Everyone in Ireland should have the opportunity and experience of living abroad for at least some time in their lives.
Best thing you can do & gives some serious context on what life in Ireland is really like in comparison.
Waiting for the ‘oh its not just Ireland’ ‘everywhere has the same issues’ ‘grass isn’t always greener’ comments from people that haven’t left the country for more than a 2 week holiday to Spain.
How about stop talking about going and just go if its so bad.
I have family in Spain idk why I don’t just move in with them…
I think the problem here is that people think the attitude is “I can’t wait to get out of this kip” when it’s actually, “I’d love to be able to live here, but it’s just not financially viable.”
Can’t wrap my mind around these kind of “news”. There’s hardly another country that provides a better living situation than here. Work culture is relaxed or lazy, and the pay is great. Services, rents and goods are costly but are up to par with what ppl are earning.
On the upside, a load of younger people moving away, give me, an older dude, more job security and money as it’s much harder to replace me with a younger less expensive employee.
I’ve just moved here from the UK. Honestly I don’t get how going to the UK looks like an attractive proposition unless you’re getting silly money. It’s the same problems but on a bigger scale
Don’t they know that Ireland is the single greatest nation on earth! 13% of people living in persistent poverty is just the cost of doing business, you’re supposed to be a constant risk of poverty and homeless, that’s the punishment for ending up with a working class or increasingly middle class job.
Okay but it’s not really the cost of living in general. It’s very specifically the cost, but more importantly the near-zero availability of housing.
There was a stat here the other day showing that emigration is on significant decline
As a soon to be university graduate looking to emigrate it isn’t that Ireland is a failed country and other places are utopias but that the quality of life that an Irish graduate can get abroad is much higher than they can get at home.
Abroad housing is both higher quality and more readily available, socialising is less costly and less difficult, the burden of taxation is spread broader then it is here etc.
If you are leaving Ireland because of the cost of living, you’re in for a shock.
Still no great mystery to it, the cost of housing and renting is far too high. A pragmatic concern that may lead to some moving abroad, others will stick it out.
The only place I think they’ll be any better of is the north of the UK and that’s if they have the skills to secure a decent-paying job. Otherwise, they’d be better off staying at home on the dole.
I’m in London and it’s a joke. The infrastructure and culture here is amazing but I rent a bedroom while my friends all own their own homes. It erodes one’s spirit after a while.
I can’t imagine things being any different in places like New York, Paris, etc. Berlin, maybe but that’s because the Germans have a better rental system than most places.
I remember the same refrain in the 80s/90s. Most of my class emigrated. Me included. Fortunately I was deported back here after a few years. Emigration is part of the Irish economic cycle. Is it really a bad thing to be forced to innovate to create the life you want? The world is small now, people are agile and there’s great money to be made in places like Dubai and the US. Ireland will always be here so why not go away? Everyone in America leaves their small town for the city, Ireland is a small town heading away is just leaving it for the city.
I have been living in Glasgow for 8 years now with the missus. Came because I knew where it was going back home. I now have 2 kids and bought a house a few years ago. 15 mins on a train to city centre. Never would have achieved that in Ireland
Maybe voting FF-FG instead of FG-FF will change things?
My wife and I are in uni for the next couple years, hers is hr and mine is architecture. We’ll be leaving Ireland for Sweden literally the exact same week we will graduate. We would love to live here but the education, public services, how kids are less disciplined then my dog and how expensive the country is, we can’t afford to live here. Physically or mentally.
FFG will probably like this, less going voters to vote against them in the next election
I’m staying until I get the chance to vote SF, if we have to leave then they can fuck off out of power too
FFG are probably loving this, SF votes leaving in droves
I lived in Dubai for several years and have many Irish friends who have settled down there. None , and I mean none of them want to return back except to visit family on special occasions. One of them even brought in their parents to Dubai as they wanted them to have quality health care at the right time.. his mother who was on the waiting list for two years for a cataract surgery in Ireland, got her surgery done in a week. She is super happy and now has sold her Irish house and is settled in Dubai.
To this day they keep teasing me for going to Ireland when I could be in Dubai… If you move to these regions, there is a very good chance you will never feel like returning back.
The minute I finish my apprenticeship I’m going to try to leave
And the best thing of all for the politicians – the young people probably won’t bother to come back and vote! Excellent method of exporting the problem and it never really coming back to bite you 🤔
We really need to bring in postal votes, keep the government accountable to the people their policies chased away. Maybe then we’ll actually act in the young people’s best interest.
Living in Spain. €600- €1000 for 3 bedroom house with Garden. Would like to move back to Ireland but alas, we would be living to work only.
Moved to California almost 5 years ago, never looked back. Yes the COL in San Francisco is stupidly high, but so are the salaries. The high salary has afforded me the chance to actually buy a decent home back in Ireland in cash if I ever wanted to do that. But could I buy a place in SF? Not for a few more years.
