This should say everything to anyone that isnt a millionaire that still votes tory.
To the tories not only are the nurses worth less than a company values their shop workers that also means you the paitent are worth less. You as the paitent in the yes of the tories do not deserve to be treated by people that arent starving; by people that arebt overworked and tired; that you simple do not deserve adequate healthcare.
To the tories you are disposable.
Stop voting tory if you arent a millionaire they only want to kill you off otherwise
Good, they should do that. People shouldn’t be loyal to employers that underpay them… and god (and everyone else) knows that health service staff deserve to be paid more than hedge fund managers.
I am truly sorry for anyone whose health suffers because of the lack of NHS staff but that isn’t the nurses fault. It is not even the governments fault if we are honest… it is societies’ fault. If we valued the people who are actually valuable……
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Another step towards them declaring that the NHS is not fit for purpose. Then they can openly move to a private system. The current government want nothing more than to sell out healthcare to the large US insurance companies; we’ll go along with it when it’s too broken to fix.
Magic money tree for yee but not for thee.
I left my job as an NHS Nurse just a few months ago. It was a really difficult decision and I’m genuinely missing interacting with patients. The NHS is just not a good employer and the pay does not reflect the demands and expectations of the job, let alone the poor experience of being employed by the NHS.
The Tories are running the NHS into the ground. They want us in terrible debt to private medical companies that they’re going to own or be shareholders of. You being ill is seen as a sales opportunity.
Several of my NHS colleagues over the last 2 years have left to go private/other companies than the NHS, they’re doing the same job basically for so much more money and less stress too. Something needs to change.
The red double decker Brexit Bus said Brexit would give an extra £350M per week to the NHS.
Say yes to Nurses, no to liars, no to Truss Gov’t, and yes to an early election.
I’m a gp who left working 13 hour days at a practice. It sucked. Now I sell my art with occasional locum shifts with Out of hours service once a week and earn more money than before. They ask me to stay on with 100 patients on the screen, but I just leave. Would never go back to working at a practice it would have to be at gun point.
My mrs did exactly this. The pay is about the same (not very good) but she no longer cry’s after work, no longer has to do horrible shift patterns and is just all around much happier. She’s such a good natured person and she put her all into it but I do not blame anybody else for doing the same it really is that bad.
tbf thats what they were told to do by the chief dickhead
NHS disposable commodity if your Reese-Mogg.
Litterally been ran into the ground for about 20 years.
Degraded the amount of PPE required for Covid, just prior to it being declared global pandemic. Like that should be a fucking war crime, not even joking.
Can I ask which shops? I have a 5 family members who work in the NHS and I can definitely say that they wouldn’t be better off working in a shop.
When I first started working for the NHS I was so enamoured with the idea of it that I put up with the low pay and stressful conditions, and even loved coming into work. 6 years later all I can think about is leaving the NHS lab to work in industry or a health service in another country. Seeing what should have been a bumper payslip this month get eaten up by pension arrears from the increase in contributions to a pension the Tories will probably devalue before I ever get to use it, if I even get to retirement age with the way that keeps going up, really brought it all home. Sorry, long sentence!
I’m a newly qualified nurse. My basic rate is £27,000 per year (since the pay rise), and with unsocial hours (nights, weekends, bank holidays) it’s about £33,000 per year. I also do a bank shift for about £23-30 per hour once per month. I do on average 3-4 shifts per week. Financially I’m not better off in employment with a shop. I’m not saying we don’t need a pay rise. We do. We’re under inflation rates by a long shot, and our pay doesn’t match our responsibility. Just I think the headline is more referring to HCAs and other band 2s within the NHS. Who absolutely need a pay rise too.
Stress wise? Responsibility wise? I’d be better off. I also feel like I wouldn’t last until my pension age doing this job as it’s very physically demanding.
Can confirm, was never a nurse, but I was an Electro-Biomedical Maintenance Engineer for the NHS.
I literally make twice what I previously did by engineering in the private sector.
Agenda for a Change rates were a joke, totally unsustainable.
I had a pay review borad in the MOD (the closest thing we have to a union) . The short of it was us saying we can get a better paid job with the experience we have in civilian life and them replying with “that sort of high wage can’t hold up forever in engineering”.
No wonder why there is a massive retention problem.
All respect to my colleagues in retail, but a store manager in Aldi (48k) gets paid more than a band 7 shift leader in the emergency department (41-47k). This govt is putting the financial value of taking responsibility for hundreds of lives a day below that of someone who manages a store (accounting for all the stresses and responsibilities that I’m sure that role also entails)
Its not about wanting to drag anyone else down either, its highlighting how disgustingly low our salaries are.
Tory voters should pay to use the NHS.
FUCK THE TORY PARTY.
