Wouldn’t doors with locks just be a better solution?
Sounds like the changing rooms need doors with locks
Strangers should not be able to come into the changing room with you – regardless of sex.
I was in NEXT recently trying on stuff I ordered and they just have curtains on the changing rooms too. And I was constantly worried that someone was going to open it. USE DOORS, just like toilet stall doors with a curtain inside so people can’t look under.
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That is really unnerving though. That that guy was perving on ladies in the changing rooms, sounds like he might’ve been stalking her in the shop.
Why they’re still using flimsy curtains instead of actual cubical doors with locks is beyond me. Several times I’ve been in one with curtains and someone has opened them and it’s horrid. Just have toilet style doors and this won’t happen.
Sorry what? I’ve never been in anywhere that had male and female changing. It’s always a row of cubicles with curtains for everyone. I don’t follow, at the very least, why these complaints are only coming up about Primark instead of all clothes shops if people care about this.
I’m not sure what having separate womens and mens sections would do to alleviate this issue.
If a person (regardless of gender) is so determined to see a person in a state of undress in a shop changing room, having a sign pointing men and women to different locations isn’t going to stop them.
Having a person there might, if that person has the authority and ability to restrain the person trying to look, but then I’d question why that person isn’t in the gender neutral changing room section anyway?
unisex changing rooms in a public place is surely stupid.
Primark has had a massive, documented problem with this for years.
Read this thread and weep at the lack of fucks given for women and girls’ safety and privacy at Primark.
I pray one day we start having single sex as an option as well as unisex. Last week I had the displeasure of walking into a unisex toilet in a McDonalds and saw a man pissing with the door open. This might be normal for men, but as a woman with sexual trauma I felt somewhat claustrophobic being in this small space with a strange man’s bare arse on display. Ran out without using the toilet.
And don’t even get me started on changing pads during my period and having to deal with the anxiety of walking out and seeing strange men know what’s going on. It’s incredibly uncomfortable.
I’ve had women walk in on me in a primark changing room when the curtain was closed and all the other rooms were open (curtains open) so its really swings and roundabouts. Staff should tell you what room to use. Equally one of the cleaners at the gym I use is a religious woman and Ive seen her gawping at guys when they take their trousers off, she kept staring at me the last time I saw her so I complained but the staff just said “theres a sign saying times a female cleaner will be in there”……. Theres limited privacy in public places, I still think urinals are dehumanising as in cities you will get all sorts of weirdos taking a peek.
Uuh… I’ve been to plenty of clothes shop with Unisex changing rooms
Bless her i can really empathise. Unfortunately (in my experience) predators can often target you where its busier… they operate in that grey area of – did they just accidentally brush up against me, or are they groping me? Did they accidentally burst in the changing room, or are they trying to peep?
Fair play to her speaking out about this and i’m not surprised the vid has gone viral as its an experience so many people can identify with.
Shops could perhaps do more to ensure changing rooms are adequately staffed and supervised.
Yeah,see unisex changing rooms can never be a good idea, cause there’s ALWAYS some c**t that will take advantage, ruining it for the decent people.
You’d think we’d know by now that you just can’t TRUST people.
There should only be 2 toilets one for the men the other for the women and i don’t care what anyone thinks about my comments when you hear about women scared in primark or other places because of unisex toilets or changing rooms it’s not on it should not happen women should feel safe end of
I refuse to change in rooms with a curtain. Stick a mirror on the wall & everyone walking by can see your entire naked body reflected in the mirror visible through the curtain cracks.
Just give us locking cubicles with sides that meet the floor & then no one has a problem. Everyone deserves privacy while changing.
None of this is difficult:
Changing rooms: Doors, not curtains. Latches with an external key for staff for emergencies etc
Toilets: Cubicles, or self contained units with a sink and everything like Wagamama have had for decades.
Yes, you have to invest in making stuff for your customers. This one was blokes walking in on people – but even separated changing rooms have this problem when it’s just a curtain.
Everyone was already fucking included in gendered changing rooms ffs
This shit is so bananas
Ok maybe not everyone (Trans N.B) but for the most part just have gendered changing
This very much sounds like a case where staff should’ve been present and weren’t
I’d argue the best solution is teaching men it’s not an acceptable thing to do
Why not have individual doors with locks? Doors without gaps. If you are going to pander to nonsense, at least do it right. People need to be and feel safe, we need to also keep our kids safe.
