There’s a trend on twitter of diagnosing shit irish do they don’t like “generational trauma”. I’ve seen it a lot with how we are compliant (I guess compared to the UK) with covid measures. It’s fuckin weird.
Good links to information in another post here rather than knee jerk dismissiveness. Trauma takes many forms and children of PTSD sufferers will have their stories for you. If you’re interested.
Generational trauma is real and can even cause epigenetic changes for a few generations after a mass traumatic event like a famine.
I’d well believe it. I hate people from Cavan because my grandpa gave one a plate of corn muffins in 1947 to paint his chicken coop and he never did it.
Without having ever read a history book, you can travel around the former Yugoslavia and conclude that there was probably a war quite recently. Likewise, if you were to travel around parts of Eastern Europe with no knowledge of recent 20th century history, you wouldn’t really be surprised if the locals told you that their grandparent were born soon after a large war was concluded.
If a tourist was to arrive here today from say Turkey, there would be absolutely nothing to suggest that this extremely prosperous little country experienced a famine 176 years ago
Hold on a second, this lad might be on to something here.
I think… yes, I definitely think I feel this interwhatchmacallit trauma too. Ah Jesus even the sight of a potato has me triggered to bits.
Would there be any case for monetary reperations? It might bring some small comfort to us during all this terrible terrible trauma Joe.
Should I start practicing my compo face for the papers?
Isn’t intergenerational trauma borne at the level of the culture (i.e., collectively) rather than the individual?
I’m guessing this is from an Irish guy living abroad most likely America
Tell them your ancestor have already paid .
Ask if you can collect for that
i cry when i see over-cooked roast potatoes
Sounds like the L. Ron Hubbard school of psychology.
Generational sounds shit but I do think that there is such a thing as cultural trauma. Like we do remember things collectively.
The term ‘potatoe famine’ makes me angry, it kind of implies a sort of mockery. It’s called The Great Famine, grow up.
The fact he disagrees with his therapist is due to his internalised oppression.
Plot twist: it was a court mandated therapist after he tried to burn down the british consulate in New York.
And to be fair, Irish-Americans didn’t get to attend the *’Qualifying for the Quarter Finals of the 1990 World Cup’ Group Session*. Or at least, that’s what I was lead to believe happened in the 90s.
These sorts of people will blame anything else in the world for their problems before they look at themselves.
I had an English therapist put “Irish” and “born in the 80’s” together, and ask if I was badly impacted by The Troubles.
Bitch, I’m from Dublin
Where do I sign up for the cheque?
Yeah, lack of consumption of taytos will do that to you.
I have a suspicion that young boinkdoinks up there might get his jollies from riding poor, defenseless clowns.
‘…the hypothesis that an individual’s experience might alter the cells and behavior of their children and grandchildren has become widely accepted.’
I’m no psychologist, so I’ll leave the discussion about how possible it is to have intergenerational trauma from the famine to the experts. One thing that did spring to mind was the fact that Irish home ownership rates are far higher than comparable countries and some say that it’s down to the fact that we weren’t able to own our own homes/land for centuries.
Think it’s called genetic memory
My friend claimed to have inter generational chlamydia. At least that’s what He told his partner when she confronted him. Claims his ancestors got it from eating infected potatoes. He’s single now.
Hon, release that therapist.
150 year old trauma is gone now.
Be thankful it wasn’t something a priest did to your dad….or mom.
Use your own imagination.
The most conclusive evidence of epigenetic effects due to a “traumatic” event stem from the Dutch famine during WW2.
Here, a gene involved in metabolism has far less methylation (so is less suppressed) in individuals who were prenatally exposed to the famine than those who weren’t.
Beyond parental diet and environment, the evidence for inter-generational trauma, as it pertains to mental illness or traumatic events experienced by ancestors is far, far more tenuous.
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Addicted to the chipper we call that.
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Would this mean Anorexia or Bulimia?
