Will be interesting to see in a few years whole you complain of another tory majority.
All because a minority in a part wishes to fight it’s own majority.
The UK sure is a melting pot.
*Copied/edited from an earlier post of mine *
The labour far left has lost 2 elections in recent times. You could argue we’re here now because of the their 2019 campaign when they knew Corbyn was toxic but decided “keep calm and carry on” was a winning strategy.
That’s not to say Corbyn was wrong with his policies but just don’t say everything that pops in to your head out loud at this point in time. Read the fucking room!
Can we just get an actual opposition party in here please? There’s serious shit going on in the world and I’d like a choice other than the same old false dichotomy of “rich, nominally right wing pricks vs rich, out of touch leftists”
“When the party we all represent and campaign for every single day turns on its own, and says we don’t want socialists in our party anymore, we didn’t bow down and cower away, we said we’re going to fight,” says the Labour MP for Ilford South, Sam Tarry.
“And we’re going to fight back.”
Jesus christ, Enough. The country isn’t that far left – as keeps being reiterated, historically we’re a country of centrists that are in the grip of populism, and no amount of bitching and whining is going to get every school in the country to bow before the altar of Marxism.
This is the kind of shit that loses elections – they should have the good decency to go and join the SLP if they really believe the movement is that popular, and let the rest of us that desperately want the tories out of power move ahead without obstruction.
Let the dog die for crying out loud.
I know this comes up in other scenarios, but this particular part of the article made me roll my eyes:
>At the start of the event, as crowds amassed in the venue, they sang the name of the Labour MP for Coventry South, Zarah Sultana, to the tune of the White Stripe’s metronomic hit, Seven Nation Army.
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>”Oh, Zarah Sultana,” they chanted, a song once sung about Mr Corbyn.
It irked me seeing guys wearing “CORBYN” Nike tshirts at Glastonbury in the same way it irks me seeing “#BackBoris” in Twitter bios. You can argue that one is more deserved than the other, fair enough. But in both cases it has lead to this false image of infallibility and anyone critical of them is labelled a propagandist. Members of the “Labour Left” continue to disregard elements of the Forde report which are critical of Corbyn in the same way “Boris Backers” claim the former PM did nothing wrong with regards to Pincher or the parties.
The UK is never going to become a socialist nation FFS.
Get a fucking grip
Can the far left just shut up for 2 years so that middle ground labour can win and then when your in power they can throw a few bones that way. Instead be in the same boat forever.
I voted for the guy but I am sick to death of Corbyn supporters.
Either he is incapable of battling the media, incapable of controlling his own party or incapable of winning an election.
Whichever it is, whether you like his policies or not pales into insignificance.
Labour has an actual chance to win in the near future. Shut the fuck up and stop trying to feed the country to the dogs because your favourite politician couldn’t manage to win.
Like I said, they still haven’t quite move that double barrelled shotgun from their foot, it’s still pointed firmly on the toes and there’s still plenty of time for them to fire and reload for a second barrage on the other foot.
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And this is with Truss fucking shit up after Boris already fucked shit up.
Why are the far left even interested in the labour party? I’ll never understand it lol if they want to sabotage a party there’s worse out there in infiltrate than Labour lmao.
The Labour left will have to come to turns with the fact that our next prime minister is Keir Starmer while their candidate of choice got them the worst Labour defeat in decades. And no kicking and screaming will change that.
Sam Tarry was widely hated by constituents, and faced delselection because he’s a twat, a twat who also used his wife and young kids as a prop while having an affair and subsequently ditching them.
After he knew he was being kicked out, he did the picket line interview as a last ditch attempt to be a martyr figure and retain political relevance, trying to make himself unsackable. He wasn’t authorised to give a media interview, gave himself a promotion and made up policy. Of course he was going to get the sack. He did it for attention.
He’s a self serving dickhead and I’m really sick of people giving him airtime or pretending he’s this bastion of socialism
If the collapse of the pound, and the emergence of truss and kwarteng, won’t get people to briefly try to unite, then nothing will.
I’m left wing as they come and I’m pretty happy with a lot of the policies they came out with recently. Do I wish they were more left? Sure. Am I willing to face another 5 years of Tory rule as a result? No because I’m not insane.
Labour left need to fuck off and make their own party and stop damaging the progress labour makes with stupid comments constantly.
The nation doesn’t want nonsense left-wing identity politics, we want equality and fairness.
E – downvote all you like. You’re never getting anywhere near power or government.
Are the people saying that the left need to compromise and get behind the leader for real?
Now the left of Labour gets annoyed.
Where has that annoyance been when Labour in Scotland have been working alongside the Tories for years.
Edinburgh Council is run by a Labour and Tory coalition where Labour even suspended councillors who refused to support this.
>”We are the party of the centre-ground,” Sir Keir said, to a thundering ovation.
I thought that was more the Liberal Democrats’ niche? I still remember the 2015 election where “giving a heart to the Conservatives, and a brain to Labour” (- Nick Clegg) was their whole campaign strategy. Now, I wonder what Labour claiming the dead center as their own means for the Liberal Democrats in the next election.
FFS again with this ridiculous civil war. The labour left had a go at two elections and the result was that the country doesn’t want to go from where we are now to socialist in one sudden jump. Why not just get Kier elected, get some of what you want and move the needle towards a more socialist adgenda?
Or we can just watch while the Tories get in again then put up one lunatic PM after the next without even bothering to hold general elections …
Labour will never win if the far left gets in power within the party. Labour can only win as centre left.
I am ideologically left but I don’t want to see another Tory government.
