Dublin has such a shit skyline, why are Dubs so protective of it?
> A new ruling from the organisation said the proposed 24-storey structure at the site of the former City Arts Centre would compromise surrounding buildings, including the Custom House.
The Customs House is a beautiful building, but it’s been compromised for over 130 years with the Loopline Bridge blocking the view of it looking downriver. The majority of the other buildings in the immediate vicinity are from the 90s onwards so not really historically or even visually important.
Desperately disappointing, if this can’t be built then I can’t see anything of this scale ever being built in the city centre. Meanwhile a 22-storey tower is approved in Carrickmines of all places. I don’t pretend to understand planning, but I sometimes wonder if we had no planning would we actually be any worse off.
This is close to a proposed metro station, the very place where I imagine you want office workers to be travelling to and from. This skyline obsession – it’s a city, not the grand canyon.
They will never let the country develop,! whether its renewable energy projects, housing, commercial developments it’s all the same. If the demi gods that is the multinationals can’t get planning approvals then nobody else will. The amount of economic development that is been held back by nimbism and civil servants is incredible, and all this while we are walking into a recession.
While these objections usually are ridiculous, I do think this one is sort of fair. NIMBYs define anything greater than two stories (unless it’s a church) as a skyscraper, but this actually is and is right in the middle of the city around other buildings which are medium-rise and will be maintained. Most European cities generally build them outside the direct city core like Canary Wharf in London or La Défense in Paris.
If they actually stopped rejecting all of these high rise submissions, Dublin might actually have a decent skyline.
I don’t see why the government don’t get involved and tell them stop rejecting proposals for strictly aesthetic purposes.
The sky needs to call its personal injury lawyer, the Man in the Moon.
what skyline?
What fucking skyline? Have you seen the skyline from the storehouse. It’s genuinely depressing compared to any other European city’s
Ridiculous
Who exactly are these people who make these decision?
Id love to ask them what skyline they are on about.
How is it that the poolbeg chimmneys got planning permission and they dominate the whole of Dublin.
What credibilty do these morons have if two power station chimmneys from decades ago are the defacto skyline of dublin.
Like I mean, for f**k sake, there are absolutely no significant residential units in the area that would be adversely affected. Building upwards would significantly reduce the amount of land that would be needed if all the offices were built in smaller 3 or 4 story tall buildings. Land that could be used for housing or something else.
It would directly create hundreds of construction jobs as well as hundreds more support roles.
For the most part, every other major city in the world as high-rise buildings and this one wouldn’t even be that tall. The planning laws in this country need urgent attention and have to be amended so that a small number of serial professional objectors cannot hold up progress.
Historic skyline? Wtf are they on about? Why are we so hell bent on not having tall buildings. What fucking money or benefit does the skyline bring in?
God forbid you build a tall building that would pave the way for other tall buildings.
Not like there’s a shortage of apartments in the country.
We really are fucked here. A whole political and civil servant class are completely mismanaging the country, stifling and preventing any progress.
No one gives a fuck about the Dublin skyline. Looks shite now. Just build up to fuck!
Why don’t we just find this fuckin skyline, kill it, and be done with this whole thing.
These planning objections are getting fucking ridiculous. BUILD UP ITS A SIMPLE SOLUTION FFS
We need residential buildings, not (post-WFH-)obsolete offices hogging construction resources.
Have they seen the spire?
What is the objective criteria for injury of a skyline? Even as an Australian, the severity of NIMBY in this country looks like a deliberate parody.
When are we going to have reform of our planning laws? Modern times call for modern solutions. We’re going to be left in the dust if we keep this up.
That’s a depressing read.
Dublin’s historic beautiful domed buildings, rising ancient towers and impressive unique city vistas that exist. Such wonderful masterpieces as … Liberty Hall , the magical custom house seen from space apparently and the hundreds of cranes, and masts. Dublin a UNESCO world heritage site of how not to plan a city.
To be fair the top of that building looks very sharp, couldn’t have it poking/ stabbing the sky. Could indeed cause injury
What skyline?
Guess we can’t change anything or try anything new as usual.
That area of the docklands would be the perfect place to be zoned for high rise. If we don’t increase the critical mass of the city centre we’ll never have a reason to fix public transport and we’ll never keep up with other European capitals.
How exactly can you injure something that doesn’t exist?
Who gives a fuck the place looks like ass anyway.
For fucks sake
Factory farming is fine but we care about skylines’ feelings?
Lived in a 24 storey apartment block in downtown Vancouver which was one of the smallest buildings in that area, had a communal rooftop garden and gym amongst other fairly accepted standard features. Said building did not “injure skyline”
Ah yes, the beautiful Dublin skyline. The jewel of the capital that tourists come for miles and travel for countless hours to feast their eyes upon. Have they ever seen a more beautiful collection of squat grey buildings in their lives? Nay!
