The current Tory government are not interested in tackling ANY societal problem unless they can profit from it. Meanwhile conditions for the average person are getting worse and worse that they can see no other way out. Mental health services in this country are so difficult to access that they may as well not exist.
The Tories have doubled the national debt in 12 years and yet people can not access any services of any kind. Where has the money gone?
The Tories ,in 12 years, have spent £78,000 for every single tax payer in the country. But there is no mental health services, no dentists, nothing works, you can’t get any help.
So where has the money gone??? They gutted all services, of every kind. But spent DOUBLE!!!
But if you drive through affluent areas of London, the Cotswolds, West Oxfordshire, go to any quaint little Cornish holiday home village: you’ll see the brand new Audis and Mercedes, you’ll see the second homes, and all the skips outside from the new kitchens getting changed every 3 years. You’ll hear the pumps heating the pools and you’ll hear the guffaws from the gardens.
That’s where the money has gone. It’s gone to their mates. There are perhaps 250,000 upper class Tory families in this country that have pilfered and asset stripped the nation. They have it all. They all sit at Soho farmhouse type establishments, doing coke and laughing about how they managed to steal an entire nations future.
It’s time to take it all back. It’s time that these Tory vampires started worrying about their futures, not about whether the Farrow and Ball will match their vision boards.
I got the news today my friends dad has just committed suicide after recently losing his grandad
Perhaps because much like dentists, there is no where to go unless you seek private therapy
It’s a load easier to say we need a policy, we need more money thrown at the problem. The reality is that a lot of these men bottle things up and see reaching out for support as weakness. Or worse, get stigmatised by their peers. There will no doubt the usual anti-Tory angry mob in here before long. But the problem is more complex and more sensitive that a simple Tory-bad message. Yes, mental health services are chronically underfunded. But that’s only a part of the problem.
Someone is going to lose their shit, cap some politicians and then cap themselves. I can feel it in my bones.
From the article “All local areas now have suicide prevention plans addressing the specific needs of their populations, including targeting men on lower incomes and outreach activity in settings such as pubs, gyms and football clubs”.
Any man who is feeling suicidal due to lack of money worries, would not be able to afford to go into these sort of places, so what little support available is poorly targeted.
Does anyone know why male suicide is worse now than in previous generations?
I’m not suicidal right now but have been in the past. I tried talking to my mum about my current concerns and was brushed aside so easily. Her words were “I’m not worried about that, so why are you?” She is the only person I have to talk to and that is all I got from her. I have tried therapists in the past and got a similar response. It all comes back to feeling worthless and undervalued in life, yet you open up and are told to suck it up. I don’t want or expect to be important in the scheme of things but feeling like you have no place in society is not nice and something a lot of men can probably relate to (even if we will not admit it out loud).
Women’s rights and feminism has been fantastic for women, their role in society has changed significantly since 1900. The problem is that nothing has really changed for men in the same way. Women were told they could have it all: they could be a working wife and mother, or just one; they were free to do as they chose. Men are seen as worthless if they are not the provider, not by everyone but society as a whole still holds those views. A lot of men are lost but no one is taking it seriously because men are keeping it all locked inside until it is all too late.
Honestly, I feel like (many) men are seen as the enemy in society. These days women are constantly promoted as being empowered and I see jobs such as train drivers asking specifically for female employees or big businesses giving out specialist training programs based on gender. But on the flip side of the coin, I see men getting demonized at every given oppertunity unless they are financially well off.
Some of this is obviously generalization, but the avarage man these days gets nothing in terms of support or understanding. If he’s not sucessful society deems him worthless.
Is it really such a surprise under those circumstances that male suiside ratings are out of control?
Hell, the media hardly even talks about it….
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Reeaaallyy??
Who wouldve thought?
Don’t worry, we should just continue suggesting men “open up and seek help” with no directive of how and where to do such thing and when realising this, just resort to some platitudes of it getting better and them being worthwhile and loveable and it’ll all fizzle… pardon me, continue.
There we go, sorted 😁
The structural and societal issues that affect men specifically are often either not in the public conscious, are rooted in “the system” or are glossed over with talking about “toxic masculinity” which has turned into a singson of buzzword regurgitation that helps almost nobody.