I left Ireland in 2004. Not because of cost of living but I wanted to get out of small town Waterford and see what it was like to live in another country. Well, I’ve lived in four countries since then and I’d live to move home now. I’m currently in Canada, Toronto to be exact and I can’t see it happening. While Toronto is expensive, I earn a great wage here in construction. The same types of work back home, the pay is not the worst but not the best either. With the way things seem to be there now I’d barely be keeping my head above water. Just isn’t worth it. I do miss it something wicked tho.
We have an ageing population now because of our corrupt politicians building a country only they can afford to live in. Not good.
Moved 2 months ago from Australia.. cost of living here is like a dream compared to there.
Happened to me in 2008. Tempted a few times to come back but wages and house prices was a huge deterrent
Grim for younger people here now. When I was in my twenties Dublin was great craic. Its fucking shite now unless you’ve got a few quid.
Moving to NZ in November. Got a job in IT pretty easily and a salary match with my current job in Dublin. I have a 3 year work visa and I can apply for residency before I set foot in the country based on my salary.
Main reason for moving is to be with my kiwi partner but I’ve been wanting to move for a while just needed the push.
There’s just barely anything to do in Dublin, everything feels so exclusionary and “elitist” (not the best word but I can’t think of anything better). It’s just so expensive to live and everything beyond that costs out the ass. There’s no accessible food festivals, or decent beer festivals, culture and the arts are continuously disregarded and under funded. It’s not *fun* living here, not to mention I’ve been mugged 3 times in the last few years (yeah I know it can happen anywhere), and the level of violence I see on a nearly daily basis in the city is just depressing.
I love other parts of the country and partially I think living in the city center the last 10 years has worn me out, but I need a big change.
>“My parents bought their first house when they were 26,” said Rachel Richards, a 24-year-old student who works in a restaurant to pay the €700 per month to rent a room in a shared house and €5,000 a year for college.
“I’m stuck here for two years [to finish my psychology course]. After that, I’ll be gone. There’ll be no chance I can buy a house. It’s just insane.”
I find it weird that college students are here talking about potential to buy a house. When I was in college, all of us in the class had fuck all idea what the real world was like. I remember seeing a job advertised in the college and we all thought we’d be flying if we got a laptop and phone.
I didn’t even think of buying a house until I was almost 30. (I don’t own a house btw). I remember looking at the price register when I was 25 or 26 wondering how much the neighbours paid and thinking it was an insane figure. But as the years go on you get bigger bumps in salary and now if I had a missus with average wage then it would be realistic to buy similar.
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Everyone in Ireland should have the opportunity and experience of living abroad for at least some time in their lives.
Best thing you can do & gives some serious context on what life in Ireland is really like in comparison.
Waiting for the ‘oh its not just Ireland’ ‘everywhere has the same issues’ ‘grass isn’t always greener’ comments from people that haven’t left the country for more than a 2 week holiday to Spain.
How about stop talking about going and just go if its so bad.
I have family in Spain idk why I don’t just move in with them…
I think the problem here is that people think the attitude is “I can’t wait to get out of this kip” when it’s actually, “I’d love to be able to live here, but it’s just not financially viable.”
Can’t wrap my mind around these kind of “news”. There’s hardly another country that provides a better living situation than here. Work culture is relaxed or lazy, and the pay is great. Services, rents and goods are costly but are up to par with what ppl are earning.
On the upside, a load of younger people moving away, give me, an older dude, more job security and money as it’s much harder to replace me with a younger less expensive employee.
I’ve just moved here from the UK. Honestly I don’t get how going to the UK looks like an attractive proposition unless you’re getting silly money. It’s the same problems but on a bigger scale
Don’t they know that Ireland is the single greatest nation on earth! 13% of people living in persistent poverty is just the cost of doing business, you’re supposed to be a constant risk of poverty and homeless, that’s the punishment for ending up with a working class or increasingly middle class job.
Okay but it’s not really the cost of living in general. It’s very specifically the cost, but more importantly the near-zero availability of housing.
There was a stat here the other day showing that emigration is on significant decline
As a soon to be university graduate looking to emigrate it isn’t that Ireland is a failed country and other places are utopias but that the quality of life that an Irish graduate can get abroad is much higher than they can get at home.
Abroad housing is both higher quality and more readily available, socialising is less costly and less difficult, the burden of taxation is spread broader then it is here etc.
If you are leaving Ireland because of the cost of living, you’re in for a shock.
Still no great mystery to it, the cost of housing and renting is far too high. A pragmatic concern that may lead to some moving abroad, others will stick it out.
The only place I think they’ll be any better of is the north of the UK and that’s if they have the skills to secure a decent-paying job. Otherwise, they’d be better off staying at home on the dole.
I’m in London and it’s a joke. The infrastructure and culture here is amazing but I rent a bedroom while my friends all own their own homes. It erodes one’s spirit after a while.
I can’t imagine things being any different in places like New York, Paris, etc. Berlin, maybe but that’s because the Germans have a better rental system than most places.
