>Call it revenge of the Remainer Establishment, if you like. The revolution in the British economy promised by Leave campaigners six years ago finally seemed to go the way of all revolutionary movements this week: it ended up eating itself.
>
>Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as “Project Fear”, have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.
>
>A serious house price correction, substantially higher interest rates and a permanently impaired exchange rate may be the least of it.
>
>Credibility is all in politics, finance and economics; this week was the point at which the UK Government finally managed to lose all last remaining vestiges of it. Britain’s trusted institutional framework, together with its hard won reputation for sound money and certainty in policy, all went down the pan.
>
>Perhaps I exaggerate, but not since the humiliation of the International Monetary Fund bailout in 1976 have we seen an unravelling quite as spectacular. This too from a Tory Government with a substantial overall majority. It is scarcely believable.
>
>These are dark days for Tory MPs, who will be acutely aware that loss of reputation for economic competence is electoral poison for their party. As the former Chancellor, Philip Hammond, has already observed, that reputation has been comprehensively trashed by what’s just occurred.
>
>I feel sorry for Kwasi Kwarteng. He now bears the dubious distinction of being Britain’s second shortest serving Chancellor ever after Ian Macleod, who died in office almost immediately after being appointed.
>
>Others have been chasing the silver medal hard in the turmoil of the last several years; Sajid Javid lasted just six months, and Nadhim Zahawi only eight weeks. Anyone would think we had become Italy or Greece, such is the turnover in key government positions and the growing sense of political, economic and fiscal instability.
>
>Nor is the storm by any means yet over. Stripped of all authority and credibility, it is hard to see how Liz Truss, the Prime Minister, can survive the traumas of the past several weeks. As Norman Lamont said of John Major, she’s in office but not in power.
>
>The U-turn on corporation tax, the scapegoating of Kwarteng, and his replacement with the supposedly steadying hand of Jeremy Hunt is unlikely to save her. The cut in spending plans that she implied on Friday may be what the markets demand, but politically it threatens finally to destroy her.
>
>Kwarteng was a likeable Chancellor with many of the right intentions. He is not wrong about the need for radical action to correct multiple long term weaknesses and deficiencies in the UK economy. Many of the supply side measures announced in the mini-Budget were more than welcome, and might in time have made a significant difference to the UK’s long term growth trajectory.
>
>Yet the unfunded tax cuts were always going to be a bridge too far. Fiscal policy 101: you do not attempt to do a permanent fiscal giveaway against the backdrop of sharply rising inflation and interest rates, a punishing energy crisis, a current account deficit swollen to an unprecedented 8 percent of GDP, and a seemingly intractable black hole at the heart of the public finances.
>
>To have rejected independent assessment of the plans by the Office for Budget Responsibility only further added to the sense of alarm in financial markets.
>
>When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
>
>The idea that the £18bn a year of corporation tax revenues that seemed to be at the centre of this week’s rout would make the difference between national solvency and insolvency is almost beyond ridiculous. It would not have done. Yet sadly it became totemic in a wider loss of political and economic credibility, which has been cumulative now over a number of years.
>
>It is perhaps not so surprising that the passionate Remainer who became a passionate Brexiteer should choose to throw her Chancellor to the wolves in order to save her own skin.
>
>Yet the fact is that Truss was in lockstep with Kwarteng in challenging “economic orthodoxy” and the institutions that were its standard bearers. On the campaign trail she was, if anything, even more of a zealot for economic radicalism than Kwarteng.
>
>In any case, she plainly didn’t understand the sometimes destructive way markets interact with policy. It’s been a rude awakening.
>
>In the end, it was Andrew Bailey, Governor of the Bank of England, who brought matters to a head, by insisting that there would be no extension to the bond buying programme he had initiated to counter forced selling by UK pension funds.
>
>This has been widely portrayed as another foot in mouth episode by a Governor with something of a reputation for gaffes. Having failed, despite all the warning signs, to see the surge in inflation coming, the Bank fully deserves whatever criticism is thrown at it. The Bank has failed to conduct itself well in recent times.
>
>Even so, the Governor had little option but to say what he did. It makes no sense at all for a central bank, which is supposed to be tightening policy to fight inflation, to be simultaneously loosening it through resumed asset purchases.
