But not all landlords are the same and to pigeonhole them as such is just fucking stupid.
Some people want / need to rent though, so in those cases, landlords are needed, and the vast majority of them are not gouging their tenants.
A normal functioning housing market needs a certain amount of landlords. student, people starting out on a career, highly mobile people and careers, these and many many more need rental accommodation and there should be landlords/accommodation available to house their needs.
Spectacularly stupid take
Populist “bile”.
Bang of horseshit off this one.
Do scalpers have costs to maintain their tickets?
Where do you propose international workers here for just a few years live?
Eh, no.
Not really. Sub-letters provide housing in the same way scalpers provide tickets, and subletting is pretty much banned under most leases. Imagine being dumb enough to lap up something as stupid as this.
Very simplistic take but i suspect nuance is lost on the target audience.
Pretty childish tweet that
Feel like a lot of you may be missing the point of the take.. in the context of the Irish housing market as it currently sits, the comparison of rental properties to a limited ticket event where price is determined by the highest available bid, a ticket scalper is an appropriate representation of any landlord who chooses to name their price.
Obviously private rental accommodation is necessary for any functional cities/towns and no one brush can be used for all landlords however, I would hardly consider Ireland a shining example for a rental sector implementation model.
Lots of “how will we rent houses without landlords”, they’re “not all the same”, etc. takes. From my point of view, just like ticket scalpers, most landlords in Ireland are charging more rent than the cost of maintaining the property and a reasonable amount of profit.
No one is saying that we should get rid of landlords. However, the FFG government seem to think without landlords there wouldn’t be housing, when really landlords are middle man of sorts that’s taking complete advantage in a shortage of supply.
This movement will drive out ‘small’ landlords and we will be left with a few massive banks or investment funds controlling the rental market. You will have something to cry about when they get a monopoly for sure….
As usual, lots of scumlords in the comments who aren’t like the other scumlords, no sireee Bob. And of course, the housing market is fucked because of every other reason other than Airbnb shiteheads, holiday home arseholes, and scumlords buying up properties inevitably pushing up prices for local people.
* if landlords exit the rental market, the property often sits idle. We need a better vacancy tax system if we’re going to push them out
* some landlords build or develop properties that wouldn’t be there otherwise
Ban scalpers, ban landlords. Then let’s see where students stay. Then let’s see where international employees stay. Then let’s see where the remaining homeless stay.
absolutely love the butthurt of inflated-ego landlords (and yes, depressingly, people who are not landlords but for some inexplicable reason can’t stop rushing to defend them) in this thread, always good for lols
* You do not build houses.
* You are not an architect, engineer, interior decorator or make any other contribution that requires education/ brains/ talent
* Your only skills is ‘owning something people need’. Statistically probably because you were given it by mammy or daddy.
* You weren’t ‘clever enough to invest’, you just had enough money to afford another house.
* You do not contribute anything of value.
* You extract other people’s wealth like a tick does blood.
I think your best route to peace is digging deep to find the courage to be honest with yourself about these things.
EDIT: Lots of feedback here, lots of comments and replies and I have to say, I’ve read them all and I was wrong, okay? Very wrong. I really had grossly underestimated how fragile Landlords and landlord-thralls are and how fantastically upset they get when someone points out the obvious fraudulence of their existence.
I would like to retract my first statement above as it is overly-simplifying and unfairly understating how funny it really is.
I’m listening. I’m learning. Thank you.
Look at that, a literally who verified twitter account saying something popular yet totally wrong for rt’s. Amazing.
>something FFG will never understand
Because it’s fucking stupid. Is there a single party other than some mentalist pretend revolutionaries that want to get rid of landlords??
Nonsense.
haha love it!
Renting in Ireland used to be what you do if you are a student, or while settling down to buy a house, it was always ment to be temporary, and is set up with this in mind. The fact that now many rent for life should have changed the system to acommodate that, but didn’t. The few renter’s rights, and rent pressure zones etc that landlords et al. keep giving out about are barely band aids to a rental market who’s demographic has changed so much in the last 20 years that it just does not work.
