It is mental that my vote in two years time will be defined not by the party I am attracted to, but by the one that repels me the least. Labour should walk-in the next election but Starma keeps pulling shit like this.
Ooh it’s time for another purge.
Starmer trying to throw the election
Has the Labour party gone more than a week without doing something to alienate its base since Starmer became leader?
Jesus, endorsing PR was enough to make me forgive Starmer for all the other bullshit, and lock in my vote.
He’s really doing everything by he can to make sure the left are thoroughly alienated from the party.
Expulsion for liking a tweet from before an organisation was proscribed seems really fucking iffy when you have actual MPs that have liked and retweeted some utter shit and had no punishments.
Neither Tories or Labour want PR. It will take power from them, and give it to smaller parties.
Take this with a massive pince of salt. For a sub that rightly doesn’t trust sources like The Mail you sure are quick to believe shit posted on any old blog.
There isn’t evidence these people were denied entry because of a PR motion. The content of the article doesn’t offer any. Instead just saying they were in the headline which everyone here is now assuming is true because it’s in the title.
The PR motion isn’t even binding anyway.
If the Tories actually win in 2024 the scoresheet should show a Starmer own goal.
Ahh, imagine if the labour put as much effort into fighting the tories as they do into fighting Labour Party
The Labour Party have always been against PR.
It would destroy them (and the Tories too).
The only way we get electoral reform is if the SNP/Lib Dems have got a Labour minority gov by the balls after the next election.
Labour majority – forget any meaningful change on anything.
I don’t get why Labour don’t want PR. Surely it gives them a better chance of beating the Tories
Loving all the people for whom skawkbox.org’s unverified report with no evidence is the final straw that’s making them not be able to support Starmer. Really exceptional critical thinking skills on show here.
“Quit it with this stupid PR idea! It’ll kill us dead!”
Are two expulsions (two tweets cited in the report) really enough to be classed as a wave?
Strange its left wingers (in the labour party context) trying to get through PR here, the article seems to imply they’re mixing it with other stuff?
Looking at this from the article for instance paints more of a negative picture of those expelled than the party-
Labour under the control of the hard right? Seriously. Fucking black and white world view morons. Thats the kind of shit that gave us brexit. Which they probably supported anyway so….
A more representative House of Commons? No thanks.
I like my politics like I like the economy, broken beyond repair, with the rich getting richer at my expense.
Is labour trying to be unpopular? I don’t understand anymore.
I know PR wont benefit any of the major parties, but everything I’ve read from labour for the past year just pisses me off.
I think that the time of this item is a bit biased.
‘…dragged towards proportional representation…’ is where I switched off.
I’m sure he will win the next GE, how couldn’t he vs Truss?
But Labour won’t be getting my vote.
Can’t hear the letters P & R without thinking of Absolutely Fabulous (*”What do you mean what do I do darling? I’m in PR..PR darling, I PR things..”*) In fact, Patsy & Edina are -retrospectively- possibly a good metaphor for todays politics. Patsy on the right leeching the shit out of everything, Edi on the opposite bench and Saffi as a kind of LibDem headless chicken bit part.
Quelle surprise. The Lab RW are terrified of PR because it would ostensibly end their death grip on the party, not to mention the likelihood of destroying the party itself, as they would be forced to fight for votes based on policies as opposed to ‘not the Tories’, which is anathema to them. Considering you can put a cigarette paper between the 2 parties and the fact that Starmer’s polling lower than Trussolini with regard to trustworthiness with the economy, it’s only a matter of time before Labour implodes anyway, imo.
Christ almighty… The victim card being played in full.
I gave up reading when we got to the bit describing the party as under the control of the “Hard Right”.
In short, this is Skwawkbox having the same tantrum they’ve had every week since Corbyn failed miserably.
This is shameful. The party shouldn’t be doing this.
People need to understand that PR is fundamentally not in the interest of the Labour Party. Why would the second largest party support a motion that would massively dilute their vote? I want it and most left wing people should want it too, but the Labour leader is always going to do what they have to to protect the Labour Party; that’s one of their core responsibilities.
