> Te voet pistolets halen? Dat doen Belgen niet graag. Meer nog: van alle Europeanen doen wij korte afstanden het minst te voet. Dat blijkt uit een grootschalige Europese bevraging naar het gedrag van fietsers, voetgangers en motorrijders. “De Belg neemt nog te vaak de wagen voor kleine verplaatsingen”, zegt Vias-woordvoerder Stef Willems.
If you build everything with a focus on appeasing car drivers you are directly the cause of this behaviour.
NOW I understand why everyone hates the circulation plan in our town.
I always go by foot to the bakery. It’s only a ten minute walk. It makes the koffiekoeken and coffee taste better, especially on a cold morning like today.
In Flanders you can feel this social expectation.
When cars come out of driveways and want to go onto the road, they systematically don’t stop where the pedestrian walkway starts, but they stop at the curb of the road. In their minds, there are just not supposed to be pedestrians here, full stop.
Bike lanes are a different story though, those are very prominent in the minds of car drivers and almost never get ignored.
What a surprise.
-takes the car to the mailbox, but also:
complains about gas prices
I live in Brussels and I’ve never seen someone take the car to go to the bakery lol
Also when I used to live in Flanders I saw so many people go to the bakery by bike. This was like 8 years ago so dunno what suddenly changed lol
All anecdotal of course but wasn’t my experience at all
I do almost everything on foot. But then I do live in a city where walking is just more convenient. If you’re one of those poor sods in a lintbebouwing, yeah…
Well what do you expect. Lintbebouwing much?
Most people don’t have somewhere to walk to, cause the nearest town center is already a 5 minute drive.
Nergens in Europa hebben we zoveel firmawagens…kom net van de bakker trouwens…
Gas isn’t expensive enough yet it seems.
Kzal es een foto pakken van de fietspaden bij mij; dat is een paradijs voor tandartsen. Ik wil maar zeggen, er is hier genoeg volk die te voet/fietst naar de bakker maar die pakken dus grote risico’s of ze hebben een keigoeie verzekering voor op-hun-smoel-gaan-door-een-put-in-de-weg.
Lol, I often go to the bakery at the same time as a neighbour 2 doors down. He takes the car, I just walk.
Usually I arrive earlier unless he gets really lucky with parking.
I have a condition where I sweat A LOT. Not just a shiny thin layer of sweat, but the dripping down type of sweat. When I walk or do anything, it just comes pouring out.
This leads me to take the car to almost anywhere to avoid sweating and I am truly ashamed of it. It’s so bad that when standing still in a crowd while thinking “ah shit im sweating” I start to sweat even more (because of fear?). It’s a downwards spiral from there on.
Now I can hear some people thinking, dude prolly weighs 250kg and eats 20 donuts for breakfast. Well I’m quite fit, thats the strange thing about it. Doctors have no clue what it is either -_-
I go on foot when the weather is decent, by bike if it’s raining.
I’m not lazy enough to take the car I guess.
Te voet, maar als je kijkt hoeveel autos er aan de bakkers bij ons stoppen, is dat wel enorm veel meer. Hor ver kan je van uw lokale bakker wonen? Das toch zelden meer dan een paar km?
I started the walking habit when I lived in Bxl, and now I lived to Mechelen I try to do it as often as before, but the scenery is less inviting.
Once I read something about some research done on time perceived while walking in the countryside or walking in a city, but I can’t find it anymore.
I love walking,
It’s a good hobby to have. Only pro’s.
Growing up in a small town where a sidewalk was something only seen in movies, we took the car for everything.
Moved to Ghent in my early 20s, car to work but everything else I did on foot. Even taking the bike was more of a hassle then it was worth.
Moved out of Ghent and back to the car habits. Sorry, walking for a half hour in the dirt, on ankle twisting sidewalks or biking on pothole bike lanes is just not worth it…
I admit: when I still lived with my parents in the suburbs and we had 2 cars parked in front of the door, I took the car to the bakery which was 300m from my doorstep.
Now I live in the city center and I have no car anymore, I’ll walk or use my bike for everything below 10km.
I once saw a guy taking his car to the bakery which was only 200 meters further. I bet he would have been faster on foot, as he had to find parking twice. It was a company car with advertising on the side. Ok, it was cold, but there were plenty of people on their bikes, and I was one of them. I still don’t understand the reasoning.
Don’t blame the people
Met de fiets vind ik geen probleem. Het vervuilt niet. En je krijgt nog eens beweging ook.
Al de rest echter…
I do bakery by foot, but do admit I take the car to go to the frituur, since it’s better to drive 30 seconds than walk 10 minutes.