It’s something Sinn Fein don’t understand either, they love BTR up north where it actually benefits them to increase housing supply. Do you people pay any attention to what they are up to?
It’s a fucking stupid tweet anyway. Can you think for a moment how dysfunctional a property market with no rental in it would be?
Ticket Scalping was put to bed only in recent years. So a good comparison, but also proof a solution is possible.
This seems like something people on /r/ireland can’t understand rather than anyone else seeing as it’s a fucking poxy analogy
A lot of people defending landlords here, sad to see.
You’re right, FFG will never understand this, as it’s an awful analogy
Does anyone know where you can find statistics of things like first time buyer , professional investor buying their 5th investment property , etc by year ?
Like you shouldn’t be allowed to own more than say 3 properties (random number I pulled out of me arse), if the home is vacant more than x days a here, it goes on the market, to prevent foreign nationals buying up large amounts of property just to park their cash somewhere.
I inherited a house from a deceased family member and rent it out, and suddenly according to this sub I’m the scum of the earth.
Landlords are needed but what is also needed is a properly regulated and enforced market.
– RTB is underfunded and poweless, sure our own lawmakers dont even respect it.
– proper escrow deposit scheme like in other countries
– many landlords here have this attitude that the tenant should not only pay rhw mortgage but also the tax and a small profit on top of that.
– landlords seem to think that the property value can only ever increase and whinge about negative equity when it goes down. Its a business fuck heads!
– they are now whinging that they want tax cuts so they can keep even more profit under the false pretense thst they are leaving the market because its too difficult. If it is too difficult now when rents have never been higher then what was the diffiuculty a few years ago!
– the completly ignore the fact that the real profit os the asset they own at the end of the mortgage.
– ultimatly they are just greedy fucks
Fuck me, that’s such a good comparison.
Would you rather an individual, company, or government own your house/apartment?
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But not all landlords are the same and to pigeonhole them as such is just fucking stupid.
Some people want / need to rent though, so in those cases, landlords are needed, and the vast majority of them are not gouging their tenants.
A normal functioning housing market needs a certain amount of landlords. student, people starting out on a career, highly mobile people and careers, these and many many more need rental accommodation and there should be landlords/accommodation available to house their needs.
Spectacularly stupid take
Populist “bile”.
Bang of horseshit off this one.
Do scalpers have costs to maintain their tickets?
Where do you propose international workers here for just a few years live?
Eh, no.
Not really. Sub-letters provide housing in the same way scalpers provide tickets, and subletting is pretty much banned under most leases. Imagine being dumb enough to lap up something as stupid as this.
Very simplistic take but i suspect nuance is lost on the target audience.
Pretty childish tweet that
Feel like a lot of you may be missing the point of the take.. in the context of the Irish housing market as it currently sits, the comparison of rental properties to a limited ticket event where price is determined by the highest available bid, a ticket scalper is an appropriate representation of any landlord who chooses to name their price.
Obviously private rental accommodation is necessary for any functional cities/towns and no one brush can be used for all landlords however, I would hardly consider Ireland a shining example for a rental sector implementation model.
Lots of “how will we rent houses without landlords”, they’re “not all the same”, etc. takes. From my point of view, just like ticket scalpers, most landlords in Ireland are charging more rent than the cost of maintaining the property and a reasonable amount of profit.
No one is saying that we should get rid of landlords. However, the FFG government seem to think without landlords there wouldn’t be housing, when really landlords are middle man of sorts that’s taking complete advantage in a shortage of supply.
This movement will drive out ‘small’ landlords and we will be left with a few massive banks or investment funds controlling the rental market. You will have something to cry about when they get a monopoly for sure….
As usual, lots of scumlords in the comments who aren’t like the other scumlords, no sireee Bob. And of course, the housing market is fucked because of every other reason other than Airbnb shiteheads, holiday home arseholes, and scumlords buying up properties inevitably pushing up prices for local people.
