> “This is all for people to cycle when they could make a cycle track on the road. It’s so insensitive. It’s not a playground or cycle track, it’s a place of rest.
Yeah, they could’ve put the cycle lane that would make it safer for children to cycle to school on the road, but then they would’ve had to make one road one-way and OH THE HORROR
She should pose for some more photos
NIMBY alarm bells are singing but a cycle lane through a cemetery is a bit odd.
Do people walk through it on their day to day routine? I have only been through the main entrance for funerals so I don’t know if there are other exits.
This could affect burial plot values. People invest a lot in their place of rest and don’t want their views spoilt by this eyesore. Not in MY church yard, thanks very much.
Is the cycle path outside the graveyard but along the boundary wall?
Or is it going through the graveyard?
Graveyards are nearly a big a waste of space as golf courses
Some people if they could would object to the sun rising in the morning.
“quick, take another photo of me, i didn’t look angry/sad enough in the last 40”
Sorry for her loss, but it doesn’t give her the right to close off a massive swathe of land for everyone indefinitely.
Stupid fucking idea.
I’m not a fan of the cycle route at all. The route does seem to go through some odd places rather than at logical endpoints of roads, junctions etc. Not going down Newtownpark Avenue especially in favour of going through a housing estate is an example of an odd choice.
NIMBY shit for sure, but also – why divert it from the street to appease motorists? Like I would rather appease the lady with a dead kid than motorists, but either way the cycle lane must be made.
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I have no opinion on this and no information to add. It’s just the phrase “Dublin Mum Slams” got me a little excited.
Here are the Cllrs cheering for their lobbying success on the detour:
I think cemeteries should be community locations where people can spend time and enjoy life so I’m all for this, but I understand why someone wouldn’t like it
This bike lane is going through the Graveyard as local ‘residents’ objected to the road beside it being made one way to accommodate a 2 way bike lane. And by local residents I mean a campaign orchestrated in the main by a bunch of fast food joints that were going to lose a few parking spots.
Obviously we all have different opinions and beliefs, but i kinda like the idea of their been more traffic and use in graveyards.
If I was to have a grave i would like to be a bench, or have a small plaque in a flower garden. Now i don’t believe in an afterlife so obviously my beliefs don’t carry the same weight but i always think we can honour people’s memory in more then the classic grave
>Dublin mum slams plans to appease NIMBY drivers by making a cycle route more dangerous and inconvenient
FTFY.
For anyone wondering, a good chunk of residents complained that the bike lane was was going to be on the road (closing one lane), now another bunch (there is overlap with the first) are complaining it’ll be in the graveyard beside the road.
The only other real option is to actually run it through the housing estate all these people live in, but it’s by far the most awkward route to lay out or remove their on street parking (not even sure that’ll leave enough room).
Oh and this one section of road is needed to link up two of the three major routes the council planned during covid to make cycling to school safer. The route has go to somewhere here.
Best part, traffic is a complete mess around there as stands, but no room for bus lanes really, or widening the road. Council knows they need to do something, anything, but can’t seem to get consensus towards any solution, so everyone is stuck with terrible traffic still.
NIMGY
Not a resident of the area or particularly religious but I can understand both sides to this. Like the people taking the piss out of this Mother who lost her child are completely out of line.
Obviously prioritising the safety of our most vulnerable commuters is of the utmost importance. I think that pedestrians should be protected from cyclists within the graveyard and points of entry and egress. The very nature of graveyards attract visits from the elderly and families with children. Traffic lights for cyclists entering and exiting or a dismount area at any choke points would probably suffice rather than limiting cyclists to 15kph or whatever. Maybe kissing gates to prevent motorbikes, mopeds etc from taking shortcuts through and to keep everyone safe, slow is safe.
The reaction on Twitter I’ve seen relating to the initial plan is a bit inconsistent. The cycle lobby groups didn’t seem to know whether to be outraged that the road wasn’t turned into a one way system or if they were happy to be provided with a road completely segregated from cars which children would be comfortable using.
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> “This is all for people to cycle when they could make a cycle track on the road. It’s so insensitive. It’s not a playground or cycle track, it’s a place of rest.
