But why though? I’m all for holding the police to account whether it’s brutality, overreach, racism, whatever it may be. I’ve read the details of this case, this man is really not the person to be holding up as a martyr. He had previous firearm convictions, was an active gangster and died while attacking the police. I’m not happy he’s dead but I’m glad he’s no longer a risk to others. As much as I dislike a lot of what the police do it’s really quite hard to fault them in this case.
To rally around a guy like Kaba is to do a disservice to legitimate victims of profiling and brutality.
At this point police just should release camera footage. This isn’t usa, I have many grudges against UK police, but being trigger happy isn’t one of them. I’m 99% sure that Kaba deserved to be shot. (As in, he was posing enough risk to justify use of firearm)
the “local community” rallies to protect their interests for if you can’t try to murder the police with a car then that’s just racist
They’ll all fizzle out, maybe burn a vape shop and it’ll go up in Apple smoke
Just release the footage ffs. Then the filth can either be held to account or the family and supporters can stfu
Man who’d committed previous fire arms offences , was driving a car that apparently had been involved in fire arms offence and he apparently got shot driving at the police .
I’m finding some of this reaction disturbing, especially with MPs getting involved calling for ‘justice’. An investigation is ongoing, but they’ve already decided the policeman is guilty. It doesn’t matter now what the result of the investigation is, or innocent until proven guilty, he will be branded a racist murderer while Kaba was an innocent father to be. It just seems irresponsible for politicians and celebrities to be getting involved like this and influencing public opinion when they don’t actually know what happened.
The met offered to show the bodycam footage to the family a few days ago, has anybody seen any updates, from the family or met since then?
Seems pretty open and shut on both accounts, cops killed an innocent man who did nothing wrong except run from the cops and rap, he had no gun on him
and man who was previously charged with some gun-related charge was in a gun charge-linked car so the cop was justified to shoot first
the protesting thing is pretty simple, it’s cause he’s black
What a shock, white people protesting the death of a black person by the police
You have to ask…would he still be alive if he just stopped and surrendered when first confronted by the police. Just stopped the car and did what the police asked. My guess is yes he would be.
One needs three things to legally shoot someone dead.
1) an HONESTLY HELD belief that there is;
2) an imminent threat to human life AND
3) that their use of force is PROPORTIONATE.
If you’re an armed police officer and you’re given intelligence that someone has a firearm and they may be violent, that contributes to your honestly held belief. When you then meet that individual and their actions threaten your life or the lives of others, that then confirms what you already suspect. Police officers have no more right to use force than anyone else, it just happens more often.
People in comments: “Protests must stop until a full investigation has been conducted and facts have been established, it is irresponsible to comment on an event until that has happened”
Also people in comments: “Stop defending Chris, he was ramming a police officer with his car! We know this is 100% true because the Met Police said so in a statement”
Make your mind up reddit. You cannot argue that the protests are premature if you are taking the Met’s word at face value here
I hate how people protest for the protection of criminals then complain about the crime problem.
Only the facts of the events that led to the shooting can determine if it was proportionate and lawful. The issue here is that the trust in the police is so low that many believe the truth will be hidden and a narrative of misinformation will be told.
The media keep using the word unarmed which is in itself misleading. I have seen someone crushed against a wall by a car and in their adrenaline fuelled state tear themselves (literally) from being pinned and collapse immediately to the floor with life changing injuries. A car can be used as a weapon and unless the car is immobilised (engine off) and unable to move then the individual behind the wheel can cause enormous harm.
If its found that the car was fully immobilised then this shooting would be unlawful.
If the individual was trying to ram cars or people to try and escape then it is lawful.
How is it that some people still can’t grasp basic ideas?
The police try to detain you, no matter how much butt hurt you feel about it, just comply politely and calmly, then if the officer has done something wrong, when you get home, call a solicitor and sue them.
Resisting arrest can never work. It’s not like the officer is going to say “oh, he’s resisting, I best let him go then”. The force just ramps up until you are detained.
If you’re right and they’re wrong then take their job later and a whole bunch of money. If you choose to fight back you will get hurt, and that’s entirely on you.
No protest for the two officers stabbed by a black guy though 🙂
Nationwide protests in support of a notorious criminal who tried to run down the police and got shot.
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Where were the nationwide protests for David Adegbite, an innocent guy shot by gangsters in London in a case of mistaken identifty?
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Or Sam Brown–shot and murdered at a party in July by gangsters?
I’m saying it before comments get restricted: Chris Kaba was a criminal and would have been treated the same if he were white. The only thing that would have been different if he was white is there would be no protests.
Hopefully an independent review will highlight all these things. Regardless of training, if you know the man is known for carrying then that has to raise the officers edginess knowing he could pull a weapon. The race thing will hijack the death for whatever agenda people want to push.
If the lad was squeaky clean then he would still be here. Actions from both sides have arrived us here.
Balance.
Smh these big businesses just hopping on the latest media story. What did his death have to do with banking anyway??