What shops are paying 27k out of interest? That’s what band 5 nurses start at
Former hospital porter here. Wondering how the cleaners porters security are managing if the nurses are leaving because of pay.
I know newly qualified don’t exactly get much but in nursing you can progress quickly.
When I started there was a healthcare worker who took one of them fast track routes into nursing. 7 years later she was a site practitioner on good money.
Obviously not everyone can do that but there are thousands of options to progress.
Drip, drip, drip of the erosion of the nhs, until finally the tories claim the only solution is privatisation
The tory party’s plan to privatise the NHS is all coming together.
Newly qualified nurse is on 27k
Im not sure shop workers are on this much…
A newly qualified nurse earns on average £27,055. The average wage for a shop worker in the UK is around £20,869 a year…something in this story isn’t adding up
Well, that’s the plan. Destroy the NHS and get people to switch to expensive private care. Then you can force people to choose between money and health like they do in the states.
And we will just let the tories do it.
This should really be a matter of national shame. We had pandemic and NHS staff risked their lives to keep us well. Many literally lost their lives. Any other institution would have halted operations if even 10 lives had been lost. It is very sad that the nation has forgotten their sacrifice, so soon. NHS, even with many shortcomings, is true jewel of the nation. We can’t afford to see its demise.
I had to make an unscheduled visit to a hospital the other week, talking to the paramedic on the way he mentioned that he’s planning on leaving the service to work with the coastguard. The general feel is that morale is not just rock bottom but past it somewhere heading towards the molten core, and the lack of staff is just adding to the problem, while we were on our way to the hospital there was a call out and the nearest ambulance was in the next county, and shortly afterwards there was a priority one call and no-one available to answer it.
The icing on the cake? He’d just been swapped over onto a new contract, without his say so, and since the pay date counting was a week out from his current contract, he was going to be down £600 on his current months pay.
It’s little wonder so many are leaving the NHS, and so few are joining it.
Googling nurses pay and average shop worker’s pay brings up £27,055 (starting salary, band 5), and £22,320 respectively.
What’s the reality though?
I was in A&E a couple months ago in Queen Elizabeth Hospital, just looking at how overworked everybody looked and stressed out they were plus how run down the hospital looked, I don’t blame them. Knowing what I know now about NHS staff, I don’t blame people for leaving to work in private practices or looking at another field completely.
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This should say everything to anyone that isnt a millionaire that still votes tory.
To the tories not only are the nurses worth less than a company values their shop workers that also means you the paitent are worth less. You as the paitent in the yes of the tories do not deserve to be treated by people that arent starving; by people that arebt overworked and tired; that you simple do not deserve adequate healthcare.
To the tories you are disposable.
Stop voting tory if you arent a millionaire they only want to kill you off otherwise
Good, they should do that. People shouldn’t be loyal to employers that underpay them… and god (and everyone else) knows that health service staff deserve to be paid more than hedge fund managers.
I am truly sorry for anyone whose health suffers because of the lack of NHS staff but that isn’t the nurses fault. It is not even the governments fault if we are honest… it is societies’ fault. If we valued the people who are actually valuable……
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Another step towards them declaring that the NHS is not fit for purpose. Then they can openly move to a private system. The current government want nothing more than to sell out healthcare to the large US insurance companies; we’ll go along with it when it’s too broken to fix.
Magic money tree for yee but not for thee.
I left my job as an NHS Nurse just a few months ago. It was a really difficult decision and I’m genuinely missing interacting with patients. The NHS is just not a good employer and the pay does not reflect the demands and expectations of the job, let alone the poor experience of being employed by the NHS.
Conservative Chair: Just get better jobs.
Nurses: Okay. *leaves NHS*
Conservative Chair: [shockedeggmanface.jpg](https://media.tenor.com/images/0660262cd1e3de1a9ae006cf559bc9b8/tenor.gif)
The Tories are running the NHS into the ground. They want us in terrible debt to private medical companies that they’re going to own or be shareholders of. You being ill is seen as a sales opportunity.
Several of my NHS colleagues over the last 2 years have left to go private/other companies than the NHS, they’re doing the same job basically for so much more money and less stress too. Something needs to change.
The red double decker Brexit Bus said Brexit would give an extra £350M per week to the NHS.
Say yes to Nurses, no to liars, no to Truss Gov’t, and yes to an early election.
I’m a gp who left working 13 hour days at a practice. It sucked. Now I sell my art with occasional locum shifts with Out of hours service once a week and earn more money than before. They ask me to stay on with 100 patients on the screen, but I just leave. Would never go back to working at a practice it would have to be at gun point.
My mrs did exactly this. The pay is about the same (not very good) but she no longer cry’s after work, no longer has to do horrible shift patterns and is just all around much happier. She’s such a good natured person and she put her all into it but I do not blame anybody else for doing the same it really is that bad.
tbf thats what they were told to do by the chief dickhead
NHS disposable commodity if your Reese-Mogg.