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Will be interesting to see in a few years whole you complain of another tory majority.
All because a minority in a part wishes to fight it’s own majority.
The UK sure is a melting pot.
*Copied/edited from an earlier post of mine *
The labour far left has lost 2 elections in recent times. You could argue we’re here now because of the their 2019 campaign when they knew Corbyn was toxic but decided “keep calm and carry on” was a winning strategy.
That’s not to say Corbyn was wrong with his policies but just don’t say everything that pops in to your head out loud at this point in time. Read the fucking room!
Can we just get an actual opposition party in here please? There’s serious shit going on in the world and I’d like a choice other than the same old false dichotomy of “rich, nominally right wing pricks vs rich, out of touch leftists”
“When the party we all represent and campaign for every single day turns on its own, and says we don’t want socialists in our party anymore, we didn’t bow down and cower away, we said we’re going to fight,” says the Labour MP for Ilford South, Sam Tarry.
“And we’re going to fight back.”
Jesus christ, Enough. The country isn’t that far left – as keeps being reiterated, historically we’re a country of centrists that are in the grip of populism, and no amount of bitching and whining is going to get every school in the country to bow before the altar of Marxism.
This is the kind of shit that loses elections – they should have the good decency to go and join the SLP if they really believe the movement is that popular, and let the rest of us that desperately want the tories out of power move ahead without obstruction.
Let the dog die for crying out loud.
I know this comes up in other scenarios, but this particular part of the article made me roll my eyes:
>At the start of the event, as crowds amassed in the venue, they sang the name of the Labour MP for Coventry South, Zarah Sultana, to the tune of the White Stripe’s metronomic hit, Seven Nation Army.
>
>”Oh, Zarah Sultana,” they chanted, a song once sung about Mr Corbyn.
It irked me seeing guys wearing “CORBYN” Nike tshirts at Glastonbury in the same way it irks me seeing “#BackBoris” in Twitter bios. You can argue that one is more deserved than the other, fair enough. But in both cases it has lead to this false image of infallibility and anyone critical of them is labelled a propagandist. Members of the “Labour Left” continue to disregard elements of the Forde report which are critical of Corbyn in the same way “Boris Backers” claim the former PM did nothing wrong with regards to Pincher or the parties.
The UK is never going to become a socialist nation FFS.
Get a fucking grip
Can the far left just shut up for 2 years so that middle ground labour can win and then when your in power they can throw a few bones that way. Instead be in the same boat forever.
I voted for the guy but I am sick to death of Corbyn supporters.
Either he is incapable of battling the media, incapable of controlling his own party or incapable of winning an election.
Whichever it is, whether you like his policies or not pales into insignificance.
Labour has an actual chance to win in the near future. Shut the fuck up and stop trying to feed the country to the dogs because your favourite politician couldn’t manage to win.
Like I said, they still haven’t quite move that double barrelled shotgun from their foot, it’s still pointed firmly on the toes and there’s still plenty of time for them to fire and reload for a second barrage on the other foot.
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And this is with Truss fucking shit up after Boris already fucked shit up.
Why are the far left even interested in the labour party? I’ll never understand it lol if they want to sabotage a party there’s worse out there in infiltrate than Labour lmao.
The Labour left will have to come to turns with the fact that our next prime minister is Keir Starmer while their candidate of choice got them the worst Labour defeat in decades. And no kicking and screaming will change that.
Sam Tarry was widely hated by constituents, and faced delselection because he’s a twat, a twat who also used his wife and young kids as a prop while having an affair and subsequently ditching them.
After he knew he was being kicked out, he did the picket line interview as a last ditch attempt to be a martyr figure and retain political relevance, trying to make himself unsackable. He wasn’t authorised to give a media interview, gave himself a promotion and made up policy. Of course he was going to get the sack. He did it for attention.
He’s a self serving dickhead and I’m really sick of people giving him airtime or pretending he’s this bastion of socialism
If the collapse of the pound, and the emergence of truss and kwarteng, won’t get people to briefly try to unite, then nothing will.
I’m left wing as they come and I’m pretty happy with a lot of the policies they came out with recently. Do I wish they were more left? Sure. Am I willing to face another 5 years of Tory rule as a result? No because I’m not insane.
Labour left need to fuck off and make their own party and stop damaging the progress labour makes with stupid comments constantly.
The nation doesn’t want nonsense left-wing identity politics, we want equality and fairness.
E – downvote all you like. You’re never getting anywhere near power or government.
Are the people saying that the left need to compromise and get behind the leader for real?
Now the left of Labour gets annoyed.
Where has that annoyance been when Labour in Scotland have been working alongside the Tories for years.
Edinburgh Council is run by a Labour and Tory coalition where Labour even suspended councillors who refused to support this.
>”We are the party of the centre-ground,” Sir Keir said, to a thundering ovation.
I thought that was more the Liberal Democrats’ niche? I still remember the 2015 election where “giving a heart to the Conservatives, and a brain to Labour” (- Nick Clegg) was their whole campaign strategy. Now, I wonder what Labour claiming the dead center as their own means for the Liberal Democrats in the next election.
FFS again with this ridiculous civil war. The labour left had a go at two elections and the result was that the country doesn’t want to go from where we are now to socialist in one sudden jump. Why not just get Kier elected, get some of what you want and move the needle towards a more socialist adgenda?
Or we can just watch while the Tories get in again then put up one lunatic PM after the next without even bothering to hold general elections …
Labour will never win if the far left gets in power within the party. Labour can only win as centre left.
I am ideologically left but I don’t want to see another Tory government.