I found this both hilarious and maddening in equal measure:
>Keane outlined responses it takes when cases of conflict are reported. Dublin Bus might make a driver take refresher training, she said.
>Their driver training includes classroom and on-bus training about driving around vulnerable road users, she said.
>Drivers also learn a cyclist’s point of view through a virtual reality headset, she says. “Which simulates the cycling experience.”
>Collins, from iBike Dublin, says a bus driver might not grasp the reality of a cyclist’s situation through virtual reality. “I think it’d be more seen as gimmicky.”
>Ray Coyne, former CEO of Dublin Bus said in a 2020 tweet, in response to a suggestion that drivers go out on bikes to experience a bus rushing past them in real life, that the activity wouldn’t pass a safety audit.
I was at one time a regular bike user around Dublin, my daily commute was a 44km round trip and I gave up reporting incidents to DB, so I would take this number with a huge pinch of salt.
Bus drivers are actually not that bad – they are incentivised to use their mirrors and they’re always on the case – just don’t play games with large objects in general. Taxi drivers DGAF but you’re alert for them. The most challenging road user is the small car driver because they take up so much space on the road, thinking they don’t.
I cycle a route which is almost all dedicated cycle lanes but Buses do have to pull I to them for stops.
I’ve found the bus drivers are always very good. If I’m close enough, they’ll almost always wait and let me pass first. Ive never had one ‘force’ me into the path or anything like that.
Only? 68 too many
This goes both ways and has no quick solution without infrastructural changes on the roads.
Going around Dublin I’ve seem buses cut off bikes as well as a shocking amount of cyclists who act as if the bus isn’t there and shoot inside or out around them through blind spots as if they are invincible.
I used to cycle into town every day, I have had very minimal issues with them.. Is it pure luck?
“Has recorded” that’s awfully specific language right there
I think a new definition of ‘conflict’ has been adopted by Dublin Bus and it’s not one we’d recognise…
In all fairness, while I have the odd day where I’m cut off by a bus driver, theyre not the most dangerous road users to cyclists and drive fairly predictably and consistently.
Private car owners are by far the most dangerous. Making left turns without indicating or not checking their mirrors for cyclists is really common. I also hate when a car is behind me on a quiet road and theres no traffic, some people lose all patience immediately and try to overtake when theres not enough space or even worse, use their horn.
Other cyclists and pedestrians can be pretty dangerous too, cyclists running red lights and pedestrians running across the road not looking both ways before. Food delivery lads are always distracted on their phones too.
Lastly, people on scooters seem to make the rules of the road up as they go lol. On and off pavements all the time.
Don’t bring a bike to a bus fight
Town is of full of wankers who think, due to their Tour De France role-play, they shouldn’t have to obey the rules of the road. The number of times, especially around Gay Spar, you’d see lads just flying through red lights and even green pedestrian lights, no wonder they end up getting clipped by buses, it’s their own fault.
Is giving the driver the finger included in these numbers?
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I found this both hilarious and maddening in equal measure:
>Keane outlined responses it takes when cases of conflict are reported. Dublin Bus might make a driver take refresher training, she said.
>Their driver training includes classroom and on-bus training about driving around vulnerable road users, she said.
>Drivers also learn a cyclist’s point of view through a virtual reality headset, she says. “Which simulates the cycling experience.”
>Collins, from iBike Dublin, says a bus driver might not grasp the reality of a cyclist’s situation through virtual reality. “I think it’d be more seen as gimmicky.”
>Ray Coyne, former CEO of Dublin Bus said in a 2020 tweet, in response to a suggestion that drivers go out on bikes to experience a bus rushing past them in real life, that the activity wouldn’t pass a safety audit.
I was at one time a regular bike user around Dublin, my daily commute was a 44km round trip and I gave up reporting incidents to DB, so I would take this number with a huge pinch of salt.
Bus drivers are actually not that bad – they are incentivised to use their mirrors and they’re always on the case – just don’t play games with large objects in general. Taxi drivers DGAF but you’re alert for them. The most challenging road user is the small car driver because they take up so much space on the road, thinking they don’t.
I cycle a route which is almost all dedicated cycle lanes but Buses do have to pull I to them for stops.
I’ve found the bus drivers are always very good. If I’m close enough, they’ll almost always wait and let me pass first. Ive never had one ‘force’ me into the path or anything like that.
Only? 68 too many
This goes both ways and has no quick solution without infrastructural changes on the roads.
Going around Dublin I’ve seem buses cut off bikes as well as a shocking amount of cyclists who act as if the bus isn’t there and shoot inside or out around them through blind spots as if they are invincible.
I used to cycle into town every day, I have had very minimal issues with them.. Is it pure luck?
“Has recorded” that’s awfully specific language right there
I think a new definition of ‘conflict’ has been adopted by Dublin Bus and it’s not one we’d recognise…
In all fairness, while I have the odd day where I’m cut off by a bus driver, theyre not the most dangerous road users to cyclists and drive fairly predictably and consistently.
Private car owners are by far the most dangerous. Making left turns without indicating or not checking their mirrors for cyclists is really common. I also hate when a car is behind me on a quiet road and theres no traffic, some people lose all patience immediately and try to overtake when theres not enough space or even worse, use their horn.
Other cyclists and pedestrians can be pretty dangerous too, cyclists running red lights and pedestrians running across the road not looking both ways before. Food delivery lads are always distracted on their phones too.
Lastly, people on scooters seem to make the rules of the road up as they go lol. On and off pavements all the time.
Don’t bring a bike to a bus fight
Town is of full of wankers who think, due to their Tour De France role-play, they shouldn’t have to obey the rules of the road. The number of times, especially around Gay Spar, you’d see lads just flying through red lights and even green pedestrian lights, no wonder they end up getting clipped by buses, it’s their own fault.
Is giving the driver the finger included in these numbers?