>
>To do so would be seen by “Mr Market” as monetary financing, or what is sometimes referred to as “fiscal dominance”, where monetary policy is used to support the government’s fiscal needs.
>
>By making the programme time-limited, the Bank was able just about to pass its intervention off as justified on financial stability grounds. It would have been game over had Bailey made the programme open ended.
>
>Already, acute loss of credibility in monetary policy would have spiralled out of control, and the rout in bond markets would have gotten even worse.
>
>Once the Bank had made clear that it would be ending the programme as scheduled, the Government had no option but to reverse its fiscal plans. It would have been mayhem in the markets on Monday had it not done so.
>
>”Economic orthodoxy” is back in the saddle. But then it never really went away. Instead we had a brief aberration in which the Government, having dispensed with all sensible advice, thought bizarrely that it could defy gravity.
>
>If it had been done differently it might have succeeded, but it was not. We’ll be paying the consequences in reduced standing and prosperity for years, if not decades, to come.
Project Fear was what Project Reality was called by the Leavers.
wowowow. I actually clicked the link to make sure that this wasn’t some hoax, but it was the Telegraph, and it did admit to Project Fear being right. Damn.
“i’m usually not the one to say atodaso, but you know what? Atodaso, a fuckin atodaso”
My favourite comment on this story: “we haven’t even left! We are half in and half out!”. These people are morons.
Edit: New favourite comment alert!
“The British Establishment for the last six years has been determined to stop Brexit. It has finally succeeded”
Holy shit!
Bloody weird to call all the problems cause by brexit “Revenge of the Establishment Remainers” in an article where the author admits remainers were right all along and didn’t cause any of the issues themselves.
Great, so they admit it was a bad idea after spending twenty years starting the bin fire and five years stoking it
When’s the tele going to acknowledge their role in this?
Traitorous leavers tanked this great country for their little bigoted revolution.
Trickle down my daily hate balls and off your telegraph chin
There must be an inquiry into the lies the public were told by the leave campaigners.
Make all cuntservatives and brexiteers and their children third class citizens. Only way Britain can undo their damage.
The fact they still call it that shows they don’t really believe it
>revenge of the Remainer Establishment
Really? Who is that? And what have they done exactly? The article mentions nothing about it, and just goes on to try and rescue the reputation of the current Tory government.
​
>Tory MPs, who will be acutely aware that loss of reputation for economic competence is electoral poison for their party.
If they have ever had such a reputation it is only down to the dishonesty of institutions like the Telegraph. They have caused an economic crisis due to mishandling of the economy every time they’ve been in power.
​
>Kwarteng was a likeable Chancellor with many of the right intentions.
No he wasn’t likeable, and there is apparently no evidence he had the right intentions?
​
>He is not wrong about the need for radical action to correct multiple long term weaknesses and deficiencies in the UK economy
Technically correct, the UK does have those problems. But anyone who says he intends to fix them is being completely dishonest.
​
>Many of the supply side measures announced in the mini-Budget were more than welcome
By whom? Not the public
​
>and might in time have made a significant difference to the UK’s long term growth trajectory
As in, would have significantly harmed them. Lucky the markets flipped out because it seems to have reduced the long term damage he would have done.
Me, before the referendum: “Brexit will be an economic disaster, food and utility prices will rise, we will lose lots of skilled and unskilled labour particularly in public services, the UK will be a second-rate nation with significantly reduced political influence, and we will be putting younger generations at a huge disadvantage”
My in-laws: “Hold my blue passport”
Can we just move away from the ‘ remainers’ tag ? Much better to refer to the disenfranchised as ‘ re-joiners’
>When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
This is the thing which most confuses me about our economic system. Why do we give such power to nervous idiots who react to any event as though it is the end of the world?
“Revenge of the remainer establishment”? What divisive bullshit. Nobody wants revenge. We didn’t even want a divide in the first place. Crazy people did this to themselves by refusing to do their research or take facts into account while trusting obvious liars and cheats.
This highlights one of the biggest problems with the ‘leave camp’, they just can’t own their mistakes. They have to have a villain, a ‘big bad’. It has to be Eastern Europeans, brown people, ‘The Elite’ (but not wealthy politicians or media moguls of course), single mums etc etc. it can’t be their fault. They’re good, honest, hard working(?) Brits. It must be someone else’s fault. And if Brexit isn’t their fault it must be the fault of those who tried to stop Brexit.
