Whoa I’m all for let people be who they want. Though I’d hope if my son was going through this at school and identifying as a girl there they would tell me. Feels mad they’d move him to girls pe classes etc and not tell me
This brings up the age old question of how they are supposed to manage this. I remember when I was a young boy at school and we would mess around constantly. We would 100% claim we want to be referred to as a girl and use the girls toilets just to wind people up. Would you let this kid change toilets and changing rooms and also not tell any of the parents? I’m not sure I’m cool with that because there would definitely be Mickey takers in that group.
> A disciplinary hearing last month upheld three complaints, which were that he had “subjected a gender-transitioning student” to “transphobic discrimination” and “harassment” and “refused to use” their preferred name and he/him pronouns.
Interesting that the writer didn’t dig into the first two complaints.
Yawn.
“Not letting me treat other people however I feel like is the real oppression. I’m just trying to protect the kids!”
They aren’t even trying anymore.
So going down the rabbit hole of sources here.
This originally came from the Mail.
>according to the Mail on Sunday.
His actions weren’t due to genuine concern for the pupil, but because he seemed to think he was medically qualified to discourage others from pursuing treatments that their actual medical professionals might recommend:
>He told the paper he was concerned that the social transition could lead to the teen later getting irreversible medical treatments.
His actions were directly contradicting school policy, which he agreed to follow:
>The school’s guide to supporting transitioning students is believed to state that staff should “maintain confidentiality and only tell others about the person’s trans status with their permission”.
and clearly has omitted the full story, given that there are two other upheld complaints that aren’t explored at all:
>”subjected a gender-transitioning student” to “transphobic discrimination” and “harassment” and “refused to use” their preferred name and he/him pronouns.
The school then tried to dismiss him nicely and quietly:
>”We acknowledge that you are entitled to your beliefs, however, it is my view that your treatment of [the student] violated his dignity.”
No naturally he ran straight to our transphobia ridden media. I expect to see a legal crowdfunder targeting the GC crowd in the next 48 hours.
> “I wanted at least to make sure that my student had parental support and was making an informed decision,” he said.
Fine if true, but unless you actually took action to check or ensure that parental support, it’s bullshit. Refusing to do it without parental support, and doing nothing to (dis)establish parental support, makes it very clear what your real issue is.
My take on this is who does it hurt?
Taking gender out of it this is a teacher insisting on calling Bobby Robert or Charlie Charlotte even after the kid has corrected them and asked them not to as they don’t like that name.
>Maths teacher sacked for deliberately mis-gendering student, says it was for his own protection.
Something definitely doesn’t add up… at least, not anymore.
What I will never understand is this. Nobody is forcing you to actually respect trans people. Nobody is making you change your beliefs or have any regard for well-being or buy into any of the science or philosophy. You’re free to feel as contemptuous and unpleasant as you like towards them, if you’re an unreasonably rude arsehole.
All people are asked to do is use rudimentary politeness. Call others by their preferred name. It costs literally nothing and is incredibly basic human interaction. And yet here we are.
For an issue that affects less than 1% of society directly, you really have to wonder what’s propelling so much media focus on it. (Unusual pronouns/childhood trans/youth trans.)
There’s a myriad of outlier issues that affect 1 in 100 people or less than 1 but we see one or two articles a decade. A good example would be schizophrenia which is still hugely stigmatised.
Honestly I would avoid anything that has to quote the Mail on Sunday. That is a cesspit of epic proportions especially with trans stories.
Headline doesn’t match up with the content very well.
He started unpicking medical advice provided to the pupil about a transition. He is not a medical professional. This would be a similar outcome if he had started telling a girl about dealing with their period based on his own conjecture.
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Whoa I’m all for let people be who they want. Though I’d hope if my son was going through this at school and identifying as a girl there they would tell me. Feels mad they’d move him to girls pe classes etc and not tell me
This brings up the age old question of how they are supposed to manage this. I remember when I was a young boy at school and we would mess around constantly. We would 100% claim we want to be referred to as a girl and use the girls toilets just to wind people up. Would you let this kid change toilets and changing rooms and also not tell any of the parents? I’m not sure I’m cool with that because there would definitely be Mickey takers in that group.
> A disciplinary hearing last month upheld three complaints, which were that he had “subjected a gender-transitioning student” to “transphobic discrimination” and “harassment” and “refused to use” their preferred name and he/him pronouns.
Interesting that the writer didn’t dig into the first two complaints.
Yawn.
“Not letting me treat other people however I feel like is the real oppression. I’m just trying to protect the kids!”
They aren’t even trying anymore.
So going down the rabbit hole of sources here.
This originally came from the Mail.
>according to the Mail on Sunday.
His actions weren’t due to genuine concern for the pupil, but because he seemed to think he was medically qualified to discourage others from pursuing treatments that their actual medical professionals might recommend:
>He told the paper he was concerned that the social transition could lead to the teen later getting irreversible medical treatments.
His actions were directly contradicting school policy, which he agreed to follow:
>The school’s guide to supporting transitioning students is believed to state that staff should “maintain confidentiality and only tell others about the person’s trans status with their permission”.
and clearly has omitted the full story, given that there are two other upheld complaints that aren’t explored at all:
>”subjected a gender-transitioning student” to “transphobic discrimination” and “harassment” and “refused to use” their preferred name and he/him pronouns.
The school then tried to dismiss him nicely and quietly:
>”We acknowledge that you are entitled to your beliefs, however, it is my view that your treatment of [the student] violated his dignity.”
No naturally he ran straight to our transphobia ridden media. I expect to see a legal crowdfunder targeting the GC crowd in the next 48 hours.
> “I wanted at least to make sure that my student had parental support and was making an informed decision,” he said.
Fine if true, but unless you actually took action to check or ensure that parental support, it’s bullshit. Refusing to do it without parental support, and doing nothing to (dis)establish parental support, makes it very clear what your real issue is.
My take on this is who does it hurt?
Taking gender out of it this is a teacher insisting on calling Bobby Robert or Charlie Charlotte even after the kid has corrected them and asked them not to as they don’t like that name.
>Maths teacher sacked for deliberately mis-gendering student, says it was for his own protection.
Something definitely doesn’t add up… at least, not anymore.
What I will never understand is this. Nobody is forcing you to actually respect trans people. Nobody is making you change your beliefs or have any regard for well-being or buy into any of the science or philosophy. You’re free to feel as contemptuous and unpleasant as you like towards them, if you’re an unreasonably rude arsehole.
All people are asked to do is use rudimentary politeness. Call others by their preferred name. It costs literally nothing and is incredibly basic human interaction. And yet here we are.
For an issue that affects less than 1% of society directly, you really have to wonder what’s propelling so much media focus on it. (Unusual pronouns/childhood trans/youth trans.)
There’s a myriad of outlier issues that affect 1 in 100 people or less than 1 but we see one or two articles a decade. A good example would be schizophrenia which is still hugely stigmatised.
Honestly I would avoid anything that has to quote the Mail on Sunday. That is a cesspit of epic proportions especially with trans stories.
Headline doesn’t match up with the content very well.
He started unpicking medical advice provided to the pupil about a transition. He is not a medical professional. This would be a similar outcome if he had started telling a girl about dealing with their period based on his own conjecture.