I remember the same refrain in the 80s/90s. Most of my class emigrated. Me included. Fortunately I was deported back here after a few years. Emigration is part of the Irish economic cycle. Is it really a bad thing to be forced to innovate to create the life you want? The world is small now, people are agile and there’s great money to be made in places like Dubai and the US. Ireland will always be here so why not go away? Everyone in America leaves their small town for the city, Ireland is a small town heading away is just leaving it for the city.
I have been living in Glasgow for 8 years now with the missus. Came because I knew where it was going back home. I now have 2 kids and bought a house a few years ago. 15 mins on a train to city centre. Never would have achieved that in Ireland
Maybe voting FF-FG instead of FG-FF will change things?
My wife and I are in uni for the next couple years, hers is hr and mine is architecture. We’ll be leaving Ireland for Sweden literally the exact same week we will graduate. We would love to live here but the education, public services, how kids are less disciplined then my dog and how expensive the country is, we can’t afford to live here. Physically or mentally.
FFG will probably like this, less going voters to vote against them in the next election
I’m staying until I get the chance to vote SF, if we have to leave then they can fuck off out of power too
FFG are probably loving this, SF votes leaving in droves
I lived in Dubai for several years and have many Irish friends who have settled down there. None , and I mean none of them want to return back except to visit family on special occasions. One of them even brought in their parents to Dubai as they wanted them to have quality health care at the right time.. his mother who was on the waiting list for two years for a cataract surgery in Ireland, got her surgery done in a week. She is super happy and now has sold her Irish house and is settled in Dubai.
To this day they keep teasing me for going to Ireland when I could be in Dubai… If you move to these regions, there is a very good chance you will never feel like returning back.
The minute I finish my apprenticeship I’m going to try to leave
And the best thing of all for the politicians – the young people probably won’t bother to come back and vote! Excellent method of exporting the problem and it never really coming back to bite you 🤔
We really need to bring in postal votes, keep the government accountable to the people their policies chased away. Maybe then we’ll actually act in the young people’s best interest.
Living in Spain. €600- €1000 for 3 bedroom house with Garden. Would like to move back to Ireland but alas, we would be living to work only.
Moved to California almost 5 years ago, never looked back. Yes the COL in San Francisco is stupidly high, but so are the salaries. The high salary has afforded me the chance to actually buy a decent home back in Ireland in cash if I ever wanted to do that. But could I buy a place in SF? Not for a few more years.
I left Ireland in 2004. Not because of cost of living but I wanted to get out of small town Waterford and see what it was like to live in another country. Well, I’ve lived in four countries since then and I’d live to move home now. I’m currently in Canada, Toronto to be exact and I can’t see it happening. While Toronto is expensive, I earn a great wage here in construction. The same types of work back home, the pay is not the worst but not the best either. With the way things seem to be there now I’d barely be keeping my head above water. Just isn’t worth it. I do miss it something wicked tho.
We have an ageing population now because of our corrupt politicians building a country only they can afford to live in. Not good.
Moved 2 months ago from Australia.. cost of living here is like a dream compared to there.
Happened to me in 2008. Tempted a few times to come back but wages and house prices was a huge deterrent
Grim for younger people here now. When I was in my twenties Dublin was great craic. Its fucking shite now unless you’ve got a few quid.
Moving to NZ in November. Got a job in IT pretty easily and a salary match with my current job in Dublin. I have a 3 year work visa and I can apply for residency before I set foot in the country based on my salary.
Main reason for moving is to be with my kiwi partner but I’ve been wanting to move for a while just needed the push.
There’s just barely anything to do in Dublin, everything feels so exclusionary and “elitist” (not the best word but I can’t think of anything better). It’s just so expensive to live and everything beyond that costs out the ass. There’s no accessible food festivals, or decent beer festivals, culture and the arts are continuously disregarded and under funded. It’s not *fun* living here, not to mention I’ve been mugged 3 times in the last few years (yeah I know it can happen anywhere), and the level of violence I see on a nearly daily basis in the city is just depressing.
I love other parts of the country and partially I think living in the city center the last 10 years has worn me out, but I need a big change.
>“My parents bought their first house when they were 26,” said Rachel Richards, a 24-year-old student who works in a restaurant to pay the €700 per month to rent a room in a shared house and €5,000 a year for college.
“I’m stuck here for two years [to finish my psychology course]. After that, I’ll be gone. There’ll be no chance I can buy a house. It’s just insane.”
I find it weird that college students are here talking about potential to buy a house. When I was in college, all of us in the class had fuck all idea what the real world was like. I remember seeing a job advertised in the college and we all thought we’d be flying if we got a laptop and phone.
I didn’t even think of buying a house until I was almost 30. (I don’t own a house btw). I remember looking at the price register when I was 25 or 26 wondering how much the neighbours paid and thinking it was an insane figure. But as the years go on you get bigger bumps in salary and now if I had a missus with average wage then it would be realistic to buy similar.