Of course. Under 18’s are untouchable by the justice system – and they know they are, so there’s nothing stopping them from going around committing horrendous crimes.
They beat the crap out of someone, get a pathetic sentence like this where they just have to do some bullshit “awareness course” and community service, then they’re back terrorising the public because they know that nothing can be done to stop them.
The police are too busy being forced to work without pay as they protect Tory MP’s touring around the UK to do anything else. It’s a full time (Unpaid) job keeping 80% of the country from tearing them apart in’t middle of street.
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no lessons learned, they’ll be back on the street and do the exact same thing again
“He has now submitted a complaint to the Met Police over its handling of the case, fearing the court hearing was rushed through.”
Seriously? His gripes with the outcome have literally nothing to do with the Met, they did their bit and they did it well enough to get the offenders convicted.
>The defendants were sentenced for robbing Nathan and his friend of items worth about £3,300 including phones, a watch and a jacket.
No evidence at all that the attack was homophobic, just looks like a simple robbery to me
No point in running to the Police for anything. You have to learn to fight back, or know when to retreat. I reported a homophobic case against myself when I was 16, I’ll spare you the details, but inn short the Police came back and told me that unless I came out the closet there and then in front of my parents then it wouldn’t be classed as homophobia, or harassment in my workplace, and given their accusations the charges would be reversed onto me.
I am guessing that if they started on me first and I punched one of them straight in the face, I’d be the one more in trouble right?
Avoiding jail for commuting a crime, seems like the norm !
They will do it again, next time it will be worse.
When will we start handing out real justice instead of being so afraid of “the culture” that we let an assault like this basically slide.
I can guarantee you, were it instead some MPs gay son battered the offenders would get the full sentence possible. Joke.
My earlier comment has been scrubbed and all evidence of it removed from my notifications, like an enemy of Stalin. Fuck reddit.
Jaysus. Is that a shoeprint on his right temple? That’s attempted murder.
what can you expect in the uk. the courts and justice are a fucking joke in this place.
If the young person is immune their parents should be held accountable. We cannot just create a segment of society that can do anything they like. This used to be part of growing up.
Everything comes to those who wait and remember God always repays his debts
I don’t know what the research says, but I guess the courts believe curfews, making it clear they’ll go to prison if they commit more crimes and doing the victim awareness education etc offers enough prevention, short and long-term. Throwing teens in prison will mean them missing out on secondary school education, which I imagine isn’t good for preventing future crime.
I know people who beat random people up as teens and never went to prison or even got caught and they went on to have normal careers by their early 20s. Although trying to throw the guy in a river really sounds like attempted manslaughter territory depending on the river, although being 15 year olds they could easily not think it’s actually that dangerous (even many adults don’t realise how easy it is to drown in a river).
Absolutely, utterly disgusting. I’d love to introduce a law whereby those in the legal profession (such as prosecutors and judges) can have complaints made against them for “bringing the law into disrepute”.
Basically, it should be considered that victims of crime are clients (after all, we all DO pay for the courts) of the legal profession and have a right to expect a job of work to be done on their behalf. If necessary, underperforming lawyers should therefore be charged with negligence in front of a panel made up of legal-and lay-people, and be forced to pay compensation if their work is found wanting. They could also be sent for compulsory retraining
, or even dismissed.
These are *senior professionals*: they really should know better. A *lot* better. When the legal professionals behave in this way, arguably, they damage society in the same way that the offenders do.
Really do wish people were allowed a better means of defence for themselves. Can’t even carry something like pepper spray for Pete sakes.
It’s things like this that are why I find powerful people whinging about “wokeness” or “cancel culture” so infuriating. People like that are worried they’ll get cancelled for making bigoted comments, while minorities are worried they’ll get killed by bigoted people. Somehow the politicians and privileged celebrities are still casting “wokeness” as the greater evil there. So entitled.
Why are they surprised? We imported AND home grew absolute vermin shit stains of society who then decided to us both their pole and hole to make even more vermin shit stains and now we have a bunch of these wannabe gangland pseudo tiny people running around on bikes, e-scooters doing what they want whilst their vermin trash parents are busy snorting cocaine. Then one of them gets shot by the police and its “oh no, not my poor boy saint”. Until we get tough on crime, put out youtbe clubs and have members on society actually step up to be the father and mothers these trash never had, this will continue.
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>teens
Of course. Under 18’s are untouchable by the justice system – and they know they are, so there’s nothing stopping them from going around committing horrendous crimes.
They beat the crap out of someone, get a pathetic sentence like this where they just have to do some bullshit “awareness course” and community service, then they’re back terrorising the public because they know that nothing can be done to stop them.
