Got out of his van with the intention of assaulting him, left him unconscious and has prior history of assault. How does that not merit a jail sentence?
> the UK simply does not take dangerous car drivers seriously.
> The court heard Rawlins had a previous caution for a similar attack on a cyclist, and had anger management training as a teenager.
So he has previous for this kind of violent behaviour and has already been in trouble for it.
> He received a two-year sentence suspended for two years and was ordered to complete 150 hours unpaid work, as well as pay £920 in costs and compensation.
Utterly pathetic given what he did to the poor chap.
Black teenagers frequently get imprisoned under joint enterprise laws when someone they happen to associate with stabs someone. Why wasn’t this pricks gormless chum who clearly gets out of the van to support the assault also convicted?
I sincerely hope he lost his job as well. Seeing how he was driving a company van at the time
As a cyclist I’ve been in multiple situations where a driver has threatened me with violence. Luckily for me I’m a physically fit 20-something and everyone who has threatened me has been a paunchy middle age type who, quickly, realise they don’t really want the confrontation. For many people even one such incident would put them off cycling for life.
It utterly defies belief that this dick was not given a jail sentence and a driving ban.
Honestly, I just don’t get the anti-cycling crap going on in this country.
> The victim was left with concussion and severe bruising to his ribs which caused him headaches and trouble breathing for months after the attack.
> He received a two-year sentence suspended for two years and was ordered to complete 150 hours unpaid work, as well as pay £920 in costs and compensation.
No wonder it’s the second time hes carried out this type of attack.
No prison sentence, less than a month community service and £920 compensation.
As this is a second offence, it should be one year prison sentence, add on the two years suspended, 3-6 months community service and £5000 fine.
A third offence should result in a castration.
Imagine punching the shit out of someone whilst you have the company logo plastered all over for people to see. I don’t normally condone review bombing, because it’s easy for similar named businesses to be caught in the cross fire… but this one seems pretty easy.
What a complete disgrace. Take the guy’s licence so he’s off the road and can’t work. What an absolute piece of shit.
150 hours of unpaid work and £920? That’s it?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Ran him over and then knocked him unconscious.
That is an absolute pisstake.
Not only would I go for any means possible to have the case reviewed, I would “teach him a lesson” in the civil courts (and his company too).
I don’t understand how you can get away with behaviour like this.
Only a matter of time until he kills a cyclist and then, it’s easy enough to avoid jail
Light sentences are nothing new. Over 30 years ago I was assaulted through my open car window in a queue, for what I don’t know, by the scruffy driver ahead who I thought was lost. He sped off on the pavement bypassing the queue scattering pedestrians as he went. I was off work with facial injuries, later spent a week in hospital when an operation to repair the damage went wrong and then years later further complications left me in excruciating pain repeatedly over a year. The police were great, got loads of statements from witnesses to the attack being unprovoked and eventually found the unregistered vehicle and it’s driver.
The court warned me not to attend court as “it couldn’t guarantee my safety and didn’t want me to provoke a reaction from his supporters”. He got an unconditional discharge (ie “technically you’re guilty but don’t worry about it”) and, in today’s money, £100 costs and £150 compensation at £3 per week. It took 2 years to get any money, and only after I repeatedly pressured the courts.
I couldn’t get an answer from the courts for this sentence or if he was punished for his other actions too. I lost my faith in the court system but felt sympathy for the Police having their efforts snubbed by courts.
The justice system is fucked in this country. Then you get fed bullshit like crime is down hahaha
What is wrong with our society where people think an appropriate response to anything is punching someone unconscious? As a second offence this seems more like a mental health issue rather than anything else.
Wait… How comes he wasn’t given a driving ban for this reckless endangerment?
Jesus how did he not even loose his license?? That should be a permanent driving ban and a jail sentence since he’s a violent, on predictable and uncontrolled thug with form for a similar previous incident.
It’s cases like this where you wish the victim was part of the crime world rather than being a business analyst, least there might actually be some consequences for the bastard then.
The cherry no the cake is he was ordered to attend an anger management course. Because the last one he was sent on worked so well!
Surely the last anger management course was his “opportunity to address his anger”. WTF.
The sentence doesn’t massively shock me.
