If Labour do win a majority of seats in the next election, failure to implement proportional representation will be their biggest failure.
Only when electoral parity is established, can the major issues which beset Britain be resolved
In the Southeast commuter belt seats it’ll be a Lib Dem surge rather than Labour I’d imagine.
The Lib Dem who infiltrated the party and sacrificed herself is doing her job. Go Lizzy!
We’re in NE Hampshire. It’s been a weird time- our MP is Jayawardena. Ask conservatives if he’s done anything for the area and they’ll say yes straight away. They can’t name anything. But no one else can see anything that he’s done either particular. A bipartisan agreement that I’ve experienced is that he’s only in it for himself. He backed Johnson then Truss then finds himself environment secretary, but votes against clean rivers- he was pro brexit when our area was anti- but I don’t believe for a minute he’ll lose the next election. I just don’t see it. People seem happy to vote for an mp who does nothing for anyone. Mad.
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This is all wishful thinking. The Tory party are the defacto Government of Britain in all but name. Labour will never get in as people won’t vote for a Tory-lite party when they can the real thing. Labour needs to go hard left to get back into power.
You have to wonder how the Tory members now feel about the choice they made. I’m no fan of Sunak either, but I think everyone always knew that he was far more competent than Truss.
There is no way that my city (Salisbury) will ever not be Tory. It is just the way of things.
I’d be very wary of polls at the moment, things are a bit too chaotic to get a reliable read on what would happen in an election. Hell, one apparently had the Tories winning just 4 seats.
I’d treat them as a (very) rough guide to voting intentions.
The polls should be saying that the Tories will win by a landslide then perhaps we’d get that badly needed General Election.
No Fox News in England? I don’t understand how a right-winger is being held accountable for incompetence, but I live in the USA.
Anyone worried that if she goes and someone else comes in it will be a cleanslate for the voters?
I’m from the U.S., and I have no idea what’s going on other than it seems like a lot of folks aren’t happy with Liz Truss.
Can someone explain what is going on in the U.K.?
Encouraging but Englands gonna vote them back in at some stage.
I voted Tory for Brexit last time (yes I know.. sue me) but next time will be Labour 100%. The Tories are beyond repair and Kier seems to be an alright bloke. Hopefully there is more of me although I live in a Tory stronghold so I guess we’ll see
I would never vote lib dem again after Clegg sold his soul along with the lib dem credibility to Cameron in 2010. All the shite we have endured since then stems from these 2 pieces of shit getting together.
I have never voted labour in my life but I’m really considering it. Have always been a conservative!
The election might be closer than you think, however. If the current turmoil calms down over the next year and Truss is given more time to prove her worth, nothing is impossible. Although I heard on the radio today that she is not up to it and could only have a matter of weeks till she is replaced again. If that happens, they are done.
I don’t think these polls are reliable. People are angry but Labour doesn’t have anyone with an ounce of charisma to represent them, and also offer no real solutions to people’s problems apart from wasting more tax payer money by throwing it at things to fix them. The UK desperately need new parties that push centrist views.
Winning southern seats is key. The north and the midlands are changeable. Larfe swathes of the south have never elected anything other than Tories. If those areas can be gained it would be huge
Truss doing more for Labour than Corbyn ever could
It’s not *just* due to Liz truss….
It’s that Liz truss came in on a downward slide and thought putting more heavy rocks in the cart would help.
Not *just* Liz Truss
She’s become the figurehead of the anger against the Tory party, but let’s make no mistake that this also sue to
– Boris’s scandals
– The Tory party handing billions to their mates in PPE/Covid emergency spending
– Falling living standards
– Wages not keeping up with inflation
– Lack of sufficient funding for the NHS
– Faltering public services
– Sewage being dumped into rivers
– Rising crime
– Increasing authoritarianism
– Lack of forward planning and investment
Etc etc. there a general anger against 12 years of blatant mismanagement. The Tory party has won 3 elections in a row *purely* from riding the Brexit train. That train has now reached its terminus, and it turns out the Tory party hasn’t bothered planning what to do when we got here.
The way they’re trying to pin everything onto Truss and Kwarteng is absurdly transparent – the public aren’t just going to say “oh good, that’s that sorted” if she’s removed from the role of PM.
It may soften the worst of the anger, especially if the next PM starts with some more people-centric policies – but the rest isn’t going to magically go away
Can someone link or give me a overview of what’s happened since she has been PM.
I checked out of politics at Boris but would love to have a recap, google gives me nothing.
Liz Truss or Rishi. Could they have found anyone worse, other than Hunt? I mean, really?
I just hope Starmer goes before the next GE. He is not PM material. Neither is Truss.
You mean “the blue wall” could fall?
That would be quite something to see.