There’s a trend on twitter of diagnosing shit irish do they don’t like “generational trauma”. I’ve seen it a lot with how we are compliant (I guess compared to the UK) with covid measures. It’s fuckin weird.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenerational_trauma
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/Understanding_Intergenerational_Trauma
Generational trauma from that fucking haircut.
Good links to information in another post here rather than knee jerk dismissiveness. Trauma takes many forms and children of PTSD sufferers will have their stories for you. If you’re interested.
Generational trauma is real and can even cause epigenetic changes for a few generations after a mass traumatic event like a famine.
I’d well believe it. I hate people from Cavan because my grandpa gave one a plate of corn muffins in 1947 to paint his chicken coop and he never did it.
Without having ever read a history book, you can travel around the former Yugoslavia and conclude that there was probably a war quite recently. Likewise, if you were to travel around parts of Eastern Europe with no knowledge of recent 20th century history, you wouldn’t really be surprised if the locals told you that their grandparent were born soon after a large war was concluded.
If a tourist was to arrive here today from say Turkey, there would be absolutely nothing to suggest that this extremely prosperous little country experienced a famine 176 years ago
Hold on a second, this lad might be on to something here.
I think… yes, I definitely think I feel this interwhatchmacallit trauma too. Ah Jesus even the sight of a potato has me triggered to bits.
Would there be any case for monetary reperations? It might bring some small comfort to us during all this terrible terrible trauma Joe.
Should I start practicing my compo face for the papers?
Isn’t intergenerational trauma borne at the level of the culture (i.e., collectively) rather than the individual?
I’m guessing this is from an Irish guy living abroad most likely America
Tell them your ancestor have already paid .
Ask if you can collect for that
i cry when i see over-cooked roast potatoes
Sounds like the L. Ron Hubbard school of psychology.
Generational sounds shit but I do think that there is such a thing as cultural trauma. Like we do remember things collectively.
The term ‘potatoe famine’ makes me angry, it kind of implies a sort of mockery. It’s called The Great Famine, grow up.
The fact he disagrees with his therapist is due to his internalised oppression.
Plot twist: it was a court mandated therapist after he tried to burn down the british consulate in New York.
And to be fair, Irish-Americans didn’t get to attend the *’Qualifying for the Quarter Finals of the 1990 World Cup’ Group Session*. Or at least, that’s what I was lead to believe happened in the 90s.
These sorts of people will blame anything else in the world for their problems before they look at themselves.
I had an English therapist put “Irish” and “born in the 80’s” together, and ask if I was badly impacted by The Troubles.
Bitch, I’m from Dublin
Where do I sign up for the cheque?
Yeah, lack of consumption of taytos will do that to you.
I have a suspicion that young boinkdoinks up there might get his jollies from riding poor, defenseless clowns.
There’s [growing science](https://www.science.org/content/article/parents-emotional-trauma-may-change-their-children-s-biology-studies-mice-show-how) that individuals who experience severe trauma can pass on genetic changes to their children and further generations:
‘…the hypothesis that an individual’s experience might alter the cells and behavior of their children and grandchildren has become widely accepted.’
I’m no psychologist, so I’ll leave the discussion about how possible it is to have intergenerational trauma from the famine to the experts. One thing that did spring to mind was the fact that Irish home ownership rates are far higher than comparable countries and some say that it’s down to the fact that we weren’t able to own our own homes/land for centuries.
Think it’s called genetic memory
My friend claimed to have inter generational chlamydia. At least that’s what He told his partner when she confronted him. Claims his ancestors got it from eating infected potatoes. He’s single now.
Hon, release that therapist.
150 year old trauma is gone now.
Be thankful it wasn’t something a priest did to your dad….or mom.
Use your own imagination.
The most conclusive evidence of epigenetic effects due to a “traumatic” event stem from the Dutch famine during WW2.
Here, a gene involved in metabolism has far less methylation (so is less suppressed) in individuals who were prenatally exposed to the famine than those who weren’t.
Beyond parental diet and environment, the evidence for inter-generational trauma, as it pertains to mental illness or traumatic events experienced by ancestors is far, far more tenuous.