>*Status: 17.10.2022, 18:52*
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>After weeks of wrangling, Chancellor Scholz has put his foot down: The three remaining nuclear power plants are to be allowed to continue running until April 15, 2023. He announced this in a letter to the responsible ministers.
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>The remaining three German nuclear power plants should be able to continue running until April 15, 2023 at the most. On the basis of his authority to issue directives, Scholz ordered that the legal basis be created for operating the Isar 2, Neckarwestheim 2 and Emsland nuclear power plants beyond December 31 until April 15, 2023 at the latest. He sent a letter to this effect to Economics Minister Robert Habeck, Environment Minister Steffi Lemke and Finance Minister Christian Lindner.
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>**Dispute between Greens and FDP**
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>For days, the FDP and the Greens in particular had argued over whether and how long the three nuclear power plants still in operation should continue to be operated. At a party conference over the weekend, the Greens had decided to support a so-called stretch operation for the Isar 2 and Neckarwestheim 2 reactors until mid-April 2023, if necessary.
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>The FDP also wanted to keep the third nuclear power plant, Emsland, connected to the grid and keep all three running until 2024. If necessary, nuclear power plants that have already been shut down should be reactivated.
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>**Lindner welcomes decision**
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>Scholz went on to write that “parallel to this decision,” an ambitious law to increase energy efficiency should be presented. In addition, he said, the political agreement reached by the economics ministries in the federal government and North Rhine-Westphalia with the energy company RWE on phasing out coal in the Rhenish mining region should be “implemented legislatively.” Among other things, the agreement provides for two lignite-fired power plants to run longer, until 2024, but to bring forward the coal phase-out in the Rhineland region by eight years to 2030.
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>In his letter, Scholz asks the responsible ministers to “now submit the corresponding regulatory proposals to the cabinet in a timely manner.” Lindner welcomed Scholz’s decision. “It is in the vital interest of our country and its economy that we maintain all power generation capacity this winter. The Chancellor has now provided clarity,” Lindner informed.
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>Translated with [www.DeepL.com/Translator](http://www.DeepL.com/Translator) (free version)
My flat in the outskirts of Berlin was just shaken by the seismic waves radiated from the point where he slapped his dick on the table.
At this point, “ya gotta do what ya gotta do”. As long as you’re self sufficient (as much as possible).
Our government is so stupid.
Just leave them running even past 2024 ffs
Well not really. They are extended only for a few weeks.
What would have been necessary is ordering new fuel rods so that we could have used them for several years. But the green ideologists were successful in blocking this.
Well, using the Richtlinienkompetenz in such a “blunt” way is perhaps not ideal, but at some points you’ve just got to do what you’ve got to do. At least the squabbling ministers, and their parties, can now get back to focussing all that energy on other matters.
Only utter fools and extremists believe you can leave nuclear power out of the energy mix. We need that shit if we want to make an actual transition. We need that shit if we want to get rid of Russia. Get it into your head, Germany. Most of the rest of Europe is already ahead of you.
We are in an unprecedented energy crisis, with finances due to corona already exhausted and they need 8 months to discuss if they should keep running nuclear power plants. This country is lost and it isn’t only the politicians fault, it is the voters that have enabled this behaviour and even agree with these garbage policies.
Just a reminder that the Greens still want a practically complete Oil and Gas ban in Germany:
The short term for Germany has to be painful, so it can start rebuilding as soon as possible.
I am here to gloat to the Germans who called me antisemitist and fucking what else for saying this has to be done. Germans always do the right thing after trying everything else first. Waiting for DE to start supporting Ukraine next.
Let’s make Germany the most-polluting country in Europe!
Lets hope that this is the compromise, both the FDP and the Greens can stomach. For comparison, originally it was planned to just extend the operating license for two reactors in the south and keep them in standby until April (to prevent forced blackouts in southern germany). Now it seems to me they also keep the one in Emsland up. Although at this point I am not sure if they mean to keep all three running now, or all three in standby.
To keep just the two in southern germany in standby mode, was by the way what the government (and that includes the FDP) agreed upon originally. Then came the election in Lower Saxony, where the FDP lost big and needed now something to improve their standing (and also to guarantee that Lindner won’t risk mutiny in his party). So they tried to renegotiate and were now partly successfull.
The thing though is, that Scholz just issued an order to draft a law that makes this possible. What he does not control however is if the green parliamentarians play along or demand something in return, because they just had a party delegate congress were they affirmed their stance on keeping just the two in standby.
So if it comes to worst, the german government will implode and we have new elections, were even a political gridlock is possible. At the worst time imaginable.
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>*Status: 17.10.2022, 18:52*
>
>After weeks of wrangling, Chancellor Scholz has put his foot down: The three remaining nuclear power plants are to be allowed to continue running until April 15, 2023. He announced this in a letter to the responsible ministers.
