Since when western Europe recognises eastern European qualifications? I have seen plenty of professionals told they need to do few years here to get recognised which unfortunately is not possible. They can’t pay bills and school at the same time or even attend cause they work.
>Salekh said he does not have a certificate to prove his English and will have to work a “period of adaptation”, a new part of the Dental Council’ registration which involves supervision by an Irish dentist to prove their qualifications, experience and English skills are sufficient.
This all sounds fair enough to me.
Fair is fair, if I were to move to Ukraine tomorrow, I imagine I would have to sit conversion exams by virtue of the fact I’m a Lawyer. That’s the standard for professional classes moving outside their qualifying jurisdiction
None of this is unfair. Apart from the grossly, deeply unfair part where Russia invaded Ukraine.
But the bits in Ireland where we want our professional standards upheld? That’s fair. They’re utterly immersed in the English language, their standard will get there reasonably quickly and if their training is on a par with what’s required here, then they can be assessed and return to normal in a relatively short period of time. If their training isn’t up to standard, well that’s unfortunate for them but not a reason for standards to be lowered.
UK, not Ireland / We (college) have hundreds of Ukrainian professionals in my college with high levels of English. Teachers, musicians, doctors, nurses and others who cannot find work so they’re stuck with us doing ESOL and FS Maths because that’s a paper UK employers recognise. Some feel extreme humiliation working as cleaners but I try to cheer them up as I started the same way. It’s not as easy but these people I have met are determined to thrive wherever. Some are going back home, including teenagers missing their families. Oh the heartbreak.I have so much respect for them all.
Veterinary school is 4 years in the Ukraine but 5 years in Ireland. Understandably it’s not transferable by default. The curriculum between the two is clearly not aligned.
Not trying to be rude about Salekh, but people that hold citizenship from a country other than Ukraine as well shouldn’t really be eligible for all the refugee supports. We have a massive housing crisis and it costs us hundreds per month just to accommodate each refugee, nevermind additional support for living expenses etc.
Hundreds a month so Salekh can look for work as a baker in the west of Ireland. Does this really make sense, considering he most likely has citizenship elsewhere too? Would it really be unfair to require him to go to, you know, a country he holds citizenship in?
Loads of people move to a country with almost full employment at roughly the same time and struggle to find jobs.
There. Fixed the headline.
WTF? I assumed the story really was about not being able to find work and being unemployed, but it’s about not having their qualifications recognised and not being able to work in their chosen profession.
No sympathy sorry. You’re lucky to be alive and you’re lucky another country took you in and you are able to support yourself with work. Who cares that the work isn’t fancy.
Not only that, but this war isn’t going to go on too much longer and they’ll be able to go back. I give it a year.
Ya same thing happened to my da qualified butcher in czech Republic can’t get a job as a butcher sence he got here years ago and is a courier now some times u gotta move on and deal with it
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Why aren’t her vet skills recognised here?
Since when western Europe recognises eastern European qualifications? I have seen plenty of professionals told they need to do few years here to get recognised which unfortunately is not possible. They can’t pay bills and school at the same time or even attend cause they work.
>Salekh said he does not have a certificate to prove his English and will have to work a “period of adaptation”, a new part of the Dental Council’ registration which involves supervision by an Irish dentist to prove their qualifications, experience and English skills are sufficient.
This all sounds fair enough to me.
Fair is fair, if I were to move to Ukraine tomorrow, I imagine I would have to sit conversion exams by virtue of the fact I’m a Lawyer. That’s the standard for professional classes moving outside their qualifying jurisdiction
None of this is unfair. Apart from the grossly, deeply unfair part where Russia invaded Ukraine.
But the bits in Ireland where we want our professional standards upheld? That’s fair. They’re utterly immersed in the English language, their standard will get there reasonably quickly and if their training is on a par with what’s required here, then they can be assessed and return to normal in a relatively short period of time. If their training isn’t up to standard, well that’s unfortunate for them but not a reason for standards to be lowered.
UK, not Ireland / We (college) have hundreds of Ukrainian professionals in my college with high levels of English. Teachers, musicians, doctors, nurses and others who cannot find work so they’re stuck with us doing ESOL and FS Maths because that’s a paper UK employers recognise. Some feel extreme humiliation working as cleaners but I try to cheer them up as I started the same way. It’s not as easy but these people I have met are determined to thrive wherever. Some are going back home, including teenagers missing their families. Oh the heartbreak.I have so much respect for them all.
Veterinary school is 4 years in the Ukraine but 5 years in Ireland. Understandably it’s not transferable by default. The curriculum between the two is clearly not aligned.
Not trying to be rude about Salekh, but people that hold citizenship from a country other than Ukraine as well shouldn’t really be eligible for all the refugee supports. We have a massive housing crisis and it costs us hundreds per month just to accommodate each refugee, nevermind additional support for living expenses etc.
Hundreds a month so Salekh can look for work as a baker in the west of Ireland. Does this really make sense, considering he most likely has citizenship elsewhere too? Would it really be unfair to require him to go to, you know, a country he holds citizenship in?
Loads of people move to a country with almost full employment at roughly the same time and struggle to find jobs.
There. Fixed the headline.
WTF? I assumed the story really was about not being able to find work and being unemployed, but it’s about not having their qualifications recognised and not being able to work in their chosen profession.
No sympathy sorry. You’re lucky to be alive and you’re lucky another country took you in and you are able to support yourself with work. Who cares that the work isn’t fancy.
Not only that, but this war isn’t going to go on too much longer and they’ll be able to go back. I give it a year.
Ya same thing happened to my da qualified butcher in czech Republic can’t get a job as a butcher sence he got here years ago and is a courier now some times u gotta move on and deal with it