Ireland are second worst to date in the EU for shielding households and businesses from the energy crisis. (/drinks in downvotes from the usual FF/FG shills with a lovely cup of tea)

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  1. We are about to launch a frickin 10 billion Euro budget tomorrow. Presumably that’s not included in this “infographic”, the source of which you haven’t mentioned?

  2. Nice cherry-picked graph which doesn’t say *anything* about actual prices.

    https://www.energypriceindex.com/price-data

    If you have a look at the August numbers, Ireland’s in the lower half of retail electricity costs PPS, and we’re one of the lowest in Europe for gas.

    And that’s *before* any further measures to be announced tomorrow.

  3. How do you expect do debate with people if you’ve already poisoned the well and called your potential opponents “shills”. You’re not interested in serious debate, but more into name calling and whinging about being downvoted.. Utter state of this sub sometimes.

  4. As noted in the replies, some measures have been included fir other countries but not Ireland (e.g. VAT reductions and public transport fare cuts).

    Getting data of this nature to be consistent across countries is a real pain in the ass.

    Not to mention, the obvious looming budget.

  5. in all fairness ireland is probably is one of the best states in the eu for gas security as we don’t import any from russia, same with oil, we import as much from russia as we import from nigeria, which is a tiny amount

  6. I’m a SF voter but tbf we need less protecting than many of those EU countries. People are definitely feeling the squeeze and could do with a dig out but other countries have been affected far worse and as such needed more government intervention

  7. We need a clear incentive to cut down on usage tbf.

    Fuel economy should be at the top of people’s minds when buying a car. Cut out a holiday and insulate the house instead etc.

    If the government just shields the population from the effects of energy price increases why would you change your habits.

  8. People are talking about how the budget isn’t announced yet but I think that’s a good thing. Depending on how often this is updated, we will have a point of reference to hoe bad it was once the new measures are implemented (they will take time).

  9. This graph is stupid and your bracketed comment comes off as very smug when you don’t even identify the units. Do you seriously think we want to be more like Romania/Greece and less like Sweden/Finland?

  10. >(/drinks in downvotes from the usual FF/FG shills with a lovely cup of tea)

    If I ever get to the point where I start taking the internet this seriously I’d want sectioned

  11. So questioning data etc means one is a fg shill? This is the sort of toxic narrative that is destryoing discorse everywhere. Well done

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