Therese has just spilled her Coffey on reading this
17% is triple what most people seem to be getting. Good luck to them, if you dont ask you don’t get.
I’m beginning to think we need a full general strike tbh. At what point is enough enough.
It’s needed to protect patients we can’t keep going on like this.
Fuck the tories.
Nurses will strike. Nurses will win. Tories will make it illegal for Nurses to strike like they did with police officers.
I hope they do, they’ve been exploited and ground down for far too long.
For everyone shocked by the amount they want consider this – you can either work full time for the NHS for £15 an hour. Or you can do the same job with better hours that you schedule for £50 an hour in the same hospital through an agency. That’s the situation right now.
The Prime Minister has made it clear that pay rises for nurses are inflationary and don’t increase growth. She has also made it clear that pay rises for pensioners aren’t inflationary but do increase growth.
The Chancellor has also made it clear that there is no Magic Money Tree to pay out all these public sector pay rises. He has not made it clear at all where the money is coming from to pay for all the tax cuts.
The Prime Minister has said that growth is a priority and we all know that the best way to achieve growth is to start a trade war with the EU and give a tax cut to the wealthiest. Its basic economics.
The Prime Minister has also made it clear that she thinks you are a bunch of idiots who will believe any old shit.
Fucking good. This country needs a reset and reboot and this can hopefully start that, along with all the other strikes.
It’s not just the nurse’s scottish ambulance are talking of strike ss well
Nurses are taken advantage of because the sort of kindhearted selfless person who goes into it doesn’t have the right mentality to stand up for themselves.
Nurses could demand any salary they wanted, but it would involve playing a game of chicken with Tory MPs who couldn’t give a toss about the patient well-being.
The whole “this will cause patients to suffer” idea needs to be immediately responded in every case with “patients are already suffering from a lack of nurses, and will even more with the eventual collapse of the NHS”.
Paying healthcare staff more makes more people want to be healthcare staff, which simultaneously solves:
– Shortage of healthcare professionals
– Paying out the ass for outside contractors
– Burnout in the profession where few are doing the job of the many
When you need your car to get to work, and it’s on it’s last legs, you take a day off work to get it fixed. This is that day.
This is a huge step for nurses. Obviously the Tory press will run a massive smear campaign but I can’t imagine how desperate things must be for nurses to even consider strike action.
17% is probably deserved but it seems like a pretty huge demand to make.
Good. My only question is what took em so long ?
Nurses have been treated like shit for years. Hell all health care professionals have. Wages are shite for the hours and times worked. Car parking fees are fucking nuts.
100% got my support. I’ll head to the local picket line and take donughts pizza and a donation for the strike fund. If they have one.
Side note CWU need to get a strike fund going so they can accept donations.
We need a general strike until Truss is out. She is an unelected leader without the backing of the people.
UNION’S BEEN ON STRIKE, HE’S DOWN ON HIS LUCK, SO TOUGH… MMMMM SO TOUGHHHHH
As a training grade doctor I think I’m about to have some of the hardest shifts of my life. We are so fucked without our nurses.
Still 100% support them.
I understand that most medical care staff are over worked, underpaid and under-appreciated. I do support this but please correct me if I’m wrong. If they go on strike and leave their positions, any patients/ future patients are at risk. And under oath all medical staff take (im paraphrasing here) ‘I will not harm or neglect patients and will do all I can to help them’. Surly this goes against that oath?
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Hurry stop drinking ur tea there’s a strike coming lol
So I was told by a matron that they’ve done an analysis of the minimum amount of nurses who would have to work through a strike to not cause significant damage.
We’re not currently reaching that level and we’re not on strike.
Militant Nurses they got claps JRM doesn’t even get those, most of the bench only get the noun.
Medical professionals that strike aren’t harming their patients. It’s the system and those running it to the ground, forcing nurses to strike, that are harming the patients
Absolutely agree with strike action as a nurse myself (in mental health). I am in a community job which is hectic but I love my work, the reality is that we do not have enough nurses to fill vacancies – we are not even getting applications a lot of the time in my team and when a nurse is off sick then we are down to below the bare minimum of what we have been managing on – trying to keep on top of insane caseloads where patients can have significant risk. It isn’t safe or sustainable and there have been colleagues that have had to go off with stress/anxiety/depression – completely understandably considering unrealistic expectations. Many nurses do unpaid overtime (though where I can I discourage this in my team as they too need a work life balance and it only serves to make management think we are able to do more than we actually can within working hours).
I also strike for colleagues that are even worse off than my team, some of which are firefighting and unable to give the care they would like to because they do not have the time for prevention work – they are trying to keep their patients alive and doing a juggling act of too many patients with significant risk.
We need more nurses to come into the profession but it is not well paid for what we do and the risk we carry, there is no longer a bursary so students are essentially paying to learn – then we pay yearly to stay on the register in order to work (£120) – and that, to feel overwhelmed and your PIN at risk daily due to pressures and being unable to give the time/therapies you would like to the people that need it? No. I wouldn’t sign up for that now either.