Yeah, they could’ve put the cycle lane that would make it safer for children to cycle to school on the road, but then they would’ve had to make one road one-way and OH THE HORROR
She should pose for some more photos
NIMBY alarm bells are singing but a cycle lane through a cemetery is a bit odd.
Do people walk through it on their day to day routine? I have only been through the main entrance for funerals so I don’t know if there are other exits.
This could affect burial plot values. People invest a lot in their place of rest and don’t want their views spoilt by this eyesore. Not in MY church yard, thanks very much.
Is the cycle path outside the graveyard but along the boundary wall?
Or is it going through the graveyard?
Graveyards are nearly a big a waste of space as golf courses
Some people if they could would object to the sun rising in the morning.
“quick, take another photo of me, i didn’t look angry/sad enough in the last 40”
Sorry for her loss, but it doesn’t give her the right to close off a massive swathe of land for everyone indefinitely.
Stupid fucking idea.
I’m not a fan of the cycle route at all. The route does seem to go through some odd places rather than at logical endpoints of roads, junctions etc. Not going down Newtownpark Avenue especially in favour of going through a housing estate is an example of an odd choice.
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LOL the Irish Times are even using the same photo for [the article about this](https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2022/09/13/concern-over-plans-for-cycle-route-past-deansgrange-cemetery-graves/), and [the article last year](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/children-s-cycle-route-diverted-through-deansgrange-cemetery-1.4754505) where some residents and businesses campaigned to put the cycle lane in the graveyard instead of making the road 1 way
NIMBY shit for sure, but also – why divert it from the street to appease motorists? Like I would rather appease the lady with a dead kid than motorists, but either way the cycle lane must be made.
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I have no opinion on this and no information to add. It’s just the phrase “Dublin Mum Slams” got me a little excited.
Here are the Cllrs cheering for their lobbying success on the detour:
https://twitter.com/CarrollJennifer/status/1468649076019249152
I think cemeteries should be community locations where people can spend time and enjoy life so I’m all for this, but I understand why someone wouldn’t like it
This bike lane is going through the Graveyard as local ‘residents’ objected to the road beside it being made one way to accommodate a 2 way bike lane. And by local residents I mean a campaign orchestrated in the main by a bunch of fast food joints that were going to lose a few parking spots.
Obviously we all have different opinions and beliefs, but i kinda like the idea of their been more traffic and use in graveyards.
If I was to have a grave i would like to be a bench, or have a small plaque in a flower garden. Now i don’t believe in an afterlife so obviously my beliefs don’t carry the same weight but i always think we can honour people’s memory in more then the classic grave
>Dublin mum slams plans to appease NIMBY drivers by making a cycle route more dangerous and inconvenient
FTFY.
For anyone wondering, a good chunk of residents complained that the bike lane was was going to be on the road (closing one lane), now another bunch (there is overlap with the first) are complaining it’ll be in the graveyard beside the road.
The only other real option is to actually run it through the housing estate all these people live in, but it’s by far the most awkward route to lay out or remove their on street parking (not even sure that’ll leave enough room).
Oh and this one section of road is needed to link up two of the three major routes the council planned during covid to make cycling to school safer. The route has go to somewhere here.
Best part, traffic is a complete mess around there as stands, but no room for bus lanes really, or widening the road. Council knows they need to do something, anything, but can’t seem to get consensus towards any solution, so everyone is stuck with terrible traffic still.
NIMGY
Not a resident of the area or particularly religious but I can understand both sides to this. Like the people taking the piss out of this Mother who lost her child are completely out of line.
Obviously prioritising the safety of our most vulnerable commuters is of the utmost importance. I think that pedestrians should be protected from cyclists within the graveyard and points of entry and egress. The very nature of graveyards attract visits from the elderly and families with children. Traffic lights for cyclists entering and exiting or a dismount area at any choke points would probably suffice rather than limiting cyclists to 15kph or whatever. Maybe kissing gates to prevent motorbikes, mopeds etc from taking shortcuts through and to keep everyone safe, slow is safe.
The reaction on Twitter I’ve seen relating to the initial plan is a bit inconsistent. The cycle lobby groups didn’t seem to know whether to be outraged that the road wasn’t turned into a one way system or if they were happy to be provided with a road completely segregated from cars which children would be comfortable using.
This is the perfect flair for this story.