Litterally been ran into the ground for about 20 years.
Degraded the amount of PPE required for Covid, just prior to it being declared global pandemic. Like that should be a fucking war crime, not even joking.
Can I ask which shops? I have a 5 family members who work in the NHS and I can definitely say that they wouldn’t be better off working in a shop.
When I first started working for the NHS I was so enamoured with the idea of it that I put up with the low pay and stressful conditions, and even loved coming into work. 6 years later all I can think about is leaving the NHS lab to work in industry or a health service in another country. Seeing what should have been a bumper payslip this month get eaten up by pension arrears from the increase in contributions to a pension the Tories will probably devalue before I ever get to use it, if I even get to retirement age with the way that keeps going up, really brought it all home. Sorry, long sentence!
I’m a newly qualified nurse. My basic rate is £27,000 per year (since the pay rise), and with unsocial hours (nights, weekends, bank holidays) it’s about £33,000 per year. I also do a bank shift for about £23-30 per hour once per month. I do on average 3-4 shifts per week. Financially I’m not better off in employment with a shop. I’m not saying we don’t need a pay rise. We do. We’re under inflation rates by a long shot, and our pay doesn’t match our responsibility. Just I think the headline is more referring to HCAs and other band 2s within the NHS. Who absolutely need a pay rise too.
Stress wise? Responsibility wise? I’d be better off. I also feel like I wouldn’t last until my pension age doing this job as it’s very physically demanding.
Can confirm, was never a nurse, but I was an Electro-Biomedical Maintenance Engineer for the NHS.
I literally make twice what I previously did by engineering in the private sector.
Agenda for a Change rates were a joke, totally unsustainable.
I had a pay review borad in the MOD (the closest thing we have to a union) . The short of it was us saying we can get a better paid job with the experience we have in civilian life and them replying with “that sort of high wage can’t hold up forever in engineering”.
No wonder why there is a massive retention problem.
All respect to my colleagues in retail, but a store manager in Aldi (48k) gets paid more than a band 7 shift leader in the emergency department (41-47k). This govt is putting the financial value of taking responsibility for hundreds of lives a day below that of someone who manages a store (accounting for all the stresses and responsibilities that I’m sure that role also entails)
Its not about wanting to drag anyone else down either, its highlighting how disgustingly low our salaries are.
Tory voters should pay to use the NHS.
FUCK THE TORY PARTY.
What shops are paying 27k out of interest? That’s what band 5 nurses start at
Former hospital porter here. Wondering how the cleaners porters security are managing if the nurses are leaving because of pay.
I know newly qualified don’t exactly get much but in nursing you can progress quickly.
When I started there was a healthcare worker who took one of them fast track routes into nursing. 7 years later she was a site practitioner on good money.
Obviously not everyone can do that but there are thousands of options to progress.
Drip, drip, drip of the erosion of the nhs, until finally the tories claim the only solution is privatisation
The tory party’s plan to privatise the NHS is all coming together.
Newly qualified nurse is on 27k
Im not sure shop workers are on this much…
A newly qualified nurse earns on average £27,055. The average wage for a shop worker in the UK is around £20,869 a year…something in this story isn’t adding up
Well, that’s the plan. Destroy the NHS and get people to switch to expensive private care. Then you can force people to choose between money and health like they do in the states.
And we will just let the tories do it.
This should really be a matter of national shame. We had pandemic and NHS staff risked their lives to keep us well. Many literally lost their lives. Any other institution would have halted operations if even 10 lives had been lost. It is very sad that the nation has forgotten their sacrifice, so soon. NHS, even with many shortcomings, is true jewel of the nation. We can’t afford to see its demise.
I had to make an unscheduled visit to a hospital the other week, talking to the paramedic on the way he mentioned that he’s planning on leaving the service to work with the coastguard. The general feel is that morale is not just rock bottom but past it somewhere heading towards the molten core, and the lack of staff is just adding to the problem, while we were on our way to the hospital there was a call out and the nearest ambulance was in the next county, and shortly afterwards there was a priority one call and no-one available to answer it.
The icing on the cake? He’d just been swapped over onto a new contract, without his say so, and since the pay date counting was a week out from his current contract, he was going to be down £600 on his current months pay.
It’s little wonder so many are leaving the NHS, and so few are joining it.
Googling nurses pay and average shop worker’s pay brings up £27,055 (starting salary, band 5), and £22,320 respectively.
What’s the reality though?
I was in A&E a couple months ago in Queen Elizabeth Hospital, just looking at how overworked everybody looked and stressed out they were plus how run down the hospital looked, I don’t blame them. Knowing what I know now about NHS staff, I don’t blame people for leaving to work in private practices or looking at another field completely.