Well that’s the case with all EU countries, I was surprised when I knew that Norway offers it for free
Was bound to happen sooner or later. Most countries within the EU have stopped offering free education to non-Eu citizens over the years.
That includes UK.
This is misleading. It’s only a proposed budget for now. It needs to be debated.
its not official and its not the final budget but i doubt it will be changed
Welp, I was saving just for the living expenses alone, well, dreams crushed and good luck to them finding foreign students.
> His logic is that if it’s so cheap or free for international students, then it should be free or cheap for Norwegian or EU/EEA-citizens as well, which are essentially getting paid by the government.
The state will just stop paying for non EU students.
Till now, Norwegian universities attracted international students with “free” price tag (except for a few courses). This has to stop.
Unless the Unis work hard (hire best faculties, focus on research, innovate, design world class curriculum), leave their comfort zone, improve their ranking, and compete with worlds best Unis, they will not get international students. This will further push them further down in world ranking (all ranking have flaws, we cannot selectively dismiss Univ ranking)
does this apply to family members of EU citizens? as in, thats what it says on my visa
This is so odd to me considering the cultural difference and perspective Norwegians have on university vs non EU students. What I mostly see is non EU students are the ones that are there for the classes and science creation. Norwegian and most EU students usually are more focused on the college experience (which is not a bad thing, young people should have fun!). Especially when we look at Norwegians, very little follow up to a higher education (masters/phd). Considering the population of the country Norway basically has a handful of Norwegian scientists.
This would just decrease the research quality of Norwegian unis I feel. Foreign talent already chooses better research environments like US/CA. Norway has great resources and should be encouraging more student involvement not less. Norwegian students are set for life, thus they are not prone to think of higher education while non EU students are more prone to be in the academic mindset.
Makes sense tbh
About 10 years ago, Sweden made a similar change and introduced tuition fee for students from outside EU/EEU.
In the beginning, the plan backfired. Many universities had to shut down some of their programs. I specifically remember some engineering programs were ended because the majority of applicants were from outside of EU/EEU. Then companies got worried about the future and not being able to find qualified work force.
Another example was this one specific multidisciplinary program focused on sustainability, which I took a few courses from. After the change and losing many international students, it lost most of its value because the participants were all from a European background and there was no diversity of perspectives during courses and discourses.
In reaction to this change, universities started offering scholarships, though it was still too expensive for many from developing/under-developed countries. I don’t know how the whole thing played out in the end, but it’d be interesting to look at Sweden example and see whether it improved whatever social and financial issues they were trying to resolve by introducing tuition fees.
Can someone clarify, I’ve moved here from Britain and worked here for two years and don’t have an intention to move back. I’d be planning to do a masters soon. Would I be exempt as a member of the national insurance scheme? I have no idea what that is…
Based.
Fuck you OP. I’m going to school in Norway soon and I thought this had passed. My heart sank. Misleading ass title
Dose this apply for international students who are applying this year?
What would happen for none EU/EEA students that are already studying in Norway is this is approved? Asking for a friend.
So I have been working as a skilled worker for four years and last year, I started my master’s degree. I wonder if and how this will apply to me. Right now, I am paying only a registration fee. Does anyone with a residence permit (work or family reunion) have folketrygden?
Can’t wait to see this backfire 🙂
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I find this extremely disappointing, both from a logical point of view, and pride. We really should not work towards closing ourselves off from higher educated immigrants, where students has always been one of our easiest avenues for it until now.
This is only proposed. So no effect yet. Doubt it would take effect (if the proposition goes trough parliament) before 2024 at the earliest.
What does this mean for graduate students? I know a few STEM labs that often take students from outside the EU.
Wow i had no idea that was a thing anywhere, awesome! But i understand why they would want to not do it anymore
Great decision. They cost alot and occupy the majority of student homes. I don’t have anything against them and understand that they find this sad, but the Norwegian government doesnt answer to them.
Would be disappointing if this change goes through, as I’ve been thinking of getting my education back on track somewhere outside the US. The idea was to stay in the country where I finish my education, doing research there.
Having to pay up to 15k USD a semester would just have me crossing Norway off the list of candidates and looking elsewhere.