Injure skyline. Pff. What bollocks.
Are these elected positions?
How can I get involved to make sure these idiots can’t continue to stunt Dublin’s growth, outside of writing TDs or change.org petitions that is.
We can’t build a tall building because nonces may potentially spy into a playground from the penthouse or 20-somethings may start to take up more tables in the local cafes or a 200-year-old building may have to deal with a longer shadow twice a year, when the sun shines.
There needs to be grassroots action to vote out every councillor who refuses high-rises for bullshit reasons.
If only there was another city to build things in ah well maybe in the future
Fucking backward idiots in this country. Injure what skyline ? They need to build a great skyline for the future .
Why this backward resistance to high-rises? Is it a hangover from the old council blocks?
Any modern city worth it’s salt has tall buildings. I had a 23rd story apartment when I lived in upstate NY. It was great – loved it. For a country with a housing crisis it seems crazy that all the local governments want to do is stop any innovative building work.
Cab we just start using planning objections to compile a list of people to send out to sea, if they don’t want to see any progress they can go live in the middle of the atlantic and never have to see another building ever again
What do they mean when they say “Skyline” they have no fucking idea what a skyline is if they think we already have one to destroy.
I’d rather look at that in the skyline than look at the dirty smackhead and rubbish riddles streets in Dublin
Dublin is a shithole and no amount of tall buildings is going to change that.
Plenty of places in town that need gutting and could go up to 7/8 stories
The NIMBYs claimed another victim.
You have to be fucking kidding me.
This is such a joke.
Why does Dublin hate tall buildings and high urban density so much.
We rather have a empty site over a tall building.
The most ridiculous thing about this is Dublins two tallest approved buildings, both over 80 metres, are going up a stones throw from here. College Square is absolutely flying up too. Tara St. likely won’t get built as it’s missed this boom cycle. But it’s stupid to say this one is an issue because it will damage the skyline in the context of the two high rises approved to go up beside it.
EDIT: Would have to go and check but to be fair I’m pretty sure the two approved would have been recommended refusals by DCC too but ABP came to the rescue and said build away. So maybe some hope left? Although ABP is in the mud at the moment so every decision for a taller building by them will be massively hounded on.
Didn’t know skyline is owned by certain individuals
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Dublin has such a shit skyline, why are Dubs so protective of it?
> A new ruling from the organisation said the proposed 24-storey structure at the site of the former City Arts Centre would compromise surrounding buildings, including the Custom House.
The Customs House is a beautiful building, but it’s been compromised for over 130 years with the Loopline Bridge blocking the view of it looking downriver. The majority of the other buildings in the immediate vicinity are from the 90s onwards so not really historically or even visually important.
Desperately disappointing, if this can’t be built then I can’t see anything of this scale ever being built in the city centre. Meanwhile a 22-storey tower is approved in Carrickmines of all places. I don’t pretend to understand planning, but I sometimes wonder if we had no planning would we actually be any worse off.
This is close to a proposed metro station, the very place where I imagine you want office workers to be travelling to and from. This skyline obsession – it’s a city, not the grand canyon.
They will never let the country develop,! whether its renewable energy projects, housing, commercial developments it’s all the same. If the demi gods that is the multinationals can’t get planning approvals then nobody else will. The amount of economic development that is been held back by nimbism and civil servants is incredible, and all this while we are walking into a recession.
While these objections usually are ridiculous, I do think this one is sort of fair. NIMBYs define anything greater than two stories (unless it’s a church) as a skyscraper, but this actually is and is right in the middle of the city around other buildings which are medium-rise and will be maintained. Most European cities generally build them outside the direct city core like Canary Wharf in London or La Défense in Paris.
Edit: Something like [this](https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/former-city-arts-centre-hits-the-market-at-35m-1.4541371) would be more appropriate.
If they actually stopped rejecting all of these high rise submissions, Dublin might actually have a decent skyline.
I don’t see why the government don’t get involved and tell them stop rejecting proposals for strictly aesthetic purposes.
The sky needs to call its personal injury lawyer, the Man in the Moon.
what skyline?
What fucking skyline? Have you seen the skyline from the storehouse. It’s genuinely depressing compared to any other European city’s
Ridiculous
Who exactly are these people who make these decision?
Id love to ask them what skyline they are on about.
How is it that the poolbeg chimmneys got planning permission and they dominate the whole of Dublin.
What credibilty do these morons have if two power station chimmneys from decades ago are the defacto skyline of dublin.
Like I mean, for f**k sake, there are absolutely no significant residential units in the area that would be adversely affected. Building upwards would significantly reduce the amount of land that would be needed if all the offices were built in smaller 3 or 4 story tall buildings. Land that could be used for housing or something else.