So they protest for a criminal and not the cost of living crisis. Make it make sense
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But why though? I’m all for holding the police to account whether it’s brutality, overreach, racism, whatever it may be. I’ve read the details of this case, this man is really not the person to be holding up as a martyr. He had previous firearm convictions, was an active gangster and died while attacking the police. I’m not happy he’s dead but I’m glad he’s no longer a risk to others. As much as I dislike a lot of what the police do it’s really quite hard to fault them in this case.
To rally around a guy like Kaba is to do a disservice to legitimate victims of profiling and brutality.
At this point police just should release camera footage. This isn’t usa, I have many grudges against UK police, but being trigger happy isn’t one of them. I’m 99% sure that Kaba deserved to be shot. (As in, he was posing enough risk to justify use of firearm)
the “local community” rallies to protect their interests for if you can’t try to murder the police with a car then that’s just racist
They’ll all fizzle out, maybe burn a vape shop and it’ll go up in Apple smoke
Just release the footage ffs. Then the filth can either be held to account or the family and supporters can stfu
Man who’d committed previous fire arms offences , was driving a car that apparently had been involved in fire arms offence and he apparently got shot driving at the police .
I’m finding some of this reaction disturbing, especially with MPs getting involved calling for ‘justice’. An investigation is ongoing, but they’ve already decided the policeman is guilty. It doesn’t matter now what the result of the investigation is, or innocent until proven guilty, he will be branded a racist murderer while Kaba was an innocent father to be. It just seems irresponsible for politicians and celebrities to be getting involved like this and influencing public opinion when they don’t actually know what happened.
The met offered to show the bodycam footage to the family a few days ago, has anybody seen any updates, from the family or met since then?
Seems pretty open and shut on both accounts, cops killed an innocent man who did nothing wrong except run from the cops and rap, he had no gun on him
and man who was previously charged with some gun-related charge was in a gun charge-linked car so the cop was justified to shoot first
the protesting thing is pretty simple, it’s cause he’s black
What a shock, white people protesting the death of a black person by the police
You have to ask…would he still be alive if he just stopped and surrendered when first confronted by the police. Just stopped the car and did what the police asked. My guess is yes he would be.
One needs three things to legally shoot someone dead.
1) an HONESTLY HELD belief that there is;
2) an imminent threat to human life AND
3) that their use of force is PROPORTIONATE.
If you’re an armed police officer and you’re given intelligence that someone has a firearm and they may be violent, that contributes to your honestly held belief. When you then meet that individual and their actions threaten your life or the lives of others, that then confirms what you already suspect. Police officers have no more right to use force than anyone else, it just happens more often.
People in comments: “Protests must stop until a full investigation has been conducted and facts have been established, it is irresponsible to comment on an event until that has happened”
Also people in comments: “Stop defending Chris, he was ramming a police officer with his car! We know this is 100% true because the Met Police said so in a statement”
Make your mind up reddit. You cannot argue that the protests are premature if you are taking the Met’s word at face value here
I hate how people protest for the protection of criminals then complain about the crime problem.
Only the facts of the events that led to the shooting can determine if it was proportionate and lawful. The issue here is that the trust in the police is so low that many believe the truth will be hidden and a narrative of misinformation will be told.
The media keep using the word unarmed which is in itself misleading. I have seen someone crushed against a wall by a car and in their adrenaline fuelled state tear themselves (literally) from being pinned and collapse immediately to the floor with life changing injuries. A car can be used as a weapon and unless the car is immobilised (engine off) and unable to move then the individual behind the wheel can cause enormous harm.
If its found that the car was fully immobilised then this shooting would be unlawful.
If the individual was trying to ram cars or people to try and escape then it is lawful.
How is it that some people still can’t grasp basic ideas?
The police try to detain you, no matter how much butt hurt you feel about it, just comply politely and calmly, then if the officer has done something wrong, when you get home, call a solicitor and sue them.
Resisting arrest can never work. It’s not like the officer is going to say “oh, he’s resisting, I best let him go then”. The force just ramps up until you are detained.
If you’re right and they’re wrong then take their job later and a whole bunch of money. If you choose to fight back you will get hurt, and that’s entirely on you.
No protest for the two officers stabbed by a black guy though 🙂
Nationwide protests in support of a notorious criminal who tried to run down the police and got shot.
​
Where were the nationwide protests for David Adegbite, an innocent guy shot by gangsters in London in a case of mistaken identifty?
​
Or Sam Brown–shot and murdered at a party in July by gangsters?
I’m saying it before comments get restricted: Chris Kaba was a criminal and would have been treated the same if he were white. The only thing that would have been different if he was white is there would be no protests.
Hopefully an independent review will highlight all these things. Regardless of training, if you know the man is known for carrying then that has to raise the officers edginess knowing he could pull a weapon. The race thing will hijack the death for whatever agenda people want to push.
If the lad was squeaky clean then he would still be here. Actions from both sides have arrived us here.
Balance.
Smh these big businesses just hopping on the latest media story. What did his death have to do with banking anyway??
So they protest for a criminal and not the cost of living crisis. Make it make sense