Bathrooms are an issue that needs solving as well, and not the primark way. Keep blokes out of ladies loos and changing rooms. And you know what I mean when I say ladies.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine a few months ago, some bloke opened the curtain and had a good look
She complained but it seems they haven’t fixed this or learnt yet that a curtain in a shared environment ist going to cut it… Needs fully lockable doors.
i don’t think this wouldn’t have been prevented even if the changing rooms weren’t unisex. predators are not stopped by a different door.
Pointing out this inevitability on Reddit a few months provoked a mass downvote frenzy !
I love how their solution is “change the rules so that unisex changing rooms aren’t a thing” when that was never the issue in the first place. I don’t want men walking in on me either, and I am a man. The issue is that the doors don’t have locks.
maybe the answer here isn’t a slapdash bandaid like switching your changing room policiy back and forth, but a lot more education for men who are inclined to do this kind of shit in the first place
Is it me or have fitting rooms in shops never been gendered?
I mean there’s normally 1 in the men’s section and 1 in the women’s so you use the one closest but I’ve never notice either one being strictly for any gender?
And if there’s only one it’s normally shared anyway?! I don’t understand where this has come from.
Why anyone thinks that forcing women to share spaces in which they are more vulnerable, such as public toilets or changing rooms, with male strangers, is a good idea, is completely beyond me.
Wow, who could’ve guessed this would end up happening?
This was expected. Surely if they had doors and they were still unisex you’d get some shaggers in there… Some people in the UK are just feral what can I say.
Not a single woman would be surprised by this.
95% of men are normal. But a minority are scumbags will seek any opportunity. Primark is the least of my worries, if I’m at a club am I going into some toilet with flimsy doors and a bunch of pissed blokes ? Absolutely not.
I understand there are people who only want a unisex changing room for their own reasons with their gender. Why the f does that mean that the reasons most other people absolutely do not want unisex changing rooms must be disregarded? Makes zero fucking sense and yet it’s just a freight train through the policies of all shops, seems like.
I have a mate who’s a trans woman and she just uses the men’s everything now. Her logic being “I’d rather be assaulted than accused of being a predator”. Seems sad but this is where we are.
Yeah sex segregated spaces exist for a reason. Who knew?
This is literally the reason why sex-specific changing rooms were used previously.
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Wouldn’t doors with locks just be a better solution?
Sounds like the changing rooms need doors with locks
Strangers should not be able to come into the changing room with you – regardless of sex.
I was in NEXT recently trying on stuff I ordered and they just have curtains on the changing rooms too. And I was constantly worried that someone was going to open it. USE DOORS, just like toilet stall doors with a curtain inside so people can’t look under.
​
That is really unnerving though. That that guy was perving on ladies in the changing rooms, sounds like he might’ve been stalking her in the shop.
Why they’re still using flimsy curtains instead of actual cubical doors with locks is beyond me. Several times I’ve been in one with curtains and someone has opened them and it’s horrid. Just have toilet style doors and this won’t happen.
Sorry what? I’ve never been in anywhere that had male and female changing. It’s always a row of cubicles with curtains for everyone. I don’t follow, at the very least, why these complaints are only coming up about Primark instead of all clothes shops if people care about this.
I’m not sure what having separate womens and mens sections would do to alleviate this issue.
If a person (regardless of gender) is so determined to see a person in a state of undress in a shop changing room, having a sign pointing men and women to different locations isn’t going to stop them.
Having a person there might, if that person has the authority and ability to restrain the person trying to look, but then I’d question why that person isn’t in the gender neutral changing room section anyway?
unisex changing rooms in a public place is surely stupid.
Primark has had a massive, documented problem with this for years.
Read this thread and weep at the lack of fucks given for women and girls’ safety and privacy at Primark.
https://twitter.com/SuzzanBlac/status/1453001944373604367?s=20&t=sn32RRxFZO7wLPsC2MOtpw
I pray one day we start having single sex as an option as well as unisex. Last week I had the displeasure of walking into a unisex toilet in a McDonalds and saw a man pissing with the door open. This might be normal for men, but as a woman with sexual trauma I felt somewhat claustrophobic being in this small space with a strange man’s bare arse on display. Ran out without using the toilet.
And don’t even get me started on changing pads during my period and having to deal with the anxiety of walking out and seeing strange men know what’s going on. It’s incredibly uncomfortable.