So.. company car owners. How’s life ?
I prefer going by bike
De xaiomi Estep of segway zal wel populairder worden aan een snel tempo denk ik. Ik heb a Ninebot en is de max voor kortere afstanden
This is personal, but if it’s faster by bike, I go by bike. I’ll only walk if something is like 100meters away, 200 max.
Ik heb mijn liefde voor recreatief fietsen ontdekt toen ik niet mocht autorijden door een breuk. Nu fiets ik maar al te graag korte afstanden!
I live less than one km away from a local grocery who also sells fresh bread. I am one of maybe 4 people in the entire suburb that goes there on foot. On Sunday morning I often get passed by cars that come from my street and see them parked on the parking of that shop. Bonus points: they are diesel cars (very bad for the engine to regularly or exclusively drive short distances)
Met de Belgische lintbebouwing vraag ik me vooral af wie op wandelafstand van een bakker woont. En wat definieer je als wandelafstand?
De dichtste bakker hier is anderhalve km. Ik zou dat nooit tevoet doen. ‘t Is een ambetante wandeling en er is geen voetpad. In de terugkeer loop je ook bijna constant bergop. Door centrum Gent wandelen vind ik dan bv geen enkel probleem terwijl ik daar veel grotere afstanden kan afleggen.
Went for my covid shot and had to walk 25 minutes to get there and people were ooh my god that’s so far away 🥹
America says: hold my beer.
I once saw my neighbor in Atlanta drive 30m to the mailbox of the (small) housing complex, then back to her door.
My city changed to a 30km/h speed limit almost everywhere, barring a few roads (*). I fucking love it. And most people I know complain about it. But I am going to get rid of my car, whereas they mostly drive around in their cars. When I used a car the last few weeks, it took me much longer to get anywhere. So using a bike will now be more or less equally fast. And cheaper. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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(*) they forgot to put up the signs in the one-way streets, so with your bike you can now legally go over 30 :p
And then, since they’ve taken the car having to park it some distance away by lack of available spaces exactly in front of the bakery… they’ll just double park with their indicators flashing while queueing in the bakery.
I used to live around the corner of a bakery, walking from home I’ll pass several empty spaces to then turn the corner and witness the traffic chaos caused by these lazy bums.
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> Te voet pistolets halen? Dat doen Belgen niet graag. Meer nog: van alle Europeanen doen wij korte afstanden het minst te voet. Dat blijkt uit een grootschalige Europese bevraging naar het gedrag van fietsers, voetgangers en motorrijders. “De Belg neemt nog te vaak de wagen voor kleine verplaatsingen”, zegt Vias-woordvoerder Stef Willems.
If you build everything with a focus on appeasing car drivers you are directly the cause of this behaviour.
NOW I understand why everyone hates the circulation plan in our town.
I always go by foot to the bakery. It’s only a ten minute walk. It makes the koffiekoeken and coffee taste better, especially on a cold morning like today.
In Flanders you can feel this social expectation.
When cars come out of driveways and want to go onto the road, they systematically don’t stop where the pedestrian walkway starts, but they stop at the curb of the road. In their minds, there are just not supposed to be pedestrians here, full stop.
Bike lanes are a different story though, those are very prominent in the minds of car drivers and almost never get ignored.
What a surprise.
-takes the car to the mailbox, but also:
complains about gas prices
I live in Brussels and I’ve never seen someone take the car to go to the bakery lol
Also when I used to live in Flanders I saw so many people go to the bakery by bike. This was like 8 years ago so dunno what suddenly changed lol
All anecdotal of course but wasn’t my experience at all
I do almost everything on foot. But then I do live in a city where walking is just more convenient. If you’re one of those poor sods in a lintbebouwing, yeah…
Well what do you expect. Lintbebouwing much?
Most people don’t have somewhere to walk to, cause the nearest town center is already a 5 minute drive.
Nergens in Europa hebben we zoveel firmawagens…kom net van de bakker trouwens…
Gas isn’t expensive enough yet it seems.
Kzal es een foto pakken van de fietspaden bij mij; dat is een paradijs voor tandartsen. Ik wil maar zeggen, er is hier genoeg volk die te voet/fietst naar de bakker maar die pakken dus grote risico’s of ze hebben een keigoeie verzekering voor op-hun-smoel-gaan-door-een-put-in-de-weg.
Lol, I often go to the bakery at the same time as a neighbour 2 doors down. He takes the car, I just walk.
Usually I arrive earlier unless he gets really lucky with parking.
