It not racist to ask questions, what is racist is the racist shite the people asking the question come out with.
This would not have been permitted to appear in a mainstream news outlet last year.
People aren’t stupid, they can see that Ireland is changing by the day in front of their eyes. They know they were never asked whether they wanted this. And they know that Mninsters like O’Gorman and McIntee have never encountered a foreign national that they don’t want to come and live in Ireland (just not in _your_ house, Helen).
What we are repeatedly seeing throughout Europe is is that when people lose faith in the established parties to deal with overmigration, they will turn to extremes. In the UK, they voted to leave the EU. Italy and Sweden are now being run by far-Right parties. Spain will likely be the same before too long. An actual fascist got to the playoff final in the French presidential elections – three times since the turn of the century.
I never used – or at least rarely used – to hear complaints about immigration into Ireland, but it’s all around us now. People are sick of it and are bringing it up in bars and smoking areas.
If this isn’t got control of very quickly, McIntee and O’Gorman are going to be responsible for a massive backlash against genuine refugees, and the creation of an Irish far Right.
Questions aren’t racist. Framing questions in a racist way is a bit racist. Hope this helps
>As for what countries people are coming from, 21% of asylum seekers coming here this year have come from Georgia (2,059), while around 13% have come from Somalia (1315) and 11% have arrived from Algeria (1101).
Georgia is ridiculous. It’s considered a safe country of origin by most EU states including Ireland and asylum seekers should be turned around and sent home on the spot. There are nationals from far more dangerous places that actually need protecting we should prioritise over these economic migrants.
When services and finances are stretched to deal with the arrivals politicians and the Irish Times will scratching their heads wondering why far right populists are getting votes.
Most people have no problem with Ukrainians as they are genuinely fleeing a warzone, but many arrivals of military aged men are clearly not, competely taking the piss while clogging up the whole asylum process.
What the irish government hasn’t said is that there are shitloads of EU grants available to countries that take in Ukrainian refugees. These funds are incressing the longer it rolls on. If you meet a certain threshold of refugees you allow in (relative to population) then the funds available increase hugely.
Countries can spend these funds on childcare, education, housing, infrastructure. In my opinion it appears that the government is going gung-ho with bringing in refugees cos they will get a shitload of money to rebuild the country from the EU plus cheap labour. I’m not sure why nobody is asking them these questions. The EU reports are freely available.
They probably had a target in mind on how many refugees to bring in, but didn’t imagine that the war would be rolling on with no end in sight. So there is no longterm plan.
> Following Ireland’s formal notification of 7 February 2022 to opt-in for participating in AMIF, the Commission confirmed the participation of Ireland in AMIF in Decision (EU) 2022/507 of 29 March 2022. Ireland therefore participates in AMIF as of 7 February 2022. Irish beneficiaries are thus eligible alongside other EU countries, apart from Denmark who is not taking part in AMIF, in accordance with Articles 1 and 2 of Protocol No 22 on the position of Denmark, annexed to the Treaty of the European Union (TEU) and to the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU).
Well I’m sick of it! It’s a joke at this stage. Everyone I know is raging about this situation, and rightly so. I work in homeless services and witness the amount of Irish citizens that can’t get housing, yet the idiotic government keep welcoming in these “refugees” in droves. It’s utter insanity!!
All these people coming here with no passports and I get absolutely harassed when I come back home from holidays. I must look like a scumbag or something because I fly in tracksuits
It’s not racist as long as you’re seeing the problem is clearly a government unable to take in 64,000 and not the 64,000 themselves.
This is the reality of electing someone like Martin leader of a country. He’s just incompetent. And if you’ve ever worked with incompetent people, you know it’s always like this. A fiasco built upon the last fiasco.
It is gone a bit nuts as of late. Our government forget that we are a small island with a massive housing crisis for its own people amoung other problems because they want the pat on the back from Europe.
64k arrivals. That’s like the years housing supply just for them.
You’ll be labelled far right however some conservative policies are probably required
The best of the best of migrants leave there country’s and those are the most productive, we take them and the poor nations get poorer.
MickOConnor_1 seems to obsessed with new arrivals, based on his post history.
Why the victimhood?
We shouldnt be taking asylum seekers from most of these places, ukraine i can understand but its not racist to look at it pragmatically and say bar the ukraine war issue, our borders should be closed to those from outside the EU.
Non eu migrants are net detractors from the economy here and over represent in crime stats.
Awful journalism, just asking all the wrong questions and insinuating motives on the forrenjers while leaving out how the asylum seekers actually arrive as part of a solidarity clause with EU countries like Greece. The question is why is the asylum process- a legal obligation- so shit after all these years.
Finally we are putting the cat on the table.
Simple fact is nearly half the “refugges”, are chances. Fix that and we fix the crux of the problem and all we need to do to stop it is stop taking the piss when it comes to “I lost my passport”, the simple answer to that should be “,right get lost yourself so “
What’s happening in Ireland is exactly what UK has been having for years thus why the government made alot of people vote yes in Brexit because they kept repeating the same thing over ‘we won’t our country back we want our borders back’ this’s how the people really felt the country was becoming overpopulated, system abused by the immigrants you can understand the frustration. Ireland is heading exactly the same route if the government doesn’t halt this which they will most likely won’t because on the international stage they have completely no spine than this country will have massive issue in the near future which will the average hard working person will have to deal with this and not the upper class people protected in their gated communities.
We should address the working holiday visas also and reduce the amount that can get such a visa, we don’t have enough housing, we need to reduce the numbers
Can’t wait until I leave this shithole next year 👍👍👍
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It not racist to ask questions, what is racist is the racist shite the people asking the question come out with.
This would not have been permitted to appear in a mainstream news outlet last year.