Like the member of the public who tries to sue the paramedic that injures them giving them CPR, leavers are angry that they were duped. It is, as someone else pointed out, Project Told You So.
The truly sad part of it is that, thanks to Brexit being such a monumental mess, we’ve all lost.
Oh damn the torygraph admitting “project fear” (or reality as many of us called it) was true and not lies as they kept pushing, but they already knew that, its just now they can not deny it any longer and so admit to what they already knew and then they move on. and dont care because they got what they wanted out of the lies they helped push.
The year is 2168, reminders are to blame for the flooding of London, Darren Smith , 70, a Tory voter from Northampton is quoted as saying “ The flooding is all remainers fault! If they’d just got behind Brexit then the sea levels wouldn’t have risen! Remainers have ruined everything in this country.”
We were fine at the time right? No strikes and adding to the world’s woes, we were just sort of plodding along as a nation and getting along with it post global recession.
Now, yet again, we’re wasting time and energy trying to sort out a shithow of our own making
Who’d have know that erecting trade barriers against your largest trading partner would hurt the economy. It couldn’t have been predicted. s/
Wankers. Push for the result, put down every dissenting voice, cry when it’s as shit as you were told it was going to be.
We told you this would happen. We were very clear. Maybe “the experts” are experts for a fucking reason and should be listened to because they know what the fuck they are talking about…
But no, We’ll listen to racist Barry down the Frog and Whiskers for his University of Hard Knocks dumbass takes and go with that. Idiots.
No one should be allowed to vote on such life altering decisions without completing an IQ test first. In fact no one should be allowed to vote without having an IQ test and scoring at least 120 before being allowed to vote.
I found this line from the article obvious and interesting:
When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
It seems to me that the Tories have been very keen on libertarianism and free markets over recent years thinking that markets are smart and self regulating.
Maybe now they’re finally waking to the reality that without the right rules in place its more of a chaotic free for all to see who can grab as much as possible and run away with it in as short time as possible.
but… it’s still keeping the immigrants out… right?
-Brexiteers, i imagine
Yep, we thought she’d be a monster and she didn’t prove us wrong.
After Kwarzi’s comments about the mini-budget being ‘her’ idea, I give her two weeks tops before she’s dragged from No.10 screaming.
Wait wtf…..the Telegraph admitting this?!? Is this a parallel dimension??
“I told you so” doesn’t even cut it cause we’re all fucked by it.
I still wonder if Truss might just be a sleeper agent for the Lib Dems. Then the plan seems to be working
It’s outrageous that logical criticism was treated in this way. Look where it’s got us.
Soooooooo, now that their cocaine budget and house prices are being affected, suddenly these ‘journalists’ are finally doing some work instead of being lazy af tory propagandists?
Wonderful.
This war is not over yet! They want to remove the metric system, if you are not a landlord you are likely to be affected by this so we need to stop them
What the hell is this drivel. The article isn’t about Brexit whatsoever… It’s just another rant on the mini budget
Ah! A punctuation misinterpretation. I thought it was saying the attacker was an ardent remainer.
Thank you.
Of course it was!
I was watching a YouTube channel discussing how the far-right works and there was a clip of Nick Griffin basic saying something along the lines of “there’s the policies we are selling to the public and then there’s our real policies that we don’t tell the public about that we’ll do when we gain power”. That’s what the leave campaign did “we can be like Norway and Switzerland”, “no one is talking about leaving the SM”, “all of that is project fear”.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” (Philip K. Dick)
Project Fear, with all its flaws, got most things right, even under-estimated the damage, because many points were not just elementary economics, but also common sense.
Certain elementary facts and causality chains are not a matter of opinion, some are even axioms – but all these were reduced to dismissed subjective opinions by the Trump-like post-factual nonsense peddlers. And tada….
There’s still no point trying to explain this to a leaver. Like before Brexit, it’s like trying to explain particle physics to a house brick.
They just don’t have the capacity to understand anything more than memes or three word slogans.
Can someone please dumb down and simplify all this for me
If you voted to leave you got duped. Sucks but you gotta learn somehow. Try not to hand your life savings to an Internet scammer
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>Call it revenge of the Remainer Establishment, if you like. The revolution in the British economy promised by Leave campaigners six years ago finally seemed to go the way of all revolutionary movements this week: it ended up eating itself.
