Funnily enough that this article doesn’t mention the protest is against the temple hosting a Hindutva speaker who’s very controversial, and some would describe as a hate speaker.
Religious extremism should have been tackled a long long time ago.
By being too tolerant, we have allowed intolerance to breed.
If you are highly tolerant of the intolerant, then you become intolerant by proxy.
It makes me wonder, which religion has the most dangerous extremist fringe? Only one way to find out…
If the EDL were doing the same but switch the roles around and I’m sure the police response would be much different.
Just so we’re aware, “Allahu Akbar” means “God is the Greatest”, not “I’m about to do some terrorism”
What’s actually caused all this in the Midlands lately? Some of the news articles in the past few days have been so vague.
Unfortunately if your white British in 2022 your not allowed a point of view as it’ll be quickly followed by the inevitable – “ Your a racist/bigot”. The community leaders of these faiths need to sit around a table and sort this out themselves.
I have to be wary of the comments on reddit, regarding topics like these
a lot of them are by Indian, they swarm the place and upvote there own propaganda (they have a similar programme to what Israel do)
never base your information on comments is what I’ve learnt do your own research and then form your own opinion from that
No smoke without fire… What did the Hindutva expect to happen if they go around chanting anti Muslims slogans?
I’ve been reading twitter on this. Seems like all is not what it seems.
What’s happened? There’s been clashes between them all week in Brum
Look, if you are living in this country then you leave your bullshit prejudices at the border. You don’t come around kicking off and disturbing the peace. Don’t bring your racism and aggression here and don’t be dragging people into it.
It might fly in your own country but it doesn’t fly here.
If you are showing extremist tendencies then you should be on the next plane out of here.
Why does the building look like a kkk member standing next to a dopey alien.
Surprised that this thread has not been locked nor deleted yet.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to protest against speakers we disagree with. I thought all of you were up in arms about the protestors against the monarchy being arrested, or is protest only allowed for White and Black people to do? Anyway, my personal opinion is that everybody needs to calm the fuck down. But just as we started taking on radical Islamists after 9/11, I do think it’s important that we pay closer attention to RSS and VHP infiltration in this country. And this is coming from a British Indian who doesn’t want to see what’s happening in India to happen over here.
This shit needs to stop. This isn’t India. This isn’t Pakistan. This isn’t some Middle Easrtern theocracy.
The police need to get a grip, get in there and start dragging people to jail.
If people actually with an open heart looked into what Hindutva is about, they would be shocked and utterly disgusted.
Lots of people hating on extremism and sometimes on straight Islam. Fine. But remember that they are in fact protesting, which is their democratic right.
The RSS are a Hindu fascist movement modelled on the Nazis and the Italian fascist movement of the 30s. They have been terrorising and killing Muslims in India, using deranged conspiracy theories to justify their violence. Often they will just mob a Muslim neighbourhood and murder with impunity.
They started this round of conflict. And these Muslims are protesting one of their speakers for urging violence against them.
That being said, fuck fundamentalist Islamist and all extremist religious ideologies.
I see the headline, and the source, and wonder how many uneducated people are chomping at the bit to jump on Muslims in the comments. I wasn’t disappointed. But also… I was.
how many of these rioters are indians on visas? I don’t think many of them are British Asians from settled communities. This seems like a recent import from India.
From what I’ve pieced together from various sources, some right wing Hindus tried instigating some drama and they’ve bitten off a bit more than they could chew.
The right wing Hindus in question are not settled populations, but rather recent migrants to the UK. (Also worth noting that in the case of Leicester, the Hindu community is basically entirely Gujurati but they came over from East Africa, having moved there from India before India was divvied up. Due to the long absence from mainland India, they are in my experience fairly uninvolved with the goings on in India which makes it even more appalling that they’re having to deal with any fall out from this rubbish).
Condemning Hindu extremists does not automatically mean condoning the actions of any Muslim groups acting in retaliation, however, a part of me feels like the saying “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” was designed for situations like this.
Finally, it seems like a lot of Muslim people are clued onto the fact that it’s not all Hindus, so hopefully they act on that knowledge and uninvolved Hindus aren’t dragged into this any further.
Not Hindu or Muslim. But have seen how Hindu extremists twist other minorities – eg calling Sikhs terrorists! Don’t pity either side tbh
Yep, but this headline comes from an Indian (hindutva) news source.
I note that earlier this week there were extremist [pro-BJP Hindu riots targeting Muslims in Leicester](https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-leicester-riots-civil-war-hindu-nationalism). Which now look as if they may have been incited by the Indian government, who (for those who don’t track it) is run by aggressive Hindu supremacists.
Upshot: the picture is extremely murky but it looks like outside forces are playing “let’s you and him fight” inside the UK, and the British (and US) media — of which anglophone Reddit is part — are primed to instantly assume muslims are the culprits.
Hindu here. Extremism of any form has no place here in the UK. Many of my friends are Muslim and many of them are Hindus. This whole thing is a damn shame and needs to be dealt with swiftly and without violence. In this day and age, who would’ve thought.
Imagine being that religious and your God doing nothing to help
Actually reading the article, this seems to be what happens when you mix Football Hooliganism (although it’s cricket here) with Religious tension. Hardly a fun combo.
Ah Religion, at it again 🙄
I wonder if they know how utterly absurd this all looks to a non-religious from the outside
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Funnily enough that this article doesn’t mention the protest is against the temple hosting a Hindutva speaker who’s very controversial, and some would describe as a hate speaker.