God I’m too sad and tired to deal with this. The next few years aren’t going to be great are they?
If I were Corbyn, I’d be defecting to the Greens and taking my Momentum buddies along with me.
Had high hopes for Starmer but he’s just a Tory-lite tosspot who spends more time infighting with his own party than acting as real opposition. Fact that it took multiple misconduct scandals, widespread corruption, national insurance hikes, a cost-of-living crisis and energy bills soaring to poverty-stricking levels for Starmer to gain a lead is baffling. Meanwhile Starmer has damn near bankrupted the party by expelling leftists and turning union support away just to appease our media mogul oligopoly.
Any other leader would be 20 points ahead of this current clown fiesta, and I mean that.
Dammit we’re assholes and we’re gonna stay that way and there ain’t nuthin you can do about it!
Just back from an enough is enough rally. Even though Zarah Sultana was a speaker, it was all largely anti labour (in its current state) throughout. I’ll still vote for them, but I won’t be happy doing so
It would be a better choice to not talk about PR, but then implement it as soon as they are in government.
There would be no return to Tory rule with PR and that should be Labours main aim.
I have nothing but contempt for these people.
Labour members don’t exist in a vacuum and of all the main political parties, are the most rooted jn the general public. They are nurses, teachers, doctors, hospitality workers. They just want a better life and aome hope. Sure, they are to the left of the general public on many issues but not out of step economically. They have been treated with disdain by the leadership who seem to be completely corrupt and uninterested in engaging with real issues.
Neither of the two main political parties are worthy of anyones votes. I want them both gone.
Why are people linking to a blog written by a proven liar?
the unions need to jointly tell labour to support pr or lose all union funding.
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It is mental that my vote in two years time will be defined not by the party I am attracted to, but by the one that repels me the least. Labour should walk-in the next election but Starma keeps pulling shit like this.
Ooh it’s time for another purge.
Starmer trying to throw the election
Has the Labour party gone more than a week without doing something to alienate its base since Starmer became leader?
Jesus, endorsing PR was enough to make me forgive Starmer for all the other bullshit, and lock in my vote.
He’s really doing everything by he can to make sure the left are thoroughly alienated from the party.
Expulsion for liking a tweet from before an organisation was proscribed seems really fucking iffy when you have actual MPs that have liked and retweeted some utter shit and had no punishments.
Neither Tories or Labour want PR. It will take power from them, and give it to smaller parties.
Take this with a massive pince of salt. For a sub that rightly doesn’t trust sources like The Mail you sure are quick to believe shit posted on any old blog.
This blog is run by one guy who really doesn’t like Starmer. They [published an article](https://skwawkbox.org/2022/07/13/exclusive-starmer-must-come-clean-as-sources-insist-beergate-fine-pulled-by-chief-constable-under-pressure/) claiming Durham Police were going to fine Starmer and suggested they were pressed not to do so. as well as generally pushing stories for him to be fined.
There isn’t evidence these people were denied entry because of a PR motion. The content of the article doesn’t offer any. Instead just saying they were in the headline which everyone here is now assuming is true because it’s in the title.
The PR motion isn’t even binding anyway.
If the Tories actually win in 2024 the scoresheet should show a Starmer own goal.
Ahh, imagine if the labour put as much effort into fighting the tories as they do into fighting Labour Party
The Labour Party have always been against PR.
It would destroy them (and the Tories too).
The only way we get electoral reform is if the SNP/Lib Dems have got a Labour minority gov by the balls after the next election.
Labour majority – forget any meaningful change on anything.
I don’t get why Labour don’t want PR. Surely it gives them a better chance of beating the Tories
Loving all the people for whom skawkbox.org’s unverified report with no evidence is the final straw that’s making them not be able to support Starmer. Really exceptional critical thinking skills on show here.
“Quit it with this stupid PR idea! It’ll kill us dead!”
Are two expulsions (two tweets cited in the report) really enough to be classed as a wave?
