There are already schemes like the Red Tractor farm and food assurance scheme,
I’m not convinced there are huge numbers of people who’d want this.
Personally, it’s more important to me that, as far as reasonably possible, my purchases were locally produced and didn’t rack up stupid amount of carbon emissions on their way to the shops. I already expect existing regulations to cover animal welfare on UK farms, so extra labels confirming it seems unnecessary. However, I’m still going to be left totally in the dark whenever I eat out at a restaurant, so IMO it’d be fairly pointless if the policy was full of holes.
I can just see the labels now
*This animal had it’s jugular, carotid artery and windpipe cut before dying as it bled out*
I think this meat already has a label though and appears to make it more desirable to some, not less?
Guilt was what finally tipped me over the edge into quitting meat. I at least think companies that mislead people like “Happy Egg” or “Laughing Cow” need to be forced to be more honest, they’re disgusting.
We already have nice little labels to make people feel better. ‘Get your pork from a Red Tractor farm where you can watch the footage of workers caving piglets heads in on the pavement’ and this type of thing.
The only thing these schemes are good for, studies seem to show, is convincing people that the product is worth paying more for – in that sense they are great for the largest producers who have the most money to sway certifying bodies who will put their little stamp on, immediately making the product more expensive without any change in welfare standards 😀 what a win for all of us working our asses off all week just to pay extra for the worst food produced in disgusting conditions in an industry rife with animal abusers 😀
I’d honestly prefer legislation to establish that all meat and dairy sold in the UK had to meet animal welfare standards in the way they’re treated. A LOT of ready meals are made using Thai chicken etc. As its cheaper to ship over horribly treated animals tha raise then to UK welfare standards.
Same with caged eggs, I’d bet good money that every pre-made cake, pastry and ready meal you’ve bought wasn’t made with even Barn eggs – all caged.
As a consumer I have never heard another consumer say they want this.
Consumers would be very, very upset at what they saw if this actually happened. I don’t think people would be so quick to pick up the pack of bacon that read “as a baby, this pig was castrated without anaesthetic, had teeth blunted with clippers, and watched its runt sibling be smacked into the concrete ground to euthanise as it was too small to be profitable. Pig was then kept in miserable conditions for the whole 6 months it got to live before being crammed into a truck with others, driven across the country without food and water, before being gassed and having its throat slit”.
it was 2 days ago that i discovered that “free range” means fuck all.
So yeah, i want animal welfare info.
Or, rather, i want that certain means of growing animals that fall outside of what [the man on the Clapham omnibus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus) would think is acceptable welfare, to be banned alltogether; i don’t want a price war in Tesco, and, believe me, my heart does not bleed for an animal that i want to kill, i just want to eat. healthy. food.
Stop making me jump through intellectual loops to figure out if the chicken i eat will kill me in 30years’ time.
Haha! There is no way we can have this when our farmer’s only current hope of survival is a race to the bottom.
I’m a veggie, before anyone leaps on me, and the farmer’s crisis is entirely of their own making, so I am just commenting to say that this cannot possibly go ahead.
Obviously improved welfare would be a good thing, but if we don’t have to eat animal produce (a fact supported by dietic associations across the globe, including our very own NHS), morally we shouldn’t.
In most other circumstances, people would argue that harming animals unnecessarily is wrong, yet people turn a blind eye when it comes to their own habits. I sure did, most of us are raised on animal produce, and think of flawed arguments to justify why it’s okay, or just don’t think about it at all.
Game meat should be more popular, game live healthier lives than farm animals. Plus there’s more wild deer around in the UK now than ever, actually too much.
No way for chicks to be ground up in a pro welfare way
Sticking the hallal method on there would make it interesting. As it seems to me a more brutal way of being killed.
Gonna make eating disorders worse in the process of attempting to do this.
Just put a cycling live feed of supplier farms and slaughterhouses in the meat, dairy, and egg isles.
The problem with labels is that they aren’t necessarily regulated and even if they are, the accreditation is usually very liberally applied (like “dolphin friendly” tuna- it’s a label regulated by the fishing industry and amounts to a surveyor being paid to apply that label). Labelling foods detailing welfare is a last ditch and futile attempt at consumers justifying bad practice, and wanting to turn a blind eye to their complicity in animal abuse.
If you are eating it then it did not have a good life. All the label will do is tell you if what you ate had a shittier life than another animal. I don’t think better labeling is a bad thing but whatever you want to get from that label no animal wants to be eaten.
Actually, I want everything except the highest possible welfare meat banned outright. Meat would probably at least triple in price, but so be it – we’d just eat less of it.
Meat eaters want platitudes that allow them to continue eating meat without any guilt.
I want cameras on live stock at all times so I can watch thier whole life
Hahahaha. Genuinely, let me laugh even harder.
If anyone gave a shit about animal welfare they’d be a vegan. Spend some time on farms. It’s brutal now matter what rules are in place. They’re a product at the end of the day.
To be fair, if I need a halal tag on my animal products. So could others
Let’s be honest, if you truly cared about their welfare you wouldn’t kill/eat them. Just another way for people to try and justify and make themselves feel better about eating meat.
I don’t want meat anymore, but when I did, I found it interesting that none of the meat that I bought had any pictures of its corresponding animal on the packaging.
They want us to forget what it used to be and not think too much about how it got to our plate.
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There are already schemes like the Red Tractor farm and food assurance scheme,
I’m not convinced there are huge numbers of people who’d want this.