* if landlords exit the rental market, the property often sits idle. We need a better vacancy tax system if we’re going to push them out
* some landlords build or develop properties that wouldn’t be there otherwise
Ban scalpers, ban landlords. Then let’s see where students stay. Then let’s see where international employees stay. Then let’s see where the remaining homeless stay.
absolutely love the butthurt of inflated-ego landlords (and yes, depressingly, people who are not landlords but for some inexplicable reason can’t stop rushing to defend them) in this thread, always good for lols
* You do not build houses.
* You are not an architect, engineer, interior decorator or make any other contribution that requires education/ brains/ talent
* Your only skills is ‘owning something people need’. Statistically probably because you were given it by mammy or daddy.
* You weren’t ‘clever enough to invest’, you just had enough money to afford another house.
* You do not contribute anything of value.
* You extract other people’s wealth like a tick does blood.
I think your best route to peace is digging deep to find the courage to be honest with yourself about these things.
EDIT: Lots of feedback here, lots of comments and replies and I have to say, I’ve read them all and I was wrong, okay? Very wrong. I really had grossly underestimated how fragile Landlords and landlord-thralls are and how fantastically upset they get when someone points out the obvious fraudulence of their existence.
I would like to retract my first statement above as it is overly-simplifying and unfairly understating how funny it really is.
I’m listening. I’m learning. Thank you.
Look at that, a literally who verified twitter account saying something popular yet totally wrong for rt’s. Amazing.
>something FFG will never understand
Because it’s fucking stupid. Is there a single party other than some mentalist pretend revolutionaries that want to get rid of landlords??
Nonsense.
haha love it!
Renting in Ireland used to be what you do if you are a student, or while settling down to buy a house, it was always ment to be temporary, and is set up with this in mind. The fact that now many rent for life should have changed the system to acommodate that, but didn’t. The few renter’s rights, and rent pressure zones etc that landlords et al. keep giving out about are barely band aids to a rental market who’s demographic has changed so much in the last 20 years that it just does not work.
It’s something Sinn Fein don’t understand either, they love BTR up north where it actually benefits them to increase housing supply. Do you people pay any attention to what they are up to?
It’s a fucking stupid tweet anyway. Can you think for a moment how dysfunctional a property market with no rental in it would be?
Ticket Scalping was put to bed only in recent years. So a good comparison, but also proof a solution is possible.
This seems like something people on /r/ireland can’t understand rather than anyone else seeing as it’s a fucking poxy analogy
A lot of people defending landlords here, sad to see.
You’re right, FFG will never understand this, as it’s an awful analogy
Does anyone know where you can find statistics of things like first time buyer , professional investor buying their 5th investment property , etc by year ?
Like you shouldn’t be allowed to own more than say 3 properties (random number I pulled out of me arse), if the home is vacant more than x days a here, it goes on the market, to prevent foreign nationals buying up large amounts of property just to park their cash somewhere.
I inherited a house from a deceased family member and rent it out, and suddenly according to this sub I’m the scum of the earth.
Landlords are needed but what is also needed is a properly regulated and enforced market.
– RTB is underfunded and poweless, sure our own lawmakers dont even respect it.
– proper escrow deposit scheme like in other countries
– many landlords here have this attitude that the tenant should not only pay rhw mortgage but also the tax and a small profit on top of that.
– landlords seem to think that the property value can only ever increase and whinge about negative equity when it goes down. Its a business fuck heads!
– they are now whinging that they want tax cuts so they can keep even more profit under the false pretense thst they are leaving the market because its too difficult. If it is too difficult now when rents have never been higher then what was the diffiuculty a few years ago!
– the completly ignore the fact that the real profit os the asset they own at the end of the mortgage.
– ultimatly they are just greedy fucks
Fuck me, that’s such a good comparison.
Would you rather an individual, company, or government own your house/apartment?