I don’t know much about this story, has she been in prison long? Is she remorseful? Is she rehabilitated?
Reading the article she is neither of these things. Keep her locked up.
Parole for serious crimes, especially murder, should be entirely focussed on whether the individual has reformed and whether they are a danger to the public.
Given the multiple follow up attacks after her murder, the sexual component to the murder itself, the previous recommendation 2 years ago that she not even be put into a downgrades prisoner as she represented a serious threat to other inmates… I think it’s safe to say this is one person who should never be released.
I’ve just read the article and I don’t want to speak for all women but I think they’d be safer with her still in prison. She comes across as an absolute psycho. Not rehabilitated in any way. A genuine scary person.
In any non insane judicial system, this wouldn’t even be a question. Why do we even consider releasing people like this? If you’re going to murder and rape, it’s more important that you’re separated from society, so that decent human beings aren’t placed at massive risk, if there’s any reasonable doubt about your rehab.
>Ever since she has been held in high-security prisons, often in solitary confinement due to violence towards inmates and staff, and is currently held in HMP Bronzefield in south-west London.
> Twenty-four months ago she was considered too unstable to be released after she tried to get her restricted prisoner status downgraded. Mr Justice Knowles denied permission for her to seek a judicial review after he heard she had fantasised about murdering another inmate. He wrote in his judgement: “She disclosed thoughts of wanting to murder another resident by splitting her head open with a flask and throwing her down the stairs to snap her neck.”
> At an assessment centre she tried to strangle two nurses and, while in the former Bullwood Hall young offender’s institute in Hockley, Essex, for the second attack, she began bragging about killing Katie on the phone to relatives and in prison diary entries, which showed she got sexual excitement from the murder.
One entry read: “I wish I could kill you again. I promise I’d make you suffer more. Your terrified screams turn me on.” Police also found that Carr had a history of cruelty to animals and once decapitated a dog with a spade. TV criminologist Prof David Wilson said: “I see nothing in terms of Carr’s institutional behaviour which would warrant parole.”
> Katie’s murder, which involved 32 stab wounds all over the hairdresser’s body, including intimate areas, was so brutal police initially thought they were hunting a man who had carried out a sexually motivated attack and no one was initially caught. Two years after the murder, she attacked a schoolgirl with a knife in Camberley, Surrey.
Did we not learn from the last time a murdering sack of shit that was released and went on a massacre in Borough Market
>Twenty-four months ago she was considered too unstable to be released after she tried to get her restricted prisoner status downgraded
Normally a murderer murders someone they know.
This one? Nah, can never risk or be sure she wont do it again.
Seems like she’s a violent psychopath. Probably best to keep her locked up.
What is actually the point in parole for murderers like this? They have shown themselves to be capable of taking life on a whim. Just leave them in prison until they die, society doesn’t gain anything by having them paroled…In fact society basically has to take a huge gamble in hoping they’re not capable of it again. It’s a completely needless gamble. Leave them inside.
Whilst I’m not a fan of 12 yr old going to prison for life, she sounds mentally unwell and would be safe for herself and everyone around if she were to stay in a mental facility.
Deserves the death penalty, it’s pretty clear her greatest contribution to society could be as a heart transplant, etc.
Surely this is a non-story. She has an upcoming parole hearing, but presumably, given the fact that she’s an unrepentant murderous maniac, the parole board are not going to let her out.
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I don’t know much about this story, has she been in prison long? Is she remorseful? Is she rehabilitated?
Reading the article she is neither of these things. Keep her locked up.
Parole for serious crimes, especially murder, should be entirely focussed on whether the individual has reformed and whether they are a danger to the public.
Given the multiple follow up attacks after her murder, the sexual component to the murder itself, the previous recommendation 2 years ago that she not even be put into a downgrades prisoner as she represented a serious threat to other inmates… I think it’s safe to say this is one person who should never be released.
I’ve just read the article and I don’t want to speak for all women but I think they’d be safer with her still in prison. She comes across as an absolute psycho. Not rehabilitated in any way. A genuine scary person.
In any non insane judicial system, this wouldn’t even be a question. Why do we even consider releasing people like this? If you’re going to murder and rape, it’s more important that you’re separated from society, so that decent human beings aren’t placed at massive risk, if there’s any reasonable doubt about your rehab.
>Ever since she has been held in high-security prisons, often in solitary confinement due to violence towards inmates and staff, and is currently held in HMP Bronzefield in south-west London.
> Twenty-four months ago she was considered too unstable to be released after she tried to get her restricted prisoner status downgraded. Mr Justice Knowles denied permission for her to seek a judicial review after he heard she had fantasised about murdering another inmate. He wrote in his judgement: “She disclosed thoughts of wanting to murder another resident by splitting her head open with a flask and throwing her down the stairs to snap her neck.”
> At an assessment centre she tried to strangle two nurses and, while in the former Bullwood Hall young offender’s institute in Hockley, Essex, for the second attack, she began bragging about killing Katie on the phone to relatives and in prison diary entries, which showed she got sexual excitement from the murder.
One entry read: “I wish I could kill you again. I promise I’d make you suffer more. Your terrified screams turn me on.” Police also found that Carr had a history of cruelty to animals and once decapitated a dog with a spade. TV criminologist Prof David Wilson said: “I see nothing in terms of Carr’s institutional behaviour which would warrant parole.”
> Katie’s murder, which involved 32 stab wounds all over the hairdresser’s body, including intimate areas, was so brutal police initially thought they were hunting a man who had carried out a sexually motivated attack and no one was initially caught. Two years after the murder, she attacked a schoolgirl with a knife in Camberley, Surrey.
Did we not learn from the last time a murdering sack of shit that was released and went on a massacre in Borough Market
>Twenty-four months ago she was considered too unstable to be released after she tried to get her restricted prisoner status downgraded
Normally a murderer murders someone they know.
This one? Nah, can never risk or be sure she wont do it again.
Seems like she’s a violent psychopath. Probably best to keep her locked up.
What is actually the point in parole for murderers like this? They have shown themselves to be capable of taking life on a whim. Just leave them in prison until they die, society doesn’t gain anything by having them paroled…In fact society basically has to take a huge gamble in hoping they’re not capable of it again. It’s a completely needless gamble. Leave them inside.
Whilst I’m not a fan of 12 yr old going to prison for life, she sounds mentally unwell and would be safe for herself and everyone around if she were to stay in a mental facility.
Deserves the death penalty, it’s pretty clear her greatest contribution to society could be as a heart transplant, etc.
Surely this is a non-story. She has an upcoming parole hearing, but presumably, given the fact that she’s an unrepentant murderous maniac, the parole board are not going to let her out.