I strike for our patients to recieve a more timely and better health mental health care service that is preventative and therapeutic rather than effectively fire fighting and only able to address those that are at significant risk of harm to themselves. I strike for my colleagues that have too many patients and not enough time, that stay after work to care for patients in their own time because they feel they have to, that worry in the night and anxious tossing and turning because they have patients that are in crisis and they don’t know what they will walk into in the morning. I strike for the nurses of tomorrow that need better working conditions and pay.
Hoping to strike but will have to see. I lead a small team so may not be able to have us all on strike
I’m a nurse and received my email from Unison today. The problem with my role is that the Government relies on our goodwill to keep going. A nurse on tik tok yesterday showed a copy of her payslip from 2007 and she was earning the same then as I am now. After cost of living, inflation over 15 years, I’m effectively earning a lot less in a world that costs far more.
It simply won’t work for very much longer.
Nurses and doctors are taken for granted, yes they should strike until they are taken seriously and appreciated for the crucial roles they play
My mums a nurse, I encouraged to her to vote for striking.
The thing is, public sector pay could be sorted in a second if we were actually a democracy, but no. I’m with the nurses Royal Mail workers rail workers and anyone else who decides to go on strike at this point we need a general strike across the U.K. not returning until demands are met. Not just pay either some of benefits that come with average jobs now have gone downhill too.
Ex-NHS paramedic here, left 2019.
Just wanna say firstly, calling people scabs because they don’t want to strike is pathetic and childish, we aren’t in a playground here, calling people names because they don’t do what we want. That’s honestly just bullying mentality and a poor way to get fellow health care workers to side with you.
Anyway. The NHS is sinking at an alarming rate. I had paramedics out this week for my step father who was Covid positive and also had sepsis. We waited maybe 3 hours for P2 back up as it was a car that first attended and then he spent 11 hours in the ambulance before being seen in A&E. There were over 25 ambulances waiting to drop off patients. It’s snowballing at an out of control rate. Staff are leaving in droves for the private sector (I recently looked at a para job in a prison and it was almost £10k more than an NHS salary) or they are giving up their medical careers entirely. Conditions are horrendous for staff and patients alike and the situation is critical.
Is striking the way forward? I’m not sure and as I don’t work in the NHS currently, I don’t wanna have an opinion on it. But something needs to be done. Staff are being worked into the ground and literally selling their souls for the job right now and earning honestly the bare minimum for it. We can’t expect people to want to do this line of work, regardless of how passionate they are for it.
What has the union been doing for 10 years. No payrises over that time and now they need a 20% or 30% raise to be where they should be relative to 2010.
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Therese has just spilled her Coffey on reading this
17% is triple what most people seem to be getting. Good luck to them, if you dont ask you don’t get.
I’m beginning to think we need a full general strike tbh. At what point is enough enough.
It’s needed to protect patients we can’t keep going on like this.
Fuck the tories.
Nurses will strike. Nurses will win. Tories will make it illegal for Nurses to strike like they did with police officers.
I hope they do, they’ve been exploited and ground down for far too long.
For everyone shocked by the amount they want consider this – you can either work full time for the NHS for £15 an hour. Or you can do the same job with better hours that you schedule for £50 an hour in the same hospital through an agency. That’s the situation right now.
The Prime Minister has made it clear that pay rises for nurses are inflationary and don’t increase growth. She has also made it clear that pay rises for pensioners aren’t inflationary but do increase growth.
The Chancellor has also made it clear that there is no Magic Money Tree to pay out all these public sector pay rises. He has not made it clear at all where the money is coming from to pay for all the tax cuts.
The Prime Minister has said that growth is a priority and we all know that the best way to achieve growth is to start a trade war with the EU and give a tax cut to the wealthiest. Its basic economics.
The Prime Minister has also made it clear that she thinks you are a bunch of idiots who will believe any old shit.
Fucking good. This country needs a reset and reboot and this can hopefully start that, along with all the other strikes.
It’s not just the nurse’s scottish ambulance are talking of strike ss well
Nurses are taken advantage of because the sort of kindhearted selfless person who goes into it doesn’t have the right mentality to stand up for themselves.
Nurses could demand any salary they wanted, but it would involve playing a game of chicken with Tory MPs who couldn’t give a toss about the patient well-being.
The whole “this will cause patients to suffer” idea needs to be immediately responded in every case with “patients are already suffering from a lack of nurses, and will even more with the eventual collapse of the NHS”.
Paying healthcare staff more makes more people want to be healthcare staff, which simultaneously solves:
– Shortage of healthcare professionals
– Paying out the ass for outside contractors
– Burnout in the profession where few are doing the job of the many
When you need your car to get to work, and it’s on it’s last legs, you take a day off work to get it fixed. This is that day.
This is a huge step for nurses. Obviously the Tory press will run a massive smear campaign but I can’t imagine how desperate things must be for nurses to even consider strike action.
17% is probably deserved but it seems like a pretty huge demand to make.
Good. My only question is what took em so long ?
Nurses have been treated like shit for years. Hell all health care professionals have. Wages are shite for the hours and times worked. Car parking fees are fucking nuts.