The police are too busy being forced to work without pay as they protect Tory MP’s touring around the UK to do anything else. It’s a full time (Unpaid) job keeping 80% of the country from tearing them apart in’t middle of street.
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no lessons learned, they’ll be back on the street and do the exact same thing again
“He has now submitted a complaint to the Met Police over its handling of the case, fearing the court hearing was rushed through.”
Seriously? His gripes with the outcome have literally nothing to do with the Met, they did their bit and they did it well enough to get the offenders convicted.
>The defendants were sentenced for robbing Nathan and his friend of items worth about £3,300 including phones, a watch and a jacket.
No evidence at all that the attack was homophobic, just looks like a simple robbery to me
No point in running to the Police for anything. You have to learn to fight back, or know when to retreat. I reported a homophobic case against myself when I was 16, I’ll spare you the details, but inn short the Police came back and told me that unless I came out the closet there and then in front of my parents then it wouldn’t be classed as homophobia, or harassment in my workplace, and given their accusations the charges would be reversed onto me.
I am guessing that if they started on me first and I punched one of them straight in the face, I’d be the one more in trouble right?
Avoiding jail for commuting a crime, seems like the norm !
They will do it again, next time it will be worse.
When will we start handing out real justice instead of being so afraid of “the culture” that we let an assault like this basically slide.
I can guarantee you, were it instead some MPs gay son battered the offenders would get the full sentence possible. Joke.
My earlier comment has been scrubbed and all evidence of it removed from my notifications, like an enemy of Stalin. Fuck reddit.
I’ll never forget the 2009 homophobic killing of [Ian Baynham](https://lgbthistoryuk.org/wiki/Ian_Baynham) in Trafalgar square. Taunted, insulted, stamped on and beaten to death by 2 attackers who only got [7 years in jail](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-12283937). And last I heard, one of them was to serve only [2.5 years](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:E1LynpPiXycJ:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350793/Ruby-Thomas-stamped-gay-man-death-serve-just-2-5-years.html&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b-d).
Jaysus. Is that a shoeprint on his right temple? That’s attempted murder.
what can you expect in the uk. the courts and justice are a fucking joke in this place.
If the young person is immune their parents should be held accountable. We cannot just create a segment of society that can do anything they like. This used to be part of growing up.
Everything comes to those who wait and remember God always repays his debts
I don’t know what the research says, but I guess the courts believe curfews, making it clear they’ll go to prison if they commit more crimes and doing the victim awareness education etc offers enough prevention, short and long-term. Throwing teens in prison will mean them missing out on secondary school education, which I imagine isn’t good for preventing future crime.
I know people who beat random people up as teens and never went to prison or even got caught and they went on to have normal careers by their early 20s. Although trying to throw the guy in a river really sounds like attempted manslaughter territory depending on the river, although being 15 year olds they could easily not think it’s actually that dangerous (even many adults don’t realise how easy it is to drown in a river).
Absolutely, utterly disgusting. I’d love to introduce a law whereby those in the legal profession (such as prosecutors and judges) can have complaints made against them for “bringing the law into disrepute”.
Basically, it should be considered that victims of crime are clients (after all, we all DO pay for the courts) of the legal profession and have a right to expect a job of work to be done on their behalf. If necessary, underperforming lawyers should therefore be charged with negligence in front of a panel made up of legal-and lay-people, and be forced to pay compensation if their work is found wanting. They could also be sent for compulsory retraining
, or even dismissed.
These are *senior professionals*: they really should know better. A *lot* better. When the legal professionals behave in this way, arguably, they damage society in the same way that the offenders do.
Really do wish people were allowed a better means of defence for themselves. Can’t even carry something like pepper spray for Pete sakes.
It’s things like this that are why I find powerful people whinging about “wokeness” or “cancel culture” so infuriating. People like that are worried they’ll get cancelled for making bigoted comments, while minorities are worried they’ll get killed by bigoted people. Somehow the politicians and privileged celebrities are still casting “wokeness” as the greater evil there. So entitled.
Why are they surprised? We imported AND home grew absolute vermin shit stains of society who then decided to us both their pole and hole to make even more vermin shit stains and now we have a bunch of these wannabe gangland pseudo tiny people running around on bikes, e-scooters doing what they want whilst their vermin trash parents are busy snorting cocaine. Then one of them gets shot by the police and its “oh no, not my poor boy saint”. Until we get tough on crime, put out youtbe clubs and have members on society actually step up to be the father and mothers these trash never had, this will continue.