People aren’t stupid, they can see that Ireland is changing by the day in front of their eyes. They know they were never asked whether they wanted this. And they know that Mninsters like O’Gorman and McIntee have never encountered a foreign national that they don’t want to come and live in Ireland (just not in _your_ house, Helen).
What we are repeatedly seeing throughout Europe is is that when people lose faith in the established parties to deal with overmigration, they will turn to extremes. In the UK, they voted to leave the EU. Italy and Sweden are now being run by far-Right parties. Spain will likely be the same before too long. An actual fascist got to the playoff final in the French presidential elections – three times since the turn of the century.
I never used – or at least rarely used – to hear complaints about immigration into Ireland, but it’s all around us now. People are sick of it and are bringing it up in bars and smoking areas.
If this isn’t got control of very quickly, McIntee and O’Gorman are going to be responsible for a massive backlash against genuine refugees, and the creation of an Irish far Right.
Questions aren’t racist. Framing questions in a racist way is a bit racist. Hope this helps
>As for what countries people are coming from, 21% of asylum seekers coming here this year have come from Georgia (2,059), while around 13% have come from Somalia (1315) and 11% have arrived from Algeria (1101).
Georgia is ridiculous. It’s considered a safe country of origin by most EU states including Ireland and asylum seekers should be turned around and sent home on the spot. There are nationals from far more dangerous places that actually need protecting we should prioritise over these economic migrants.
When services and finances are stretched to deal with the arrivals politicians and the Irish Times will scratching their heads wondering why far right populists are getting votes.
Most people have no problem with Ukrainians as they are genuinely fleeing a warzone, but many arrivals of military aged men are clearly not, competely taking the piss while clogging up the whole asylum process.
What the irish government hasn’t said is that there are shitloads of EU grants available to countries that take in Ukrainian refugees. These funds are incressing the longer it rolls on. If you meet a certain threshold of refugees you allow in (relative to population) then the funds available increase hugely.
Countries can spend these funds on childcare, education, housing, infrastructure. In my opinion it appears that the government is going gung-ho with bringing in refugees cos they will get a shitload of money to rebuild the country from the EU plus cheap labour. I’m not sure why nobody is asking them these questions. The EU reports are freely available.
They probably had a target in mind on how many refugees to bring in, but didn’t imagine that the war would be rolling on with no end in sight. So there is no longterm plan.
https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/funding/asylum-migration-and-integration-funds/asylum-migration-and-integration-fund-2021-2027_en
.
> Following Ireland’s formal notification of 7 February 2022 to opt-in for participating in AMIF, the Commission confirmed the participation of Ireland in AMIF in Decision (EU) 2022/507 of 29 March 2022. Ireland therefore participates in AMIF as of 7 February 2022. Irish beneficiaries are thus eligible alongside other EU countries, apart from Denmark who is not taking part in AMIF, in accordance with Articles 1 and 2 of Protocol No 22 on the position of Denmark, annexed to the Treaty of the European Union (TEU) and to the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU).
https://ec.europa.eu/european-social-fund-plus/en/news/ukraine-final-adoption-care
Well I’m sick of it! It’s a joke at this stage. Everyone I know is raging about this situation, and rightly so. I work in homeless services and witness the amount of Irish citizens that can’t get housing, yet the idiotic government keep welcoming in these “refugees” in droves. It’s utter insanity!!
All these people coming here with no passports and I get absolutely harassed when I come back home from holidays. I must look like a scumbag or something because I fly in tracksuits
It’s not racist as long as you’re seeing the problem is clearly a government unable to take in 64,000 and not the 64,000 themselves.
This is the reality of electing someone like Martin leader of a country. He’s just incompetent. And if you’ve ever worked with incompetent people, you know it’s always like this. A fiasco built upon the last fiasco.
It is gone a bit nuts as of late. Our government forget that we are a small island with a massive housing crisis for its own people amoung other problems because they want the pat on the back from Europe.
64k arrivals. That’s like the years housing supply just for them.
You’ll be labelled far right however some conservative policies are probably required
The Idea of migration is destructive to the poorest nations on earth. Talks have covered it before – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6tSqGCfoCI
The best of the best of migrants leave there country’s and those are the most productive, we take them and the poor nations get poorer.
MickOConnor_1 seems to obsessed with new arrivals, based on his post history.
Why the victimhood?
We shouldnt be taking asylum seekers from most of these places, ukraine i can understand but its not racist to look at it pragmatically and say bar the ukraine war issue, our borders should be closed to those from outside the EU.
Non eu migrants are net detractors from the economy here and over represent in crime stats.
Awful journalism, just asking all the wrong questions and insinuating motives on the forrenjers while leaving out how the asylum seekers actually arrive as part of a solidarity clause with EU countries like Greece. The question is why is the asylum process- a legal obligation- so shit after all these years.
Finally we are putting the cat on the table.
Simple fact is nearly half the “refugges”, are chances. Fix that and we fix the crux of the problem and all we need to do to stop it is stop taking the piss when it comes to “I lost my passport”, the simple answer to that should be “,right get lost yourself so “
What’s happening in Ireland is exactly what UK has been having for years thus why the government made alot of people vote yes in Brexit because they kept repeating the same thing over ‘we won’t our country back we want our borders back’ this’s how the people really felt the country was becoming overpopulated, system abused by the immigrants you can understand the frustration. Ireland is heading exactly the same route if the government doesn’t halt this which they will most likely won’t because on the international stage they have completely no spine than this country will have massive issue in the near future which will the average hard working person will have to deal with this and not the upper class people protected in their gated communities.
We should address the working holiday visas also and reduce the amount that can get such a visa, we don’t have enough housing, we need to reduce the numbers
Can’t wait until I leave this shithole next year 👍👍👍
Get out there and protest.