The balance in Northern Ireland has tipped

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  1. It’s undoubtedly a significant milestone and another body blow for unionism which has made blunder after blunder for the past six years.

    The big question for unionism now is how much is it willing to change in order to protect the union. Because they way theyve been acting for the past decade has just pushed more and more on-the-fence/agnostic people towards reunification.

    If they had any sense they’d have accepted the first Brexit deal, accepted an Irish Language Act and taken the fire out of the drive for unity. Instead they pushed everyone into a corner where they had to make a call on reunification.

    Are they even capable of change? And if they are, is it already too late?

  2. “Protestant Genocide!!!”

    I just know that map is going to be on loyalist whatsapp with some similar title in the near future.

  3. Os that religious war thing still a thing in Ireland? (I am not from Ireland)

    I thought people have outgrown that by now.

    Edit: ok, I get downvoted a lot. But maybe someone explains the current state of this conflict?

  4. As someone who doesn’t know much about history, browsing wikipedia is interesting.

    I wish I could understand it all and take it all in.

    One thing I don’t get is that it says Ulster was the most resistant to the English but turned out to be the most British. Is it because after the 9 years war the Irish landowners fled and the brits took it all and planted protestants?

    The other 3 provinces were less resistant but they still had anti english sentiment right and slowly over time became more anti english as time went on ?

  5. But do they want to give up their free healthcare, free shipping from UK sellers and switch to a weaker currency?

  6. A lot different to UDA’s “Doomsday” 1994 plan for repartition (approved of by Sammy Wilson) [http://ulstersdoomed.blogspot.com/2009/06/partition-and-repartition-part-4-udas.html](http://ulstersdoomed.blogspot.com/2009/06/partition-and-repartition-part-4-udas.html)

    >The UDA’s intentions for the Catholic population left in their new, truncated, Northern Ireland were sinister. The Catholic population left on the ‘Protestant’ side of the Orange Line was to be “expelled, nullified or interned”. ‘Nullification’ was a euphemism for massacre. Those ‘interned’ were to be used, effectively, as hostages or ‘useful bargaining chips’ in possible negotiations.
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    >Sammy Wilson *[at the time that blog was written]*, a DUP MP, Belfast City councillor and from today, Minister of Finance in the Northern Ireland Executive described the UDA’s plans for mass murder and ethnic cleansing as a “very valuable return to reality” and that it showed “that some loyalist paramilitaries are looking ahead and contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity”

  7. Curious as to what data was used for this. The 2011 census has very localized data [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Northern_Ireland_–_religion_or_religion_brought_up_in_%28Christianity%3B_2011%29.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Northern_Ireland_–_religion_or_religion_brought_up_in_%28Christianity%3B_2011%29.png)

    And I don’t think it will have changed substantially since then. Less red but otherwise still large Protestant majority in the Craigavon-Lisburn-Banbridge triangle and east Derry

  8. Scott Moore is a nationalist from a protestant family and is against repartition, but we’re going to hear genuine calls for repartition in the upcoming years and that notion needs to be immediately shut down. We can’t let history repeat itself and the more reactionary & supremacist elements of unionism can’t be rewarded. They’re such loyal and proud Ulstermen they would mutilate Ulster all over again.

  9. Watching Jamie Bryson lose his marbles on Twitter has been amusing but by Christ I feel bad for normal people in the North who are definitely going to have to put up with heightened madness.

  10. To be fair I know a fair few catholics from the North who wouldn’t vote for a united ireland. Most of them generally cite the NHS as being the reason they stay.

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