>
>Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as “Project Fear”, have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.
>
>A serious house price correction, substantially higher interest rates and a permanently impaired exchange rate may be the least of it.
>
>Credibility is all in politics, finance and economics; this week was the point at which the UK Government finally managed to lose all last remaining vestiges of it. Britain’s trusted institutional framework, together with its hard won reputation for sound money and certainty in policy, all went down the pan.
>
>Perhaps I exaggerate, but not since the humiliation of the International Monetary Fund bailout in 1976 have we seen an unravelling quite as spectacular. This too from a Tory Government with a substantial overall majority. It is scarcely believable.
>
>These are dark days for Tory MPs, who will be acutely aware that loss of reputation for economic competence is electoral poison for their party. As the former Chancellor, Philip Hammond, has already observed, that reputation has been comprehensively trashed by what’s just occurred.
>
>I feel sorry for Kwasi Kwarteng. He now bears the dubious distinction of being Britain’s second shortest serving Chancellor ever after Ian Macleod, who died in office almost immediately after being appointed.
>
>Others have been chasing the silver medal hard in the turmoil of the last several years; Sajid Javid lasted just six months, and Nadhim Zahawi only eight weeks. Anyone would think we had become Italy or Greece, such is the turnover in key government positions and the growing sense of political, economic and fiscal instability.
>
>Nor is the storm by any means yet over. Stripped of all authority and credibility, it is hard to see how Liz Truss, the Prime Minister, can survive the traumas of the past several weeks. As Norman Lamont said of John Major, she’s in office but not in power.
>
>The U-turn on corporation tax, the scapegoating of Kwarteng, and his replacement with the supposedly steadying hand of Jeremy Hunt is unlikely to save her. The cut in spending plans that she implied on Friday may be what the markets demand, but politically it threatens finally to destroy her.
>
>Kwarteng was a likeable Chancellor with many of the right intentions. He is not wrong about the need for radical action to correct multiple long term weaknesses and deficiencies in the UK economy. Many of the supply side measures announced in the mini-Budget were more than welcome, and might in time have made a significant difference to the UK’s long term growth trajectory.
>
>Yet the unfunded tax cuts were always going to be a bridge too far. Fiscal policy 101: you do not attempt to do a permanent fiscal giveaway against the backdrop of sharply rising inflation and interest rates, a punishing energy crisis, a current account deficit swollen to an unprecedented 8 percent of GDP, and a seemingly intractable black hole at the heart of the public finances.
>
>To have rejected independent assessment of the plans by the Office for Budget Responsibility only further added to the sense of alarm in financial markets.
>
>When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
>
>The idea that the £18bn a year of corporation tax revenues that seemed to be at the centre of this week’s rout would make the difference between national solvency and insolvency is almost beyond ridiculous. It would not have done. Yet sadly it became totemic in a wider loss of political and economic credibility, which has been cumulative now over a number of years.
>
>It is perhaps not so surprising that the passionate Remainer who became a passionate Brexiteer should choose to throw her Chancellor to the wolves in order to save her own skin.
>
>Yet the fact is that Truss was in lockstep with Kwarteng in challenging “economic orthodoxy” and the institutions that were its standard bearers. On the campaign trail she was, if anything, even more of a zealot for economic radicalism than Kwarteng.
>
>In any case, she plainly didn’t understand the sometimes destructive way markets interact with policy. It’s been a rude awakening.
>
>In the end, it was Andrew Bailey, Governor of the Bank of England, who brought matters to a head, by insisting that there would be no extension to the bond buying programme he had initiated to counter forced selling by UK pension funds.
>
>This has been widely portrayed as another foot in mouth episode by a Governor with something of a reputation for gaffes. Having failed, despite all the warning signs, to see the surge in inflation coming, the Bank fully deserves whatever criticism is thrown at it. The Bank has failed to conduct itself well in recent times.
>
>Even so, the Governor had little option but to say what he did. It makes no sense at all for a central bank, which is supposed to be tightening policy to fight inflation, to be simultaneously loosening it through resumed asset purchases.
>
>To do so would be seen by “Mr Market” as monetary financing, or what is sometimes referred to as “fiscal dominance”, where monetary policy is used to support the government’s fiscal needs.