Last December I was jumped walking back to a taxi rank after a night out in an unprovoked attack and had my head penalty kicked 3 times. Remarkably I came out of it generally ok with some brusing and a concussion. I woke up with about 6 officers all with body cams questioning the cunts who did it and in the end they let them go.
I got an automated police text a few days later… I can’t remember exactly what it said but it was something along the lines of ‘due to a lack of evidence, we do not feel it is proportionate to allocate resources to investigate this matter further’.
It’s crazy what people can get away with especially with such blatant evidence.
Lads gonna eventually meet someone who knows how to fight and he’s gonna have a bad day
But if he was caught with cannabis, they would want him in jail for a class A drug.
Nearly killing a man? No jail.
Isn’t it weird that the biggest dickheads have their mobile numbers and names on the side of their vehicles. Makes them really easy to target and harass.
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What! How can the justice system have reached this outcome? Its 2 minutes later, premeditated, extremely dangerous driving, then severe assault.
Can anyone with legal experience explain this to a layman?
Jesus Christ. You can apparently run someone down, ram them off the road, assault them and leave them unconscious – with a history of violent crime – and face absolutely no fucking punishment.
The next time he can just run someone over and drive off and no one will be the wiser. Lesson learned! /s
What a pithy sentence and meagre compensation that doesn’t come close to touching the damage caused. What a disgrace of a country we live in that judges care more about the lives of criminals than their victims.
Tracked him down through his employer – however doesn’t mention if he lost his job or not, surely he would have done??
If you want to kill someone and get away with it, hit them with your car.
I just got back from a long weekend in Amsterdam. It was weird being in a country where cyclists seem to essentially have right of way over everyone, which isn’t a problem because they have the infrastructure to support it.
Helps that everything is flat I suppose. Still, it was enough to make me wonder how many of the “we don’t have space” excuses for poor cycling infrastructure are actually valid. They’re practically living on top of each other over there and seem to have managed.
Take his license away, now.
Then put him in prison for a few months.
Reading the responses to the bbc news article on twitter is so depressing. A lot of people saying the cyclist deserved it and using it as a platform to complain about cycling in general. Don’t these people realise these folks have families they want to get home to just like everyone else.
Who was the judge, Jeremy Clarkson? Terrible ruling.
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But most of all: he didn’t lose his license? This guy is clearly not to be trusted with heavy machinery. Next time, he will ram a cyclist with the van.
Im so on the edge when I cycle in London. Feels like every driver is just a micro aggression away from punching people out.
Thankfully the guy had a camera otherwise he would have got away with it completely
Needs to lose his license, people with such temperament shouldn’t be allowed near a vehicle
This is the logical and expected endpoint of the media churning out and normalising anti-cyclist sentiment. I could click on almost any article about cyclists and find comments with hundreds of likes fantasising about running them off the road and kicking their heads in for the crime of travelling on two wheels, and the moderators just allow them.
Can we start calling it stochastic terrorism yet?
Surely a driving ban would be merited at the very least. He’s clearly not someone who should be behind a wheel.
Bristol Property Maintenence eh. How about a campaign to boycott this guys business?
There are a massive amount of sheer dickheads like this guy in this country. I went to school with loads of people like him.
Lots of people want to leave negative reviews for this company which I can understand however if you search up the company name it’ll GIVE YOU THE WRONG COMPANY. Search up the phone number which you can see on the video to get the proper company.
Edit: I was talking about Google reviews and not Yell. The correct company is receiving the negative reviews on Yell.
>”Any kind of infraction of the highway code from cyclists is met with rage from people who may do plenty of things outside the highway code as well, but because it’s a cyclist they see that differently.”
This is absolutely spot on. Who among we car drivers can honestly claim to have adhered 100% perfectly to the Highway Code through our years of driving? Yet a cyclist rides too far from the kerb and they receive all manner of abuse. Until a year ago I cycled to work every day, and saw far too much fuckery to keep track of. As a result, I try to give cyclists as wide a berth as possible.
Two onto one and using a van for initial attack , both should get 5 years
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Got out of his van with the intention of assaulting him, left him unconscious and has prior history of assault. How does that not merit a jail sentence?
> the UK simply does not take dangerous car drivers seriously.