Personally, it’s more important to me that, as far as reasonably possible, my purchases were locally produced and didn’t rack up stupid amount of carbon emissions on their way to the shops. I already expect existing regulations to cover animal welfare on UK farms, so extra labels confirming it seems unnecessary. However, I’m still going to be left totally in the dark whenever I eat out at a restaurant, so IMO it’d be fairly pointless if the policy was full of holes.
I can just see the labels now
*This animal had it’s jugular, carotid artery and windpipe cut before dying as it bled out*
I think this meat already has a label though and appears to make it more desirable to some, not less?
Guilt was what finally tipped me over the edge into quitting meat. I at least think companies that mislead people like “Happy Egg” or “Laughing Cow” need to be forced to be more honest, they’re disgusting.
We already have nice little labels to make people feel better. ‘Get your pork from a Red Tractor farm where you can watch the footage of workers caving piglets heads in on the pavement’ and this type of thing.
The only thing these schemes are good for, studies seem to show, is convincing people that the product is worth paying more for – in that sense they are great for the largest producers who have the most money to sway certifying bodies who will put their little stamp on, immediately making the product more expensive without any change in welfare standards 😀 what a win for all of us working our asses off all week just to pay extra for the worst food produced in disgusting conditions in an industry rife with animal abusers 😀
I’d honestly prefer legislation to establish that all meat and dairy sold in the UK had to meet animal welfare standards in the way they’re treated. A LOT of ready meals are made using Thai chicken etc. As its cheaper to ship over horribly treated animals tha raise then to UK welfare standards.
Same with caged eggs, I’d bet good money that every pre-made cake, pastry and ready meal you’ve bought wasn’t made with even Barn eggs – all caged.
As a consumer I have never heard another consumer say they want this.
Consumers would be very, very upset at what they saw if this actually happened. I don’t think people would be so quick to pick up the pack of bacon that read “as a baby, this pig was castrated without anaesthetic, had teeth blunted with clippers, and watched its runt sibling be smacked into the concrete ground to euthanise as it was too small to be profitable. Pig was then kept in miserable conditions for the whole 6 months it got to live before being crammed into a truck with others, driven across the country without food and water, before being gassed and having its throat slit”.
it was 2 days ago that i discovered that “free range” means fuck all.
So yeah, i want animal welfare info.
Or, rather, i want that certain means of growing animals that fall outside of what [the man on the Clapham omnibus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus) would think is acceptable welfare, to be banned alltogether; i don’t want a price war in Tesco, and, believe me, my heart does not bleed for an animal that i want to kill, i just want to eat. healthy. food.
Stop making me jump through intellectual loops to figure out if the chicken i eat will kill me in 30years’ time.
Haha! There is no way we can have this when our farmer’s only current hope of survival is a race to the bottom.
I’m a veggie, before anyone leaps on me, and the farmer’s crisis is entirely of their own making, so I am just commenting to say that this cannot possibly go ahead.
Obviously improved welfare would be a good thing, but if we don’t have to eat animal produce (a fact supported by dietic associations across the globe, including our very own NHS), morally we shouldn’t.
In most other circumstances, people would argue that harming animals unnecessarily is wrong, yet people turn a blind eye when it comes to their own habits. I sure did, most of us are raised on animal produce, and think of flawed arguments to justify why it’s okay, or just don’t think about it at all.
Game meat should be more popular, game live healthier lives than farm animals. Plus there’s more wild deer around in the UK now than ever, actually too much.
No way for chicks to be ground up in a pro welfare way
Sticking the hallal method on there would make it interesting. As it seems to me a more brutal way of being killed.
Gonna make eating disorders worse in the process of attempting to do this.
Just put a cycling live feed of supplier farms and slaughterhouses in the meat, dairy, and egg isles.
The problem with labels is that they aren’t necessarily regulated and even if they are, the accreditation is usually very liberally applied (like “dolphin friendly” tuna- it’s a label regulated by the fishing industry and amounts to a surveyor being paid to apply that label). Labelling foods detailing welfare is a last ditch and futile attempt at consumers justifying bad practice, and wanting to turn a blind eye to their complicity in animal abuse.
If you are eating it then it did not have a good life. All the label will do is tell you if what you ate had a shittier life than another animal. I don’t think better labeling is a bad thing but whatever you want to get from that label no animal wants to be eaten.
Actually, I want everything except the highest possible welfare meat banned outright. Meat would probably at least triple in price, but so be it – we’d just eat less of it.
Meat eaters want platitudes that allow them to continue eating meat without any guilt.
I want cameras on live stock at all times so I can watch thier whole life
Hahahaha. Genuinely, let me laugh even harder.
If anyone gave a shit about animal welfare they’d be a vegan. Spend some time on farms. It’s brutal now matter what rules are in place. They’re a product at the end of the day.
To be fair, if I need a halal tag on my animal products. So could others
Let’s be honest, if you truly cared about their welfare you wouldn’t kill/eat them. Just another way for people to try and justify and make themselves feel better about eating meat.
I don’t want meat anymore, but when I did, I found it interesting that none of the meat that I bought had any pictures of its corresponding animal on the packaging.
They want us to forget what it used to be and not think too much about how it got to our plate.
In France I tend to only buy the “Label Rouge”.
It is been available for as far as I remember.
Just checked, it appeared it was created in 1966:
https://www.inao.gouv.fr/eng/Official-signs-identifying-quality-and-origin/Label-Rouge-Red-Label
If you are buying a bit of an animal to eat then I think you can assume animal welfare wasn’t great.