I’ve had women walk in on me in a primark changing room when the curtain was closed and all the other rooms were open (curtains open) so its really swings and roundabouts. Staff should tell you what room to use. Equally one of the cleaners at the gym I use is a religious woman and Ive seen her gawping at guys when they take their trousers off, she kept staring at me the last time I saw her so I complained but the staff just said “theres a sign saying times a female cleaner will be in there”……. Theres limited privacy in public places, I still think urinals are dehumanising as in cities you will get all sorts of weirdos taking a peek.
Uuh… I’ve been to plenty of clothes shop with Unisex changing rooms
Bless her i can really empathise. Unfortunately (in my experience) predators can often target you where its busier… they operate in that grey area of – did they just accidentally brush up against me, or are they groping me? Did they accidentally burst in the changing room, or are they trying to peep?
Fair play to her speaking out about this and i’m not surprised the vid has gone viral as its an experience so many people can identify with.
Shops could perhaps do more to ensure changing rooms are adequately staffed and supervised.
Yeah,see unisex changing rooms can never be a good idea, cause there’s ALWAYS some c**t that will take advantage, ruining it for the decent people.
You’d think we’d know by now that you just can’t TRUST people.
There should only be 2 toilets one for the men the other for the women and i don’t care what anyone thinks about my comments when you hear about women scared in primark or other places because of unisex toilets or changing rooms it’s not on it should not happen women should feel safe end of
I refuse to change in rooms with a curtain. Stick a mirror on the wall & everyone walking by can see your entire naked body reflected in the mirror visible through the curtain cracks.
Just give us locking cubicles with sides that meet the floor & then no one has a problem. Everyone deserves privacy while changing.
None of this is difficult:
Changing rooms: Doors, not curtains. Latches with an external key for staff for emergencies etc
Toilets: Cubicles, or self contained units with a sink and everything like Wagamama have had for decades.
Yes, you have to invest in making stuff for your customers. This one was blokes walking in on people – but even separated changing rooms have this problem when it’s just a curtain.
Everyone was already fucking included in gendered changing rooms ffs
This shit is so bananas
Ok maybe not everyone (Trans N.B) but for the most part just have gendered changing
This very much sounds like a case where staff should’ve been present and weren’t
I’d argue the best solution is teaching men it’s not an acceptable thing to do
Why not have individual doors with locks? Doors without gaps. If you are going to pander to nonsense, at least do it right. People need to be and feel safe, we need to also keep our kids safe.
Bathrooms are an issue that needs solving as well, and not the primark way. Keep blokes out of ladies loos and changing rooms. And you know what I mean when I say ladies.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine a few months ago, some bloke opened the curtain and had a good look
She complained but it seems they haven’t fixed this or learnt yet that a curtain in a shared environment ist going to cut it… Needs fully lockable doors.
i don’t think this wouldn’t have been prevented even if the changing rooms weren’t unisex. predators are not stopped by a different door.
Pointing out this inevitability on Reddit a few months provoked a mass downvote frenzy !
I love how their solution is “change the rules so that unisex changing rooms aren’t a thing” when that was never the issue in the first place. I don’t want men walking in on me either, and I am a man. The issue is that the doors don’t have locks.
maybe the answer here isn’t a slapdash bandaid like switching your changing room policiy back and forth, but a lot more education for men who are inclined to do this kind of shit in the first place
Is it me or have fitting rooms in shops never been gendered?
I mean there’s normally 1 in the men’s section and 1 in the women’s so you use the one closest but I’ve never notice either one being strictly for any gender?
And if there’s only one it’s normally shared anyway?! I don’t understand where this has come from.
Why anyone thinks that forcing women to share spaces in which they are more vulnerable, such as public toilets or changing rooms, with male strangers, is a good idea, is completely beyond me.
Wow, who could’ve guessed this would end up happening?
This was expected. Surely if they had doors and they were still unisex you’d get some shaggers in there… Some people in the UK are just feral what can I say.
Not a single woman would be surprised by this.
95% of men are normal. But a minority are scumbags will seek any opportunity. Primark is the least of my worries, if I’m at a club am I going into some toilet with flimsy doors and a bunch of pissed blokes ? Absolutely not.
I understand there are people who only want a unisex changing room for their own reasons with their gender. Why the f does that mean that the reasons most other people absolutely do not want unisex changing rooms must be disregarded? Makes zero fucking sense and yet it’s just a freight train through the policies of all shops, seems like.
I have a mate who’s a trans woman and she just uses the men’s everything now. Her logic being “I’d rather be assaulted than accused of being a predator”. Seems sad but this is where we are.
Yeah sex segregated spaces exist for a reason. Who knew?
This is literally the reason why sex-specific changing rooms were used previously.
If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it