This guy is piece of shit ( and it is not about Ukraine)
Please read the full post before up/down voting or replying.
To be honest, I think this was a mistake. I disagree with Roger Waters, obviously, as does virtually everyone else. However:
1. What differentiates us from them is a commitment to free speech and democracy. This should not be blocked by a government agency. I would feel less bad about a private venue, and not bad if no one showed up (boycott).
2. It’s worth reading [his letter](https://rogerwaters.com/open-letter-olena/) and his comments. I disagree with his viewpoint, but it’s not something which should be cancelled from the civic discourse. Indeed, conversations of these types might eventually point ways to save-facing ways to end the war. Aside from revolution in Russia, the best possible outcome I can see to this is that Russia gets something symbolic, Putin flies a victory flag, and Ukraine gets its territory back and financial compensation (perhaps framed in some face-saving way like “foreign aid” rather than “reparations”)
3. It gives a lot of ammunition to Russian propaganda. We want to discredit, rather than censor, Russian perspectives. Russian propaganda is painting us all as brainwashed, and this doesn’t help.
I view each sanction, weapons donation, etc. strategically: I’d like the killing to stop, and for Ukraine to get it’s territory back. Does the action forward that aim?
I don’t think this one does.
What Ukraine really needs most right now are main battle tanks, aircraft, long-range artillery, and longer-range missiles.
What I wish we did was:
* Dramatically step up military aid to Ukraine
* Scale back sanctions on anything cultural (e.g. media, entertainment, education)
* Tighten sanctions on anything which can help Russia build arms (e.g. via trade policy with India and China). Anyone who sends anything electronic to Russia ought to face at least some economic consequences.
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Good; that thick cunt can get tae fuck.
This guy is piece of shit ( and it is not about Ukraine)
Please read the full post before up/down voting or replying.
To be honest, I think this was a mistake. I disagree with Roger Waters, obviously, as does virtually everyone else. However:
1. What differentiates us from them is a commitment to free speech and democracy. This should not be blocked by a government agency. I would feel less bad about a private venue, and not bad if no one showed up (boycott).
2. It’s worth reading [his letter](https://rogerwaters.com/open-letter-olena/) and his comments. I disagree with his viewpoint, but it’s not something which should be cancelled from the civic discourse. Indeed, conversations of these types might eventually point ways to save-facing ways to end the war. Aside from revolution in Russia, the best possible outcome I can see to this is that Russia gets something symbolic, Putin flies a victory flag, and Ukraine gets its territory back and financial compensation (perhaps framed in some face-saving way like “foreign aid” rather than “reparations”)
3. It gives a lot of ammunition to Russian propaganda. We want to discredit, rather than censor, Russian perspectives. Russian propaganda is painting us all as brainwashed, and this doesn’t help.
I view each sanction, weapons donation, etc. strategically: I’d like the killing to stop, and for Ukraine to get it’s territory back. Does the action forward that aim?
I don’t think this one does.
What Ukraine really needs most right now are main battle tanks, aircraft, long-range artillery, and longer-range missiles.
What I wish we did was:
* Dramatically step up military aid to Ukraine
* Scale back sanctions on anything cultural (e.g. media, entertainment, education)
* Tighten sanctions on anything which can help Russia build arms (e.g. via trade policy with India and China). Anyone who sends anything electronic to Russia ought to face at least some economic consequences.