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The current Tory government are not interested in tackling ANY societal problem unless they can profit from it. Meanwhile conditions for the average person are getting worse and worse that they can see no other way out. Mental health services in this country are so difficult to access that they may as well not exist.
The Tories have doubled the national debt in 12 years and yet people can not access any services of any kind. Where has the money gone?
The Tories ,in 12 years, have spent £78,000 for every single tax payer in the country. But there is no mental health services, no dentists, nothing works, you can’t get any help.
So where has the money gone??? They gutted all services, of every kind. But spent DOUBLE!!!
But if you drive through affluent areas of London, the Cotswolds, West Oxfordshire, go to any quaint little Cornish holiday home village: you’ll see the brand new Audis and Mercedes, you’ll see the second homes, and all the skips outside from the new kitchens getting changed every 3 years. You’ll hear the pumps heating the pools and you’ll hear the guffaws from the gardens.
That’s where the money has gone. It’s gone to their mates. There are perhaps 250,000 upper class Tory families in this country that have pilfered and asset stripped the nation. They have it all. They all sit at Soho farmhouse type establishments, doing coke and laughing about how they managed to steal an entire nations future.
It’s time to take it all back. It’s time that these Tory vampires started worrying about their futures, not about whether the Farrow and Ball will match their vision boards.
I got the news today my friends dad has just committed suicide after recently losing his grandad
Perhaps because much like dentists, there is no where to go unless you seek private therapy
It’s a load easier to say we need a policy, we need more money thrown at the problem. The reality is that a lot of these men bottle things up and see reaching out for support as weakness. Or worse, get stigmatised by their peers. There will no doubt the usual anti-Tory angry mob in here before long. But the problem is more complex and more sensitive that a simple Tory-bad message. Yes, mental health services are chronically underfunded. But that’s only a part of the problem.
Someone is going to lose their shit, cap some politicians and then cap themselves. I can feel it in my bones.
From the article “All local areas now have suicide prevention plans addressing the specific needs of their populations, including targeting men on lower incomes and outreach activity in settings such as pubs, gyms and football clubs”.
Any man who is feeling suicidal due to lack of money worries, would not be able to afford to go into these sort of places, so what little support available is poorly targeted.
Does anyone know why male suicide is worse now than in previous generations?
I’m not suicidal right now but have been in the past. I tried talking to my mum about my current concerns and was brushed aside so easily. Her words were “I’m not worried about that, so why are you?” She is the only person I have to talk to and that is all I got from her. I have tried therapists in the past and got a similar response. It all comes back to feeling worthless and undervalued in life, yet you open up and are told to suck it up. I don’t want or expect to be important in the scheme of things but feeling like you have no place in society is not nice and something a lot of men can probably relate to (even if we will not admit it out loud).
Women’s rights and feminism has been fantastic for women, their role in society has changed significantly since 1900. The problem is that nothing has really changed for men in the same way. Women were told they could have it all: they could be a working wife and mother, or just one; they were free to do as they chose. Men are seen as worthless if they are not the provider, not by everyone but society as a whole still holds those views. A lot of men are lost but no one is taking it seriously because men are keeping it all locked inside until it is all too late.
Honestly, I feel like (many) men are seen as the enemy in society. These days women are constantly promoted as being empowered and I see jobs such as train drivers asking specifically for female employees or big businesses giving out specialist training programs based on gender. But on the flip side of the coin, I see men getting demonized at every given oppertunity unless they are financially well off.
Some of this is obviously generalization, but the avarage man these days gets nothing in terms of support or understanding. If he’s not sucessful society deems him worthless.
Is it really such a surprise under those circumstances that male suiside ratings are out of control?
Hell, the media hardly even talks about it….
[deleted]
Reeaaallyy??
Who wouldve thought?
Don’t worry, we should just continue suggesting men “open up and seek help” with no directive of how and where to do such thing and when realising this, just resort to some platitudes of it getting better and them being worthwhile and loveable and it’ll all fizzle… pardon me, continue.
There we go, sorted 😁
The structural and societal issues that affect men specifically are often either not in the public conscious, are rooted in “the system” or are glossed over with talking about “toxic masculinity” which has turned into a singson of buzzword regurgitation that helps almost nobody.