>
>By making the programme time-limited, the Bank was able just about to pass its intervention off as justified on financial stability grounds. It would have been game over had Bailey made the programme open ended.
>
>Already, acute loss of credibility in monetary policy would have spiralled out of control, and the rout in bond markets would have gotten even worse.
>
>Once the Bank had made clear that it would be ending the programme as scheduled, the Government had no option but to reverse its fiscal plans. It would have been mayhem in the markets on Monday had it not done so.
>
>”Economic orthodoxy” is back in the saddle. But then it never really went away. Instead we had a brief aberration in which the Government, having dispensed with all sensible advice, thought bizarrely that it could defy gravity.
>
>If it had been done differently it might have succeeded, but it was not. We’ll be paying the consequences in reduced standing and prosperity for years, if not decades, to come.
Project Fear was what Project Reality was called by the Leavers.
wowowow. I actually clicked the link to make sure that this wasn’t some hoax, but it was the Telegraph, and it did admit to Project Fear being right. Damn.
“i’m usually not the one to say atodaso, but you know what? Atodaso, a fuckin atodaso”
My favourite comment on this story: “we haven’t even left! We are half in and half out!”. These people are morons.
Edit: New favourite comment alert!
“The British Establishment for the last six years has been determined to stop Brexit. It has finally succeeded”
Holy shit!
Bloody weird to call all the problems cause by brexit “Revenge of the Establishment Remainers” in an article where the author admits remainers were right all along and didn’t cause any of the issues themselves.
Great, so they admit it was a bad idea after spending twenty years starting the bin fire and five years stoking it
When’s the tele going to acknowledge their role in this?
Traitorous leavers tanked this great country for their little bigoted revolution.
Trickle down my daily hate balls and off your telegraph chin
There must be an inquiry into the lies the public were told by the leave campaigners.
Make all cuntservatives and brexiteers and their children third class citizens. Only way Britain can undo their damage.
The fact they still call it that shows they don’t really believe it
>revenge of the Remainer Establishment
Really? Who is that? And what have they done exactly? The article mentions nothing about it, and just goes on to try and rescue the reputation of the current Tory government.
​
>Tory MPs, who will be acutely aware that loss of reputation for economic competence is electoral poison for their party.
If they have ever had such a reputation it is only down to the dishonesty of institutions like the Telegraph. They have caused an economic crisis due to mishandling of the economy every time they’ve been in power.
​
>Kwarteng was a likeable Chancellor with many of the right intentions.
No he wasn’t likeable, and there is apparently no evidence he had the right intentions?
​
>He is not wrong about the need for radical action to correct multiple long term weaknesses and deficiencies in the UK economy
Technically correct, the UK does have those problems. But anyone who says he intends to fix them is being completely dishonest.
​
>Many of the supply side measures announced in the mini-Budget were more than welcome
By whom? Not the public
​
>and might in time have made a significant difference to the UK’s long term growth trajectory
As in, would have significantly harmed them. Lucky the markets flipped out because it seems to have reduced the long term damage he would have done.
Me, before the referendum: “Brexit will be an economic disaster, food and utility prices will rise, we will lose lots of skilled and unskilled labour particularly in public services, the UK will be a second-rate nation with significantly reduced political influence, and we will be putting younger generations at a huge disadvantage”
My in-laws: “Hold my blue passport”
Can we just move away from the ‘ remainers’ tag ? Much better to refer to the disenfranchised as ‘ re-joiners’
>When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
This is the thing which most confuses me about our economic system. Why do we give such power to nervous idiots who react to any event as though it is the end of the world?
“Revenge of the remainer establishment”? What divisive bullshit. Nobody wants revenge. We didn’t even want a divide in the first place. Crazy people did this to themselves by refusing to do their research or take facts into account while trusting obvious liars and cheats.
This highlights one of the biggest problems with the ‘leave camp’, they just can’t own their mistakes. They have to have a villain, a ‘big bad’. It has to be Eastern Europeans, brown people, ‘The Elite’ (but not wealthy politicians or media moguls of course), single mums etc etc. it can’t be their fault. They’re good, honest, hard working(?) Brits. It must be someone else’s fault. And if Brexit isn’t their fault it must be the fault of those who tried to stop Brexit.
