But you have to understand, he is an alcoholic and suffers from depression. The victim is no longer with us and therefore doesn’t suffer anymore but the murderer is still with us and has feelings. /s
Compared to where? 13 years in prison isn’t exactly a picnic is it?
Switzerland has a rule consequentialist approach in legislation. Does your law decrease suffering for the affected in the short, mid, and long run?
Locking up first term murderers for 50 years does not make society better. Because you ultimately take out a person from the workforce and society has to pay for them day by day. If you take too many out for too long, the costs of keeping them there divert resources from areas money could do a better job (e.g. prevention). However, there are mechanisms to lock up certain kinds of incurable psychopaths indefinitely- when it gets clear that their release would only cause the next bad thing to happen.
It does look counter-intuitive at first, because you would expect higher charges would prevent crimes. But crime rates in Switzerland are very, very low. Unlike in America where charges are so ridiculously high that when you have to go to jail for decades anyway, you also just can make it ten times more extreme and nothing holds you back. That’s more dangerous.
Imagine looking at America, with the highest number of incarcerated people in the world. Yep. More than China with 4 times the population and less ‘freedom’ and thinking their system works better than switzerland.
Thats absolutely batshit mental. Theres criminally insane people with a better grasp on reality than that.
I assume this is in comparison to the US? Where you can admit to raping four girls and get no jail time, but the “war on drugs” put people away for decades. Meanwhile, look at people like Ghislaine Maxwell, and explain why she is still walking around free. The US justice system…isn’t. A justice system, that is.
Anyway: harsh penalties are not always the answer. If someone is not incorrigible, the goal of the system has to be not only punishment, but also rehabilitation. Returning someone to society as a productive (and safe) member of that society. Imprisonment is only one factor in the equation.
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But you have to understand, he is an alcoholic and suffers from depression. The victim is no longer with us and therefore doesn’t suffer anymore but the murderer is still with us and has feelings. /s
Compared to where? 13 years in prison isn’t exactly a picnic is it?
Switzerland has a rule consequentialist approach in legislation. Does your law decrease suffering for the affected in the short, mid, and long run?
Locking up first term murderers for 50 years does not make society better. Because you ultimately take out a person from the workforce and society has to pay for them day by day. If you take too many out for too long, the costs of keeping them there divert resources from areas money could do a better job (e.g. prevention). However, there are mechanisms to lock up certain kinds of incurable psychopaths indefinitely- when it gets clear that their release would only cause the next bad thing to happen.
It does look counter-intuitive at first, because you would expect higher charges would prevent crimes. But crime rates in Switzerland are very, very low. Unlike in America where charges are so ridiculously high that when you have to go to jail for decades anyway, you also just can make it ten times more extreme and nothing holds you back. That’s more dangerous.
Imagine looking at America, with the highest number of incarcerated people in the world. Yep. More than China with 4 times the population and less ‘freedom’ and thinking their system works better than switzerland.
Thats absolutely batshit mental. Theres criminally insane people with a better grasp on reality than that.
I assume this is in comparison to the US? Where you can admit to raping four girls and get no jail time, but the “war on drugs” put people away for decades. Meanwhile, look at people like Ghislaine Maxwell, and explain why she is still walking around free. The US justice system…isn’t. A justice system, that is.
Anyway: harsh penalties are not always the answer. If someone is not incorrigible, the goal of the system has to be not only punishment, but also rehabilitation. Returning someone to society as a productive (and safe) member of that society. Imprisonment is only one factor in the equation.
Because we are pussies