At this point I’m wondering if Truss is actually secretly working with Labour to sack out Tory voters
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If Labour do win a majority of seats in the next election, failure to implement proportional representation will be their biggest failure.
Only when electoral parity is established, can the major issues which beset Britain be resolved
In the Southeast commuter belt seats it’ll be a Lib Dem surge rather than Labour I’d imagine.
The Lib Dem who infiltrated the party and sacrificed herself is doing her job. Go Lizzy!
We’re in NE Hampshire. It’s been a weird time- our MP is Jayawardena. Ask conservatives if he’s done anything for the area and they’ll say yes straight away. They can’t name anything. But no one else can see anything that he’s done either particular. A bipartisan agreement that I’ve experienced is that he’s only in it for himself. He backed Johnson then Truss then finds himself environment secretary, but votes against clean rivers- he was pro brexit when our area was anti- but I don’t believe for a minute he’ll lose the next election. I just don’t see it. People seem happy to vote for an mp who does nothing for anyone. Mad.
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This is all wishful thinking. The Tory party are the defacto Government of Britain in all but name. Labour will never get in as people won’t vote for a Tory-lite party when they can the real thing. Labour needs to go hard left to get back into power.
You have to wonder how the Tory members now feel about the choice they made. I’m no fan of Sunak either, but I think everyone always knew that he was far more competent than Truss.
There is no way that my city (Salisbury) will ever not be Tory. It is just the way of things.
I’d be very wary of polls at the moment, things are a bit too chaotic to get a reliable read on what would happen in an election. Hell, one apparently had the Tories winning just 4 seats.
I’d treat them as a (very) rough guide to voting intentions.
The polls should be saying that the Tories will win by a landslide then perhaps we’d get that badly needed General Election.
No Fox News in England? I don’t understand how a right-winger is being held accountable for incompetence, but I live in the USA.
Anyone worried that if she goes and someone else comes in it will be a cleanslate for the voters?
I’m from the U.S., and I have no idea what’s going on other than it seems like a lot of folks aren’t happy with Liz Truss.
Can someone explain what is going on in the U.K.?
Encouraging but Englands gonna vote them back in at some stage.
I voted Tory for Brexit last time (yes I know.. sue me) but next time will be Labour 100%. The Tories are beyond repair and Kier seems to be an alright bloke. Hopefully there is more of me although I live in a Tory stronghold so I guess we’ll see
I would never vote lib dem again after Clegg sold his soul along with the lib dem credibility to Cameron in 2010. All the shite we have endured since then stems from these 2 pieces of shit getting together.
I have never voted labour in my life but I’m really considering it. Have always been a conservative!
The election might be closer than you think, however. If the current turmoil calms down over the next year and Truss is given more time to prove her worth, nothing is impossible. Although I heard on the radio today that she is not up to it and could only have a matter of weeks till she is replaced again. If that happens, they are done.
I don’t think these polls are reliable. People are angry but Labour doesn’t have anyone with an ounce of charisma to represent them, and also offer no real solutions to people’s problems apart from wasting more tax payer money by throwing it at things to fix them. The UK desperately need new parties that push centrist views.
Winning southern seats is key. The north and the midlands are changeable. Larfe swathes of the south have never elected anything other than Tories. If those areas can be gained it would be huge
Truss doing more for Labour than Corbyn ever could
It’s not *just* due to Liz truss….
It’s that Liz truss came in on a downward slide and thought putting more heavy rocks in the cart would help.
Not *just* Liz Truss
She’s become the figurehead of the anger against the Tory party, but let’s make no mistake that this also sue to
– Boris’s scandals
– The Tory party handing billions to their mates in PPE/Covid emergency spending
– Falling living standards
– Wages not keeping up with inflation
– Lack of sufficient funding for the NHS
– Faltering public services
– Sewage being dumped into rivers
– Rising crime
– Increasing authoritarianism
– Lack of forward planning and investment
Etc etc. there a general anger against 12 years of blatant mismanagement. The Tory party has won 3 elections in a row *purely* from riding the Brexit train. That train has now reached its terminus, and it turns out the Tory party hasn’t bothered planning what to do when we got here.
The way they’re trying to pin everything onto Truss and Kwarteng is absurdly transparent – the public aren’t just going to say “oh good, that’s that sorted” if she’s removed from the role of PM.
It may soften the worst of the anger, especially if the next PM starts with some more people-centric policies – but the rest isn’t going to magically go away
Can someone link or give me a overview of what’s happened since she has been PM.
I checked out of politics at Boris but would love to have a recap, google gives me nothing.
Liz Truss or Rishi. Could they have found anyone worse, other than Hunt? I mean, really?
I just hope Starmer goes before the next GE. He is not PM material. Neither is Truss.
You mean “the blue wall” could fall?
That would be quite something to see.
At this point I’m wondering if Truss is actually secretly working with Labour to sack out Tory voters