Strange its left wingers (in the labour party context) trying to get through PR here, the article seems to imply they’re mixing it with other stuff?
Looking at this from the article for instance paints more of a negative picture of those expelled than the party-
[https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/IMG-20220922-WA0001.jpg?resize=726%2C1024&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/IMG-20220922-WA0001.jpg?resize=726%2C1024&ssl=1)
Labour under the control of the hard right? Seriously. Fucking black and white world view morons. Thats the kind of shit that gave us brexit. Which they probably supported anyway so….
A more representative House of Commons? No thanks.
I like my politics like I like the economy, broken beyond repair, with the rich getting richer at my expense.
Is labour trying to be unpopular? I don’t understand anymore.
I know PR wont benefit any of the major parties, but everything I’ve read from labour for the past year just pisses me off.
I think that the time of this item is a bit biased.
‘…dragged towards proportional representation…’ is where I switched off.
I’m sure he will win the next GE, how couldn’t he vs Truss?
But Labour won’t be getting my vote.
Can’t hear the letters P & R without thinking of Absolutely Fabulous (*”What do you mean what do I do darling? I’m in PR..PR darling, I PR things..”*) In fact, Patsy & Edina are -retrospectively- possibly a good metaphor for todays politics. Patsy on the right leeching the shit out of everything, Edi on the opposite bench and Saffi as a kind of LibDem headless chicken bit part.
Quelle surprise. The Lab RW are terrified of PR because it would ostensibly end their death grip on the party, not to mention the likelihood of destroying the party itself, as they would be forced to fight for votes based on policies as opposed to ‘not the Tories’, which is anathema to them. Considering you can put a cigarette paper between the 2 parties and the fact that Starmer’s polling lower than Trussolini with regard to trustworthiness with the economy, it’s only a matter of time before Labour implodes anyway, imo.
Christ almighty… The victim card being played in full.
I gave up reading when we got to the bit describing the party as under the control of the “Hard Right”.
In short, this is Skwawkbox having the same tantrum they’ve had every week since Corbyn failed miserably.
This is shameful. The party shouldn’t be doing this.
People need to understand that PR is fundamentally not in the interest of the Labour Party. Why would the second largest party support a motion that would massively dilute their vote? I want it and most left wing people should want it too, but the Labour leader is always going to do what they have to to protect the Labour Party; that’s one of their core responsibilities.
God I’m too sad and tired to deal with this. The next few years aren’t going to be great are they?
If I were Corbyn, I’d be defecting to the Greens and taking my Momentum buddies along with me.
Had high hopes for Starmer but he’s just a Tory-lite tosspot who spends more time infighting with his own party than acting as real opposition. Fact that it took multiple misconduct scandals, widespread corruption, national insurance hikes, a cost-of-living crisis and energy bills soaring to poverty-stricking levels for Starmer to gain a lead is baffling. Meanwhile Starmer has damn near bankrupted the party by expelling leftists and turning union support away just to appease our media mogul oligopoly.
Any other leader would be 20 points ahead of this current clown fiesta, and I mean that.
Dammit we’re assholes and we’re gonna stay that way and there ain’t nuthin you can do about it!
Just back from an enough is enough rally. Even though Zarah Sultana was a speaker, it was all largely anti labour (in its current state) throughout. I’ll still vote for them, but I won’t be happy doing so
It would be a better choice to not talk about PR, but then implement it as soon as they are in government.
There would be no return to Tory rule with PR and that should be Labours main aim.
I have nothing but contempt for these people.
Labour members don’t exist in a vacuum and of all the main political parties, are the most rooted jn the general public. They are nurses, teachers, doctors, hospitality workers. They just want a better life and aome hope. Sure, they are to the left of the general public on many issues but not out of step economically. They have been treated with disdain by the leadership who seem to be completely corrupt and uninterested in engaging with real issues.
Neither of the two main political parties are worthy of anyones votes. I want them both gone.
Why are people linking to a blog written by a proven liar?
the unions need to jointly tell labour to support pr or lose all union funding.