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Well that’s the case with all EU countries, I was surprised when I knew that Norway offers it for free
Was bound to happen sooner or later. Most countries within the EU have stopped offering free education to non-Eu citizens over the years.
That includes UK.
This is misleading. It’s only a proposed budget for now. It needs to be debated.
its not official and its not the final budget but i doubt it will be changed
Welp, I was saving just for the living expenses alone, well, dreams crushed and good luck to them finding foreign students.
> His logic is that if it’s so cheap or free for international students, then it should be free or cheap for Norwegian or EU/EEA-citizens as well, which are essentially getting paid by the government.
The state will just stop paying for non EU students.
Till now, Norwegian universities attracted international students with “free” price tag (except for a few courses). This has to stop.
Unless the Unis work hard (hire best faculties, focus on research, innovate, design world class curriculum), leave their comfort zone, improve their ranking, and compete with worlds best Unis, they will not get international students. This will further push them further down in world ranking (all ranking have flaws, we cannot selectively dismiss Univ ranking)
does this apply to family members of EU citizens? as in, thats what it says on my visa
This is so odd to me considering the cultural difference and perspective Norwegians have on university vs non EU students. What I mostly see is non EU students are the ones that are there for the classes and science creation. Norwegian and most EU students usually are more focused on the college experience (which is not a bad thing, young people should have fun!). Especially when we look at Norwegians, very little follow up to a higher education (masters/phd). Considering the population of the country Norway basically has a handful of Norwegian scientists.
This would just decrease the research quality of Norwegian unis I feel. Foreign talent already chooses better research environments like US/CA. Norway has great resources and should be encouraging more student involvement not less. Norwegian students are set for life, thus they are not prone to think of higher education while non EU students are more prone to be in the academic mindset.
Makes sense tbh
About 10 years ago, Sweden made a similar change and introduced tuition fee for students from outside EU/EEU.
In the beginning, the plan backfired. Many universities had to shut down some of their programs. I specifically remember some engineering programs were ended because the majority of applicants were from outside of EU/EEU. Then companies got worried about the future and not being able to find qualified work force.
Another example was this one specific multidisciplinary program focused on sustainability, which I took a few courses from. After the change and losing many international students, it lost most of its value because the participants were all from a European background and there was no diversity of perspectives during courses and discourses.
In reaction to this change, universities started offering scholarships, though it was still too expensive for many from developing/under-developed countries. I don’t know how the whole thing played out in the end, but it’d be interesting to look at Sweden example and see whether it improved whatever social and financial issues they were trying to resolve by introducing tuition fees.
Can someone clarify, I’ve moved here from Britain and worked here for two years and don’t have an intention to move back. I’d be planning to do a masters soon. Would I be exempt as a member of the national insurance scheme? I have no idea what that is…
Based.
Fuck you OP. I’m going to school in Norway soon and I thought this had passed. My heart sank. Misleading ass title
Dose this apply for international students who are applying this year?
What would happen for none EU/EEA students that are already studying in Norway is this is approved? Asking for a friend.
So I have been working as a skilled worker for four years and last year, I started my master’s degree. I wonder if and how this will apply to me. Right now, I am paying only a registration fee. Does anyone with a residence permit (work or family reunion) have folketrygden?
Can’t wait to see this backfire 🙂
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I find this extremely disappointing, both from a logical point of view, and pride. We really should not work towards closing ourselves off from higher educated immigrants, where students has always been one of our easiest avenues for it until now.
This is only proposed. So no effect yet. Doubt it would take effect (if the proposition goes trough parliament) before 2024 at the earliest.
What does this mean for graduate students? I know a few STEM labs that often take students from outside the EU.
Wow i had no idea that was a thing anywhere, awesome! But i understand why they would want to not do it anymore
Great decision. They cost alot and occupy the majority of student homes. I don’t have anything against them and understand that they find this sad, but the Norwegian government doesnt answer to them.
Would be disappointing if this change goes through, as I’ve been thinking of getting my education back on track somewhere outside the US. The idea was to stay in the country where I finish my education, doing research there.
Having to pay up to 15k USD a semester would just have me crossing Norway off the list of candidates and looking elsewhere.
Good, why should we pay for others education