Well done Germany, you will be riddled with spies within days.
Russia will soon claim German territory to be actually Russian due to the Russians living there.
Good. Its simply the right thing to do, and also our legal obligation.
Germany. Always doing the wrong thing.
As they were not already swimming in Russian spies…
Soon, we will have berliningrad inside the EU
Just bring a gas cylinder with you and Germany will take you right in.
Strategically it makes sense to take in anyone with technical skills or a degree. It will weaken Russia tremendously.
Good job, Germany
People not even understanding why this is a good thing… I wonder what all these keybordwarriors would do if they were in russia…..
No. They fled because they are against mobilization, but not against war. I don’t want that they bring the conflict to the camps we are hosting our Ukrainian friends in.
They should march against Putin or hide in the giant wilderness of Russia.
What makes these men more worthy of safety than Ukrainian men? Why is it a priority to save them from an OMON baton when Ukranian men are being shot and tortured and their cities indiscriminately shelled? Why is it a priority to give Russians a way to avoid facing up to the regime that they directly or indirectly have supported for years and let them have Ukrainians bleed to change their government instead of them? Putin isn’t singlehandedly building, maintaining, arming, driving and paying for all the tanks rolling over Ukraine from Russia right now. He also isn’t the one who has been sitting in their homes cheering at the revanchist nonsense coming from TV instead of being politically active and preventing a fascist dictatorship from taking root in Russia for all these decades when ousting Putin was way easier. In fact, most men being called up right now are literally the ones who have helped Putin do what he wants, being that they are focusing on calling up men with military experience, especially the ones who have served in Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere before.
Refugee policy has become Europe’s lazy all purpose foreign policy tool that’s now the preferred answer to any and all problems people face outside of it’s borders. No consideration given to any sort of coherent strategy. No need for actual results. Never mind that it’s at best ever going to save a miniscule amount of the people in need. It’s a simple way for some Europeans to feel good about themselves and for them to get up on their high horse and look down on all the people who are actually trying to deal with the messy, dangerous and often tragic world we live in. When taking in Ukrainian women and children, there is a clear goal in mind. We’re helping the Ukrainian state deal with the mass of people who have been forced from their homes because of the fighting and hopefully giving some Ukrainian men a peace of mind that their families are safe while they struggle to defend their freedoms and land. It has a direct material effect on helping to bring about a better and quicker solution to the situation. How is giving blanket refuge to Russians do that? Are you seriously thinking you could deprive Putin of his 45 million potential draftees? Or are you just going to shelter those who have served in his military, often by fighting foreign wars for him, and leave the rest, who were far less involved in his antics, to be used as cannon fodder or to be trained up as a new set of killers?
I can completely understand that people are looking at individual Russians who are now facing being dragged off to a war they don’t want to fight or being beat up and thrown in a Siberian prison. That’s horrific. A tragedy on the individual, but we’re talking here about a whole society and societal changes such as democratization are rarely bloodless or easy. Nor are they carried out with clean hands. We should carry out our duties before international law and offer asylum to those who can prove that they’re in imminent danger, but giving Russians the impression that they can just take the easy way out, that they and their society doesn’t need to struggle and change or that we accept them leaving the killing and dying to the Ukrainians is not something we should entertain.
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Well done Germany, you will be riddled with spies within days.
Russia will soon claim German territory to be actually Russian due to the Russians living there.
Good. Its simply the right thing to do, and also our legal obligation.
Germany. Always doing the wrong thing.
As they were not already swimming in Russian spies…
Soon, we will have berliningrad inside the EU
Just bring a gas cylinder with you and Germany will take you right in.
Strategically it makes sense to take in anyone with technical skills or a degree. It will weaken Russia tremendously.
Good job, Germany
People not even understanding why this is a good thing… I wonder what all these keybordwarriors would do if they were in russia…..
No. They fled because they are against mobilization, but not against war. I don’t want that they bring the conflict to the camps we are hosting our Ukrainian friends in.
They should march against Putin or hide in the giant wilderness of Russia.
What makes these men more worthy of safety than Ukrainian men? Why is it a priority to save them from an OMON baton when Ukranian men are being shot and tortured and their cities indiscriminately shelled? Why is it a priority to give Russians a way to avoid facing up to the regime that they directly or indirectly have supported for years and let them have Ukrainians bleed to change their government instead of them? Putin isn’t singlehandedly building, maintaining, arming, driving and paying for all the tanks rolling over Ukraine from Russia right now. He also isn’t the one who has been sitting in their homes cheering at the revanchist nonsense coming from TV instead of being politically active and preventing a fascist dictatorship from taking root in Russia for all these decades when ousting Putin was way easier. In fact, most men being called up right now are literally the ones who have helped Putin do what he wants, being that they are focusing on calling up men with military experience, especially the ones who have served in Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere before.
Refugee policy has become Europe’s lazy all purpose foreign policy tool that’s now the preferred answer to any and all problems people face outside of it’s borders. No consideration given to any sort of coherent strategy. No need for actual results. Never mind that it’s at best ever going to save a miniscule amount of the people in need. It’s a simple way for some Europeans to feel good about themselves and for them to get up on their high horse and look down on all the people who are actually trying to deal with the messy, dangerous and often tragic world we live in. When taking in Ukrainian women and children, there is a clear goal in mind. We’re helping the Ukrainian state deal with the mass of people who have been forced from their homes because of the fighting and hopefully giving some Ukrainian men a peace of mind that their families are safe while they struggle to defend their freedoms and land. It has a direct material effect on helping to bring about a better and quicker solution to the situation. How is giving blanket refuge to Russians do that? Are you seriously thinking you could deprive Putin of his 45 million potential draftees? Or are you just going to shelter those who have served in his military, often by fighting foreign wars for him, and leave the rest, who were far less involved in his antics, to be used as cannon fodder or to be trained up as a new set of killers?
I can completely understand that people are looking at individual Russians who are now facing being dragged off to a war they don’t want to fight or being beat up and thrown in a Siberian prison. That’s horrific. A tragedy on the individual, but we’re talking here about a whole society and societal changes such as democratization are rarely bloodless or easy. Nor are they carried out with clean hands. We should carry out our duties before international law and offer asylum to those who can prove that they’re in imminent danger, but giving Russians the impression that they can just take the easy way out, that they and their society doesn’t need to struggle and change or that we accept them leaving the killing and dying to the Ukrainians is not something we should entertain.