybody there going to say “Oh, that guy is right, we should all go home”?
Indeed. The funeral of Elizabeth II is not the time to protest the monarchy as that is disrespecting the dead at a time of great personal sorrow for her family. Many royalists, especially the older generations who are also much more likely to vote, have taken it quite hard too.
To protest it now will only shore up their support and will push people over to the Conservatives. Support for the last Queen is high, she was popular with a lot of the population, even those who are not what I have seen on this subreddit being called “flagshaggers”.
I think the coronation of Charles III is fair game, however. The protestors can have their moment then.
It’s just common decency. They’ve had forever to protest her. Chill the f out for a few days.
Not a big Keir fan but can’t really argue here
Hassling people mourning/at a funeral regardless of whether its direct family or not is tacky at best
After that, protest the monarchy till you’re blue in the face, seems fine to me
I didn’t realise having respect for mourners and the dead was a political choice, but the comments here are so enlightening…
Lots of people in here advising that now is not the time for republicans to voice their opinions. Please could you advise when the appropriate time is so we can protest this backwards tradition and subsequently be ignored by the news and media?
Tell them not to hold a public funeral then. The thing about making something public, that a lot of people don’t seem to understand, is that it is open to the entire public
I cannot stand Starmer but have no choice but to vote for his brand of whatever it is he’s doing.
And yet people on here seem to think that’s a bad thing
It’s right. Anyone being disrespectful to those mourning are utter cunts.
Agree with the monarchy or not, show some fucking class.
The point of protesting very often is to get arrested to generate publicity for your cause.
He also said people have the right to protest but the headline missed that.
“ruin their moment”???
Have they all been waiting their whole lives for the queen to die just for this moment?
Fucking vultures the lot of them.
Tail between their legs and their lip shaking.
I mean, he has a point. People chanting against the monarchy should have the right to make that point without being arrested. But doing it when and where people are mourning is a dick move.
Don’t know why people can’t just be civil and not twats to each other for a week or two until the old girl is laid to rest. Why does everyone feel they’ve got to make such a point?
It’s a shocking state of affairs when we have people in the comments actively defending shouting obscenities and attempting to throw eggs AT A FUNERAL!
Is this really what we have become? Shame on you all.
Protesting at a funeral is shitty but using that to gain support is also very shitty
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Done “in the spirit of respect”, cool ok then in that spirit can we do something about abortion protests?
I’ve come to terms with Keir’s strategy. I’m not a fan of it but I get what he’s up to.
In Britain we’ve got quite a few people who are left-wing economically, but right-wing socially. These people love Queen and Country, they also want the government to spend liberally on health and pensions as well as guarantee them a job and prop-up workers rights.
The logic goes that these people abandoned Corbyn for the Tories. Keir is going hard on the Queen and Country aspect to win them back.
**edit** Jesus, how did this become my most up-voted thing ever?
Yeah got to say a funeral isn’t really the right time, it comes across as childish and nasty, rather than something that would spur on any republican movement. You want to get of Charles so protest that and events he goes to as King. Not the dead one’s funeral.
It’s more he’s trying to win an election and not wanting to piss off a lot of voters to appease a few.
Perhaps then the mourners can ‘respect’ free speech and not be supporting the arrests of people holding up signs then..
Anyone questioning this tactic – take a look at the numbers of people who support the monarchy, and the breakdown of people who support it.
The general public supports the monarchy more than they actively dislike it, even in younger age groups. In older age groups it’s a huge disparity in favour of the monarchy, and they are also far more likely to vote.
You simply cannot win an election in this country by egging on anti-monarchy protesters at this moment in time.
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Too many people think they are the superstar in everybody else’s life story. They completely fail to read the room, or street in some cases, through hubris or some kind of social disconnection. Now is not the time, no matter how righteous you think your position is.
If you think your shouted outbursts are of greater consequence than the death of the second longest reigning monarch ever, a literal era defining moment in history, then you really have got an ego problem. What’s going to happen? Is everybody there going to say “Oh, that guy is right, we should all go home”?
Indeed. The funeral of Elizabeth II is not the time to protest the monarchy as that is disrespecting the dead at a time of great personal sorrow for her family. Many royalists, especially the older generations who are also much more likely to vote, have taken it quite hard too.
To protest it now will only shore up their support and will push people over to the Conservatives. Support for the last Queen is high, she was popular with a lot of the population, even those who are not what I have seen on this subreddit being called “flagshaggers”.
I think the coronation of Charles III is fair game, however. The protestors can have their moment then.
It’s just common decency. They’ve had forever to protest her. Chill the f out for a few days.
Not a big Keir fan but can’t really argue here
Hassling people mourning/at a funeral regardless of whether its direct family or not is tacky at best
After that, protest the monarchy till you’re blue in the face, seems fine to me
I didn’t realise having respect for mourners and the dead was a political choice, but the comments here are so enlightening…
Lots of people in here advising that now is not the time for republicans to voice their opinions. Please could you advise when the appropriate time is so we can protest this backwards tradition and subsequently be ignored by the news and media?
Tell them not to hold a public funeral then. The thing about making something public, that a lot of people don’t seem to understand, is that it is open to the entire public
I cannot stand Starmer but have no choice but to vote for his brand of whatever it is he’s doing.
And yet people on here seem to think that’s a bad thing
It’s right. Anyone being disrespectful to those mourning are utter cunts.
Agree with the monarchy or not, show some fucking class.
The point of protesting very often is to get arrested to generate publicity for your cause.
He also said people have the right to protest but the headline missed that.
“ruin their moment”???
Have they all been waiting their whole lives for the queen to die just for this moment?
Fucking vultures the lot of them.
Tail between their legs and their lip shaking.
I mean, he has a point. People chanting against the monarchy should have the right to make that point without being arrested. But doing it when and where people are mourning is a dick move.
Don’t know why people can’t just be civil and not twats to each other for a week or two until the old girl is laid to rest. Why does everyone feel they’ve got to make such a point?
It’s a shocking state of affairs when we have people in the comments actively defending shouting obscenities and attempting to throw eggs AT A FUNERAL!
Is this really what we have become? Shame on you all.
Protesting at a funeral is shitty but using that to gain support is also very shitty