Like the member of the public who tries to sue the paramedic that injures them giving them CPR, leavers are angry that they were duped. It is, as someone else pointed out, Project Told You So.
The truly sad part of it is that, thanks to Brexit being such a monumental mess, we’ve all lost.
Oh damn the torygraph admitting “project fear” (or reality as many of us called it) was true and not lies as they kept pushing, but they already knew that, its just now they can not deny it any longer and so admit to what they already knew and then they move on. and dont care because they got what they wanted out of the lies they helped push.
The year is 2168, reminders are to blame for the flooding of London, Darren Smith , 70, a Tory voter from Northampton is quoted as saying “ The flooding is all remainers fault! If they’d just got behind Brexit then the sea levels wouldn’t have risen! Remainers have ruined everything in this country.”
We were fine at the time right? No strikes and adding to the world’s woes, we were just sort of plodding along as a nation and getting along with it post global recession.
Now, yet again, we’re wasting time and energy trying to sort out a shithow of our own making
Who’d have know that erecting trade barriers against your largest trading partner would hurt the economy. It couldn’t have been predicted. s/
Wankers. Push for the result, put down every dissenting voice, cry when it’s as shit as you were told it was going to be.
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We told you this would happen. We were very clear. Maybe “the experts” are experts for a fucking reason and should be listened to because they know what the fuck they are talking about…
But no, We’ll listen to racist Barry down the Frog and Whiskers for his University of Hard Knocks dumbass takes and go with that. Idiots.
No one should be allowed to vote on such life altering decisions without completing an IQ test first. In fact no one should be allowed to vote without having an IQ test and scoring at least 120 before being allowed to vote.
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I found this line from the article obvious and interesting:
When we talk about “financial markets”, it is important to note that they are not some god-like arbiter of policy whose judgement on matters is beyond challenge, but essentially just a lot of excitable children who, with herd-like conformity, are merely chasing the money.
It seems to me that the Tories have been very keen on libertarianism and free markets over recent years thinking that markets are smart and self regulating.
Maybe now they’re finally waking to the reality that without the right rules in place its more of a chaotic free for all to see who can grab as much as possible and run away with it in as short time as possible.
but… it’s still keeping the immigrants out… right?
-Brexiteers, i imagine
Yep, we thought she’d be a monster and she didn’t prove us wrong.
After Kwarzi’s comments about the mini-budget being ‘her’ idea, I give her two weeks tops before she’s dragged from No.10 screaming.
Wait wtf…..the Telegraph admitting this?!? Is this a parallel dimension??
“I told you so” doesn’t even cut it cause we’re all fucked by it.
I still wonder if Truss might just be a sleeper agent for the Lib Dems. Then the plan seems to be working
It’s outrageous that logical criticism was treated in this way. Look where it’s got us.
Soooooooo, now that their cocaine budget and house prices are being affected, suddenly these ‘journalists’ are finally doing some work instead of being lazy af tory propagandists?
Wonderful.
This war is not over yet! They want to remove the metric system, if you are not a landlord you are likely to be affected by this so we need to stop them
What the hell is this drivel. The article isn’t about Brexit whatsoever… It’s just another rant on the mini budget
Ah! A punctuation misinterpretation. I thought it was saying the attacker was an ardent remainer.
Thank you.
Of course it was!
I was watching a YouTube channel discussing how the far-right works and there was a clip of Nick Griffin basic saying something along the lines of “there’s the policies we are selling to the public and then there’s our real policies that we don’t tell the public about that we’ll do when we gain power”. That’s what the leave campaign did “we can be like Norway and Switzerland”, “no one is talking about leaving the SM”, “all of that is project fear”.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” (Philip K. Dick)
Project Fear, with all its flaws, got most things right, even under-estimated the damage, because many points were not just elementary economics, but also common sense.
Certain elementary facts and causality chains are not a matter of opinion, some are even axioms – but all these were reduced to dismissed subjective opinions by the Trump-like post-factual nonsense peddlers. And tada….
There’s still no point trying to explain this to a leaver. Like before Brexit, it’s like trying to explain particle physics to a house brick.
They just don’t have the capacity to understand anything more than memes or three word slogans.
Can someone please dumb down and simplify all this for me
If you voted to leave you got duped. Sucks but you gotta learn somehow. Try not to hand your life savings to an Internet scammer