100% got my support. I’ll head to the local picket line and take donughts pizza and a donation for the strike fund. If they have one.
Side note CWU need to get a strike fund going so they can accept donations.
We need a general strike until Truss is out. She is an unelected leader without the backing of the people.
UNION’S BEEN ON STRIKE, HE’S DOWN ON HIS LUCK, SO TOUGH… MMMMM SO TOUGHHHHH
As a training grade doctor I think I’m about to have some of the hardest shifts of my life. We are so fucked without our nurses.
Still 100% support them.
I understand that most medical care staff are over worked, underpaid and under-appreciated. I do support this but please correct me if I’m wrong. If they go on strike and leave their positions, any patients/ future patients are at risk. And under oath all medical staff take (im paraphrasing here) ‘I will not harm or neglect patients and will do all I can to help them’. Surly this goes against that oath?
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Hurry stop drinking ur tea there’s a strike coming lol
So I was told by a matron that they’ve done an analysis of the minimum amount of nurses who would have to work through a strike to not cause significant damage.
We’re not currently reaching that level and we’re not on strike.
Militant Nurses they got claps JRM doesn’t even get those, most of the bench only get the noun.
Medical professionals that strike aren’t harming their patients. It’s the system and those running it to the ground, forcing nurses to strike, that are harming the patients
Absolutely agree with strike action as a nurse myself (in mental health). I am in a community job which is hectic but I love my work, the reality is that we do not have enough nurses to fill vacancies – we are not even getting applications a lot of the time in my team and when a nurse is off sick then we are down to below the bare minimum of what we have been managing on – trying to keep on top of insane caseloads where patients can have significant risk. It isn’t safe or sustainable and there have been colleagues that have had to go off with stress/anxiety/depression – completely understandably considering unrealistic expectations. Many nurses do unpaid overtime (though where I can I discourage this in my team as they too need a work life balance and it only serves to make management think we are able to do more than we actually can within working hours).
I also strike for colleagues that are even worse off than my team, some of which are firefighting and unable to give the care they would like to because they do not have the time for prevention work – they are trying to keep their patients alive and doing a juggling act of too many patients with significant risk.
We need more nurses to come into the profession but it is not well paid for what we do and the risk we carry, there is no longer a bursary so students are essentially paying to learn – then we pay yearly to stay on the register in order to work (£120) – and that, to feel overwhelmed and your PIN at risk daily due to pressures and being unable to give the time/therapies you would like to the people that need it? No. I wouldn’t sign up for that now either.
I strike for our patients to recieve a more timely and better health mental health care service that is preventative and therapeutic rather than effectively fire fighting and only able to address those that are at significant risk of harm to themselves. I strike for my colleagues that have too many patients and not enough time, that stay after work to care for patients in their own time because they feel they have to, that worry in the night and anxious tossing and turning because they have patients that are in crisis and they don’t know what they will walk into in the morning. I strike for the nurses of tomorrow that need better working conditions and pay.
Hoping to strike but will have to see. I lead a small team so may not be able to have us all on strike
I’m a nurse and received my email from Unison today. The problem with my role is that the Government relies on our goodwill to keep going. A nurse on tik tok yesterday showed a copy of her payslip from 2007 and she was earning the same then as I am now. After cost of living, inflation over 15 years, I’m effectively earning a lot less in a world that costs far more.
It simply won’t work for very much longer.
Nurses and doctors are taken for granted, yes they should strike until they are taken seriously and appreciated for the crucial roles they play
My mums a nurse, I encouraged to her to vote for striking.
The thing is, public sector pay could be sorted in a second if we were actually a democracy, but no. I’m with the nurses Royal Mail workers rail workers and anyone else who decides to go on strike at this point we need a general strike across the U.K. not returning until demands are met. Not just pay either some of benefits that come with average jobs now have gone downhill too.
Ex-NHS paramedic here, left 2019.
Just wanna say firstly, calling people scabs because they don’t want to strike is pathetic and childish, we aren’t in a playground here, calling people names because they don’t do what we want. That’s honestly just bullying mentality and a poor way to get fellow health care workers to side with you.
Anyway. The NHS is sinking at an alarming rate. I had paramedics out this week for my step father who was Covid positive and also had sepsis. We waited maybe 3 hours for P2 back up as it was a car that first attended and then he spent 11 hours in the ambulance before being seen in A&E. There were over 25 ambulances waiting to drop off patients. It’s snowballing at an out of control rate. Staff are leaving in droves for the private sector (I recently looked at a para job in a prison and it was almost £10k more than an NHS salary) or they are giving up their medical careers entirely. Conditions are horrendous for staff and patients alike and the situation is critical.
Is striking the way forward? I’m not sure and as I don’t work in the NHS currently, I don’t wanna have an opinion on it. But something needs to be done. Staff are being worked into the ground and literally selling their souls for the job right now and earning honestly the bare minimum for it. We can’t expect people to want to do this line of work, regardless of how passionate they are for it.
What has the union been doing for 10 years. No payrises over that time and now they need a 20% or 30% raise to be where they should be relative to 2010.