I have a condition where I sweat A LOT. Not just a shiny thin layer of sweat, but the dripping down type of sweat. When I walk or do anything, it just comes pouring out.
This leads me to take the car to almost anywhere to avoid sweating and I am truly ashamed of it. It’s so bad that when standing still in a crowd while thinking “ah shit im sweating” I start to sweat even more (because of fear?). It’s a downwards spiral from there on.
Now I can hear some people thinking, dude prolly weighs 250kg and eats 20 donuts for breakfast. Well I’m quite fit, thats the strange thing about it. Doctors have no clue what it is either -_-
I go on foot when the weather is decent, by bike if it’s raining.
I’m not lazy enough to take the car I guess.
Te voet, maar als je kijkt hoeveel autos er aan de bakkers bij ons stoppen, is dat wel enorm veel meer. Hor ver kan je van uw lokale bakker wonen? Das toch zelden meer dan een paar km?
I started the walking habit when I lived in Bxl, and now I lived to Mechelen I try to do it as often as before, but the scenery is less inviting.
Once I read something about some research done on time perceived while walking in the countryside or walking in a city, but I can’t find it anymore.
I love walking,
It’s a good hobby to have. Only pro’s.
Growing up in a small town where a sidewalk was something only seen in movies, we took the car for everything.
Moved to Ghent in my early 20s, car to work but everything else I did on foot. Even taking the bike was more of a hassle then it was worth.
Moved out of Ghent and back to the car habits. Sorry, walking for a half hour in the dirt, on ankle twisting sidewalks or biking on pothole bike lanes is just not worth it…
I admit: when I still lived with my parents in the suburbs and we had 2 cars parked in front of the door, I took the car to the bakery which was 300m from my doorstep.
Now I live in the city center and I have no car anymore, I’ll walk or use my bike for everything below 10km.
I once saw a guy taking his car to the bakery which was only 200 meters further. I bet he would have been faster on foot, as he had to find parking twice. It was a company car with advertising on the side. Ok, it was cold, but there were plenty of people on their bikes, and I was one of them. I still don’t understand the reasoning.
Don’t blame the people
Met de fiets vind ik geen probleem. Het vervuilt niet. En je krijgt nog eens beweging ook.
Al de rest echter…
I do bakery by foot, but do admit I take the car to go to the frituur, since it’s better to drive 30 seconds than walk 10 minutes.
So.. company car owners. How’s life ?
I prefer going by bike
De xaiomi Estep of segway zal wel populairder worden aan een snel tempo denk ik. Ik heb a Ninebot en is de max voor kortere afstanden
This is personal, but if it’s faster by bike, I go by bike. I’ll only walk if something is like 100meters away, 200 max.
Ik heb mijn liefde voor recreatief fietsen ontdekt toen ik niet mocht autorijden door een breuk. Nu fiets ik maar al te graag korte afstanden!
I live less than one km away from a local grocery who also sells fresh bread. I am one of maybe 4 people in the entire suburb that goes there on foot. On Sunday morning I often get passed by cars that come from my street and see them parked on the parking of that shop. Bonus points: they are diesel cars (very bad for the engine to regularly or exclusively drive short distances)
Met de Belgische lintbebouwing vraag ik me vooral af wie op wandelafstand van een bakker woont. En wat definieer je als wandelafstand?
De dichtste bakker hier is anderhalve km. Ik zou dat nooit tevoet doen. ‘t Is een ambetante wandeling en er is geen voetpad. In de terugkeer loop je ook bijna constant bergop. Door centrum Gent wandelen vind ik dan bv geen enkel probleem terwijl ik daar veel grotere afstanden kan afleggen.
Went for my covid shot and had to walk 25 minutes to get there and people were ooh my god that’s so far away 🥹
America says: hold my beer.
I once saw my neighbor in Atlanta drive 30m to the mailbox of the (small) housing complex, then back to her door.
My city changed to a 30km/h speed limit almost everywhere, barring a few roads (*). I fucking love it. And most people I know complain about it. But I am going to get rid of my car, whereas they mostly drive around in their cars. When I used a car the last few weeks, it took me much longer to get anywhere. So using a bike will now be more or less equally fast. And cheaper. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
​
(*) they forgot to put up the signs in the one-way streets, so with your bike you can now legally go over 30 :p
And then, since they’ve taken the car having to park it some distance away by lack of available spaces exactly in front of the bakery… they’ll just double park with their indicators flashing while queueing in the bakery.
I used to live around the corner of a bakery, walking from home I’ll pass several empty spaces to then turn the corner and witness the traffic chaos caused by these lazy bums.