Religious extremism should have been tackled a long long time ago.
By being too tolerant, we have allowed intolerance to breed.
If you are highly tolerant of the intolerant, then you become intolerant by proxy.
It makes me wonder, which religion has the most dangerous extremist fringe? Only one way to find out…
If the EDL were doing the same but switch the roles around and I’m sure the police response would be much different.
Just so we’re aware, “Allahu Akbar” means “God is the Greatest”, not “I’m about to do some terrorism”
What’s actually caused all this in the Midlands lately? Some of the news articles in the past few days have been so vague.
Unfortunately if your white British in 2022 your not allowed a point of view as it’ll be quickly followed by the inevitable – “ Your a racist/bigot”. The community leaders of these faiths need to sit around a table and sort this out themselves.
I have to be wary of the comments on reddit, regarding topics like these
a lot of them are by Indian, they swarm the place and upvote there own propaganda (they have a similar programme to what Israel do)
never base your information on comments is what I’ve learnt do your own research and then form your own opinion from that
No smoke without fire… What did the Hindutva expect to happen if they go around chanting anti Muslims slogans?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/21/wednesday-briefing-whats-behind-violent-clashes-in-leicester
I’ve been reading twitter on this. Seems like all is not what it seems.
What’s happened? There’s been clashes between them all week in Brum
Look, if you are living in this country then you leave your bullshit prejudices at the border. You don’t come around kicking off and disturbing the peace. Don’t bring your racism and aggression here and don’t be dragging people into it.
It might fly in your own country but it doesn’t fly here.
If you are showing extremist tendencies then you should be on the next plane out of here.
Why does the building look like a kkk member standing next to a dopey alien.
[seems complicated](https://www.mend.org.uk/hindutva-inspired-provocation/)
Surprised that this thread has not been locked nor deleted yet.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to protest against speakers we disagree with. I thought all of you were up in arms about the protestors against the monarchy being arrested, or is protest only allowed for White and Black people to do? Anyway, my personal opinion is that everybody needs to calm the fuck down. But just as we started taking on radical Islamists after 9/11, I do think it’s important that we pay closer attention to RSS and VHP infiltration in this country. And this is coming from a British Indian who doesn’t want to see what’s happening in India to happen over here.
This shit needs to stop. This isn’t India. This isn’t Pakistan. This isn’t some Middle Easrtern theocracy.
The police need to get a grip, get in there and start dragging people to jail.
If people actually with an open heart looked into what Hindutva is about, they would be shocked and utterly disgusted.
Lots of people hating on extremism and sometimes on straight Islam. Fine. But remember that they are in fact protesting, which is their democratic right.
The RSS are a Hindu fascist movement modelled on the Nazis and the Italian fascist movement of the 30s. They have been terrorising and killing Muslims in India, using deranged conspiracy theories to justify their violence. Often they will just mob a Muslim neighbourhood and murder with impunity.
They started this round of conflict. And these Muslims are protesting one of their speakers for urging violence against them.
That being said, fuck fundamentalist Islamist and all extremist religious ideologies.
I see the headline, and the source, and wonder how many uneducated people are chomping at the bit to jump on Muslims in the comments. I wasn’t disappointed. But also… I was.
how many of these rioters are indians on visas? I don’t think many of them are British Asians from settled communities. This seems like a recent import from India.
From what I’ve pieced together from various sources, some right wing Hindus tried instigating some drama and they’ve bitten off a bit more than they could chew.
The right wing Hindus in question are not settled populations, but rather recent migrants to the UK. (Also worth noting that in the case of Leicester, the Hindu community is basically entirely Gujurati but they came over from East Africa, having moved there from India before India was divvied up. Due to the long absence from mainland India, they are in my experience fairly uninvolved with the goings on in India which makes it even more appalling that they’re having to deal with any fall out from this rubbish).
Condemning Hindu extremists does not automatically mean condoning the actions of any Muslim groups acting in retaliation, however, a part of me feels like the saying “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” was designed for situations like this.
Finally, it seems like a lot of Muslim people are clued onto the fact that it’s not all Hindus, so hopefully they act on that knowledge and uninvolved Hindus aren’t dragged into this any further.
Not Hindu or Muslim. But have seen how Hindu extremists twist other minorities – eg calling Sikhs terrorists! Don’t pity either side tbh
Yep, but this headline comes from an Indian (hindutva) news source.
I note that earlier this week there were extremist [pro-BJP Hindu riots targeting Muslims in Leicester](https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-leicester-riots-civil-war-hindu-nationalism). Which now look as if they may have been incited by the Indian government, who (for those who don’t track it) is run by aggressive Hindu supremacists.
Upshot: the picture is extremely murky but it looks like outside forces are playing “let’s you and him fight” inside the UK, and the British (and US) media — of which anglophone Reddit is part — are primed to instantly assume muslims are the culprits.
Hindu here. Extremism of any form has no place here in the UK. Many of my friends are Muslim and many of them are Hindus. This whole thing is a damn shame and needs to be dealt with swiftly and without violence. In this day and age, who would’ve thought.
Imagine being that religious and your God doing nothing to help
Actually reading the article, this seems to be what happens when you mix Football Hooliganism (although it’s cricket here) with Religious tension. Hardly a fun combo.
Ah Religion, at it again 🙄
I wonder if they know how utterly absurd this all looks to a non-religious from the outside