[Source (me)](https://reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/xvomfy/driver_in_untaxed_car_with_expired_mot_mounts/ir2ad0g?context=3)
> The court heard Rawlins had a previous caution for a similar attack on a cyclist, and had anger management training as a teenager.
So he has previous for this kind of violent behaviour and has already been in trouble for it.
> He received a two-year sentence suspended for two years and was ordered to complete 150 hours unpaid work, as well as pay £920 in costs and compensation.
Utterly pathetic given what he did to the poor chap.
Black teenagers frequently get imprisoned under joint enterprise laws when someone they happen to associate with stabs someone. Why wasn’t this pricks gormless chum who clearly gets out of the van to support the assault also convicted?
I sincerely hope he lost his job as well. Seeing how he was driving a company van at the time
As a cyclist I’ve been in multiple situations where a driver has threatened me with violence. Luckily for me I’m a physically fit 20-something and everyone who has threatened me has been a paunchy middle age type who, quickly, realise they don’t really want the confrontation. For many people even one such incident would put them off cycling for life.
Research says many drivers view cyclists as less than human: https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/qv78zb/drivers-think-bikers-are-less-than-human-survey-says it’s disgusting and disgraceful and it’s no way near as rare as the incidents that make headlines.
It utterly defies belief that this dick was not given a jail sentence and a driving ban.
Honestly, I just don’t get the anti-cycling crap going on in this country.
> The victim was left with concussion and severe bruising to his ribs which caused him headaches and trouble breathing for months after the attack.
> He received a two-year sentence suspended for two years and was ordered to complete 150 hours unpaid work, as well as pay £920 in costs and compensation.
No wonder it’s the second time hes carried out this type of attack.
No prison sentence, less than a month community service and £920 compensation.
As this is a second offence, it should be one year prison sentence, add on the two years suspended, 3-6 months community service and £5000 fine.
A third offence should result in a castration.
Imagine punching the shit out of someone whilst you have the company logo plastered all over for people to see. I don’t normally condone review bombing, because it’s easy for similar named businesses to be caught in the cross fire… but this one seems pretty easy.
What a complete disgrace. Take the guy’s licence so he’s off the road and can’t work. What an absolute piece of shit.
150 hours of unpaid work and £920? That’s it?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Ran him over and then knocked him unconscious.
That is an absolute pisstake.
Not only would I go for any means possible to have the case reviewed, I would “teach him a lesson” in the civil courts (and his company too).
I don’t understand how you can get away with behaviour like this.
Only a matter of time until he kills a cyclist and then, it’s easy enough to avoid jail
Light sentences are nothing new. Over 30 years ago I was assaulted through my open car window in a queue, for what I don’t know, by the scruffy driver ahead who I thought was lost. He sped off on the pavement bypassing the queue scattering pedestrians as he went. I was off work with facial injuries, later spent a week in hospital when an operation to repair the damage went wrong and then years later further complications left me in excruciating pain repeatedly over a year. The police were great, got loads of statements from witnesses to the attack being unprovoked and eventually found the unregistered vehicle and it’s driver.
The court warned me not to attend court as “it couldn’t guarantee my safety and didn’t want me to provoke a reaction from his supporters”. He got an unconditional discharge (ie “technically you’re guilty but don’t worry about it”) and, in today’s money, £100 costs and £150 compensation at £3 per week. It took 2 years to get any money, and only after I repeatedly pressured the courts.
I couldn’t get an answer from the courts for this sentence or if he was punished for his other actions too. I lost my faith in the court system but felt sympathy for the Police having their efforts snubbed by courts.
The justice system is fucked in this country. Then you get fed bullshit like crime is down hahaha
What is wrong with our society where people think an appropriate response to anything is punching someone unconscious? As a second offence this seems more like a mental health issue rather than anything else.
Wait… How comes he wasn’t given a driving ban for this reckless endangerment?
Jesus how did he not even loose his license?? That should be a permanent driving ban and a jail sentence since he’s a violent, on predictable and uncontrolled thug with form for a similar previous incident.
It’s cases like this where you wish the victim was part of the crime world rather than being a business analyst, least there might actually be some consequences for the bastard then.
The cherry no the cake is he was ordered to attend an anger management course. Because the last one he was sent on worked so well!
Surely the last anger management course was his “opportunity to address his anger”. WTF.
