Difficult. I don’t have insight here, but I’ve heard while Volt is a ‘take it or leave it’ job, maybe there could be better compensation for the drivers. I’ve not used the service, but I understand they take over a quarter of the restaurant bill from the vendor plus a delivery fee from the customer.
How much might a driver get for delivery, of which they have costs to account for/write off in tax.
I think the proposed move is probably not the way forward though.
Most of the couriers want to remain entrepreneurs. I would also want to do that. But they are actually employed, everyone knows that. There would be only entrepreneurs soon if it were allowed.
I think this whole gig economy thing is unsustainable. It is already expensive to use Wolt, imagine if you paid 10e/delivery.
There was a very healthy company called Gastronaut that tried to implement food couriering in Finland. They did most things correct, had a selection of all restaurants, fast delivery etc etc. Why they failed? Because the business model was not profitable.
Foodora and Wolt WILL fail one day too. They just have not yet, because they make profit out of paying less to delivery workers. One way or other the loopholes they found to allow this will be blocked.
In other countries it might work. Like Israel, Russia, USA where it is part of culture to have a poor working class.
I have several friends doing Wolt and Foodora job besides their main job.
Most of them said that Wolt offers more freedom to decide when to do the job and when to rest or work other job.
Foodora has shifts, and in order to get those shifts you need to do some successful delivery etc. Every Wednesday they get to choose which shifts they can work. There are 3 tiers, tier 1 is for drivers who drive a lot for them so they got the advantage to choose all the ‘profitable’ shifts, then tier 2 and tier 3 basically just scraping whatever left.
I asked them how much they get per delivery, they said around 4-5 euros. So they have to deliver to many destinations at a time to make it worth it.
In Foodora, they say you will get idle fee, let’s say the shift starts at 8.00 and finish at 14.00, between 8.00-10.00 you already login to work but there is no order that come to you then you will get idle fee for 2 hours, my friend said it is around 10 euros.
Most of the Wolt/Foodora drivers I know, they operate under toiminimi, so basically entrepreneur. They put all their expenses there, car payments, gasoline, dining out, etc.
If the are full time Wolt courier, they are able to deduct even more expenses I heard.
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Appropriate nick.
Difficult. I don’t have insight here, but I’ve heard while Volt is a ‘take it or leave it’ job, maybe there could be better compensation for the drivers. I’ve not used the service, but I understand they take over a quarter of the restaurant bill from the vendor plus a delivery fee from the customer.
How much might a driver get for delivery, of which they have costs to account for/write off in tax.
I think the proposed move is probably not the way forward though.
Most of the couriers want to remain entrepreneurs. I would also want to do that. But they are actually employed, everyone knows that. There would be only entrepreneurs soon if it were allowed.
I think this whole gig economy thing is unsustainable. It is already expensive to use Wolt, imagine if you paid 10e/delivery.
There was a very healthy company called Gastronaut that tried to implement food couriering in Finland. They did most things correct, had a selection of all restaurants, fast delivery etc etc. Why they failed? Because the business model was not profitable.
Foodora and Wolt WILL fail one day too. They just have not yet, because they make profit out of paying less to delivery workers. One way or other the loopholes they found to allow this will be blocked.
In other countries it might work. Like Israel, Russia, USA where it is part of culture to have a poor working class.
I have several friends doing Wolt and Foodora job besides their main job.
Most of them said that Wolt offers more freedom to decide when to do the job and when to rest or work other job.
Foodora has shifts, and in order to get those shifts you need to do some successful delivery etc. Every Wednesday they get to choose which shifts they can work. There are 3 tiers, tier 1 is for drivers who drive a lot for them so they got the advantage to choose all the ‘profitable’ shifts, then tier 2 and tier 3 basically just scraping whatever left.
I asked them how much they get per delivery, they said around 4-5 euros. So they have to deliver to many destinations at a time to make it worth it.
In Foodora, they say you will get idle fee, let’s say the shift starts at 8.00 and finish at 14.00, between 8.00-10.00 you already login to work but there is no order that come to you then you will get idle fee for 2 hours, my friend said it is around 10 euros.
Most of the Wolt/Foodora drivers I know, they operate under toiminimi, so basically entrepreneur. They put all their expenses there, car payments, gasoline, dining out, etc.
If the are full time Wolt courier, they are able to deduct even more expenses I heard.