>
>The remaining three German nuclear power plants should be able to continue running until April 15, 2023 at the most. On the basis of his authority to issue directives, Scholz ordered that the legal basis be created for operating the Isar 2, Neckarwestheim 2 and Emsland nuclear power plants beyond December 31 until April 15, 2023 at the latest. He sent a letter to this effect to Economics Minister Robert Habeck, Environment Minister Steffi Lemke and Finance Minister Christian Lindner.
>
>**Dispute between Greens and FDP**
>
>For days, the FDP and the Greens in particular had argued over whether and how long the three nuclear power plants still in operation should continue to be operated. At a party conference over the weekend, the Greens had decided to support a so-called stretch operation for the Isar 2 and Neckarwestheim 2 reactors until mid-April 2023, if necessary.
>
>The FDP also wanted to keep the third nuclear power plant, Emsland, connected to the grid and keep all three running until 2024. If necessary, nuclear power plants that have already been shut down should be reactivated.
>
>**Lindner welcomes decision**
>
>Scholz went on to write that “parallel to this decision,” an ambitious law to increase energy efficiency should be presented. In addition, he said, the political agreement reached by the economics ministries in the federal government and North Rhine-Westphalia with the energy company RWE on phasing out coal in the Rhenish mining region should be “implemented legislatively.” Among other things, the agreement provides for two lignite-fired power plants to run longer, until 2024, but to bring forward the coal phase-out in the Rhineland region by eight years to 2030.
>
>In his letter, Scholz asks the responsible ministers to “now submit the corresponding regulatory proposals to the cabinet in a timely manner.” Lindner welcomed Scholz’s decision. “It is in the vital interest of our country and its economy that we maintain all power generation capacity this winter. The Chancellor has now provided clarity,” Lindner informed.
>
>Translated with [www.DeepL.com/Translator](http://www.DeepL.com/Translator) (free version)
My flat in the outskirts of Berlin was just shaken by the seismic waves radiated from the point where he slapped his dick on the table.
At this point, “ya gotta do what ya gotta do”. As long as you’re self sufficient (as much as possible).
Our government is so stupid.
Just leave them running even past 2024 ffs
Well not really. They are extended only for a few weeks.
What would have been necessary is ordering new fuel rods so that we could have used them for several years. But the green ideologists were successful in blocking this.
Well, using the Richtlinienkompetenz in such a “blunt” way is perhaps not ideal, but at some points you’ve just got to do what you’ve got to do. At least the squabbling ministers, and their parties, can now get back to focussing all that energy on other matters.
Only utter fools and extremists believe you can leave nuclear power out of the energy mix. We need that shit if we want to make an actual transition. We need that shit if we want to get rid of Russia. Get it into your head, Germany. Most of the rest of Europe is already ahead of you.
We are in an unprecedented energy crisis, with finances due to corona already exhausted and they need 8 months to discuss if they should keep running nuclear power plants. This country is lost and it isn’t only the politicians fault, it is the voters that have enabled this behaviour and even agree with these garbage policies.
Just a reminder that the Greens still want a practically complete Oil and Gas ban in Germany:
https://www.fraktion.gruene-niedersachsen.de/themen/klimaschutz-energie-atom/gasausstieg.html
The short term for Germany has to be painful, so it can start rebuilding as soon as possible.
I am here to gloat to the Germans who called me antisemitist and fucking what else for saying this has to be done. Germans always do the right thing after trying everything else first. Waiting for DE to start supporting Ukraine next.
Keep burning [coals](https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1124448463/germany-coal-energy-crisis) instead, Germany… That will solve problems.
Let’s make Germany the most-polluting country in Europe!
Lets hope that this is the compromise, both the FDP and the Greens can stomach. For comparison, originally it was planned to just extend the operating license for two reactors in the south and keep them in standby until April (to prevent forced blackouts in southern germany). Now it seems to me they also keep the one in Emsland up. Although at this point I am not sure if they mean to keep all three running now, or all three in standby.
To keep just the two in southern germany in standby mode, was by the way what the government (and that includes the FDP) agreed upon originally. Then came the election in Lower Saxony, where the FDP lost big and needed now something to improve their standing (and also to guarantee that Lindner won’t risk mutiny in his party). So they tried to renegotiate and were now partly successfull.
The thing though is, that Scholz just issued an order to draft a law that makes this possible. What he does not control however is if the green parliamentarians play along or demand something in return, because they just had a party delegate congress were they affirmed their stance on keeping just the two in standby.
So if it comes to worst, the german government will implode and we have new elections, were even a political gridlock is possible. At the worst time imaginable.
But the greens would never do that…