The sentence doesn’t massively shock me.
Last December I was jumped walking back to a taxi rank after a night out in an unprovoked attack and had my head penalty kicked 3 times. Remarkably I came out of it generally ok with some brusing and a concussion. I woke up with about 6 officers all with body cams questioning the cunts who did it and in the end they let them go.
I got an automated police text a few days later… I can’t remember exactly what it said but it was something along the lines of ‘due to a lack of evidence, we do not feel it is proportionate to allocate resources to investigate this matter further’.
It’s crazy what people can get away with especially with such blatant evidence.
Lads gonna eventually meet someone who knows how to fight and he’s gonna have a bad day
But if he was caught with cannabis, they would want him in jail for a class A drug.
Nearly killing a man? No jail.
Isn’t it weird that the biggest dickheads have their mobile numbers and names on the side of their vehicles. Makes them really easy to target and harass.
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What! How can the justice system have reached this outcome? Its 2 minutes later, premeditated, extremely dangerous driving, then severe assault.
Can anyone with legal experience explain this to a layman?
Jesus Christ. You can apparently run someone down, ram them off the road, assault them and leave them unconscious – with a history of violent crime – and face absolutely no fucking punishment.
Interesting that their van’s MOT has expired. https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/results?registration=CN67FCZ
https://i.imgur.com/TwrXZXE.jpg
The next time he can just run someone over and drive off and no one will be the wiser. Lesson learned! /s
What a pithy sentence and meagre compensation that doesn’t come close to touching the damage caused. What a disgrace of a country we live in that judges care more about the lives of criminals than their victims.
Tracked him down through his employer – however doesn’t mention if he lost his job or not, surely he would have done??
If you want to kill someone and get away with it, hit them with your car.
I just got back from a long weekend in Amsterdam. It was weird being in a country where cyclists seem to essentially have right of way over everyone, which isn’t a problem because they have the infrastructure to support it.
Helps that everything is flat I suppose. Still, it was enough to make me wonder how many of the “we don’t have space” excuses for poor cycling infrastructure are actually valid. They’re practically living on top of each other over there and seem to have managed.
Take his license away, now.
Then put him in prison for a few months.
Reading the responses to the bbc news article on twitter is so depressing. A lot of people saying the cyclist deserved it and using it as a platform to complain about cycling in general. Don’t these people realise these folks have families they want to get home to just like everyone else.
Who was the judge, Jeremy Clarkson? Terrible ruling.
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But most of all: he didn’t lose his license? This guy is clearly not to be trusted with heavy machinery. Next time, he will ram a cyclist with the van.
Im so on the edge when I cycle in London. Feels like every driver is just a micro aggression away from punching people out.
Thankfully the guy had a camera otherwise he would have got away with it completely
Needs to lose his license, people with such temperament shouldn’t be allowed near a vehicle
This is the logical and expected endpoint of the media churning out and normalising anti-cyclist sentiment. I could click on almost any article about cyclists and find comments with hundreds of likes fantasising about running them off the road and kicking their heads in for the crime of travelling on two wheels, and the moderators just allow them.
Can we start calling it stochastic terrorism yet?
Surely a driving ban would be merited at the very least. He’s clearly not someone who should be behind a wheel.
Bristol Property Maintenence eh. How about a campaign to boycott this guys business?
There are a massive amount of sheer dickheads like this guy in this country. I went to school with loads of people like him.
Lots of people want to leave negative reviews for this company which I can understand however if you search up the company name it’ll GIVE YOU THE WRONG COMPANY. Search up the phone number which you can see on the video to get the proper company.
Edit: I was talking about Google reviews and not Yell. The correct company is receiving the negative reviews on Yell.
>”Any kind of infraction of the highway code from cyclists is met with rage from people who may do plenty of things outside the highway code as well, but because it’s a cyclist they see that differently.”
This is absolutely spot on. Who among we car drivers can honestly claim to have adhered 100% perfectly to the Highway Code through our years of driving? Yet a cyclist rides too far from the kerb and they receive all manner of abuse. Until a year ago I cycled to work every day, and saw far too much fuckery to keep track of. As a result, I try to give cyclists as wide a berth as possible.
Two onto one and using a van for initial attack , both should get 5 years