It would directly create hundreds of construction jobs as well as hundreds more support roles.
For the most part, every other major city in the world as high-rise buildings and this one wouldn’t even be that tall. The planning laws in this country need urgent attention and have to be amended so that a small number of serial professional objectors cannot hold up progress.
Historic skyline? Wtf are they on about? Why are we so hell bent on not having tall buildings. What fucking money or benefit does the skyline bring in?
God forbid you build a tall building that would pave the way for other tall buildings.
Not like there’s a shortage of apartments in the country.
We really are fucked here. A whole political and civil servant class are completely mismanaging the country, stifling and preventing any progress.
No one gives a fuck about the Dublin skyline. Looks shite now. Just build up to fuck!
Why don’t we just find this fuckin skyline, kill it, and be done with this whole thing.
These planning objections are getting fucking ridiculous. BUILD UP ITS A SIMPLE SOLUTION FFS
We need residential buildings, not (post-WFH-)obsolete offices hogging construction resources.
Have they seen the spire?
What is the objective criteria for injury of a skyline? Even as an Australian, the severity of NIMBY in this country looks like a deliberate parody.
When are we going to have reform of our planning laws? Modern times call for modern solutions. We’re going to be left in the dust if we keep this up.
That’s a depressing read.
Dublin’s historic beautiful domed buildings, rising ancient towers and impressive unique city vistas that exist. Such wonderful masterpieces as … Liberty Hall , the magical custom house seen from space apparently and the hundreds of cranes, and masts. Dublin a UNESCO world heritage site of how not to plan a city.
To be fair the top of that building looks very sharp, couldn’t have it poking/ stabbing the sky. Could indeed cause injury
What skyline?
Guess we can’t change anything or try anything new as usual.
That area of the docklands would be the perfect place to be zoned for high rise. If we don’t increase the critical mass of the city centre we’ll never have a reason to fix public transport and we’ll never keep up with other European capitals.
How exactly can you injure something that doesn’t exist?
Who gives a fuck the place looks like ass anyway.
For fucks sake
Factory farming is fine but we care about skylines’ feelings?
Lived in a 24 storey apartment block in downtown Vancouver which was one of the smallest buildings in that area, had a communal rooftop garden and gym amongst other fairly accepted standard features. Said building did not “injure skyline”
Ah yes, the beautiful Dublin skyline. The jewel of the capital that tourists come for miles and travel for countless hours to feast their eyes upon. Have they ever seen a more beautiful collection of squat grey buildings in their lives? Nay!
Injure skyline. Pff. What bollocks.
Are these elected positions?
How can I get involved to make sure these idiots can’t continue to stunt Dublin’s growth, outside of writing TDs or change.org petitions that is.
We can’t build a tall building because nonces may potentially spy into a playground from the penthouse or 20-somethings may start to take up more tables in the local cafes or a 200-year-old building may have to deal with a longer shadow twice a year, when the sun shines.
There needs to be grassroots action to vote out every councillor who refuses high-rises for bullshit reasons.
If only there was another city to build things in ah well maybe in the future
Fucking backward idiots in this country. Injure what skyline ? They need to build a great skyline for the future .
Why this backward resistance to high-rises? Is it a hangover from the old council blocks?
Any modern city worth it’s salt has tall buildings. I had a 23rd story apartment when I lived in upstate NY. It was great – loved it. For a country with a housing crisis it seems crazy that all the local governments want to do is stop any innovative building work.
Cab we just start using planning objections to compile a list of people to send out to sea, if they don’t want to see any progress they can go live in the middle of the atlantic and never have to see another building ever again
What do they mean when they say “Skyline” they have no fucking idea what a skyline is if they think we already have one to destroy.
I’d rather look at that in the skyline than look at the dirty smackhead and rubbish riddles streets in Dublin
Dublin is a shithole and no amount of tall buildings is going to change that.
Plenty of places in town that need gutting and could go up to 7/8 stories
The NIMBYs claimed another victim.
You have to be fucking kidding me.
This is such a joke.
Why does Dublin hate tall buildings and high urban density so much.
We rather have a empty site over a tall building.
The most ridiculous thing about this is Dublins two tallest approved buildings, both over 80 metres, are going up a stones throw from here. College Square is absolutely flying up too. Tara St. likely won’t get built as it’s missed this boom cycle. But it’s stupid to say this one is an issue because it will damage the skyline in the context of the two high rises approved to go up beside it.
EDIT: Would have to go and check but to be fair I’m pretty sure the two approved would have been recommended refusals by DCC too but ABP came to the rescue and said build away. So maybe some hope left? Although ABP is in the mud at the moment so every decision for a taller building by them will be massively hounded on.
Didn’t know skyline is owned by certain individuals