Yes of course they should pay a contribution if they’re working or on financial supports. Pensioners/People on disability have to pay rent as a portion of their income so why not people in direct provision, especially if they’re working.
Some people in long term Direct Provision haven’t received Refugee status and are doing multiple appeals. So technically they haven’t even met the criteria to be considered refugees.
Don’t see a major problem with this if you’re working. Applicants for international protection can get labour market access and some do work full time. It’s not a good use of state resources to be fully funding accomodation for people who should be able to stand on their own when there are more vulnerable people in need of support.
Ultimately it all comes down to supply, and the lack of it.
If you’re in DP “long-term” all that says to me and anyone with common sense is that you should have been sent packing a long time ago. Pay rent? Pay for a plane ticket home.
It’s been going on too long, the vast majority of people see through this “poor me stuck in DP long term by the evil government” bullshit. And the sympathy peddling by the Irish media and the zillion NGO who benefit from the propagation of this system.
I think they should have to pay but I vehemently oppose any exception being made for Ukrainians. It’s ridiculous that we’ve created a two tier refugee system. Anybody who works whether Ukrainian or an asylum seeker from elsewhere should be required to contribute
A well written piece. Good to see figures put on paper. It shows alot of people who have come here are trying to rebuild a life, looking for work to support themselves, not looking to sponge off the state.
Certainly our system has allowed a small number of people to abuse the system but one crucial point is the ‘small number on direct provision for several years’ are most likely not Ukrainian since that conflict only started this year (not forgetting Crimea in 2014 of course).
It highlights how things are when someone is on direct provision for several years, with multiple appeals to refugee status that their initial seeking of asylum did not fulfil requirements. At that point most countries would have deported them or moved them from the state. It’s a mockery of the system.
Our housing crisis is bad, our energy crisis will worsen soon, yet we still hold out a hand to help others who need it. We are not racist people, and shouldn’t be branded as such when we highlight when someone is clearly abusing a system trying to help those in need.
This seems like a cleaver way to help with the people who aren’t eligible but just keep appealing so that they can work here
People that are working full time should pay a contribution towards their rent in DP centres. It certainly shouldn’t be free.
We should absolutely be doing this, our asylum process is a joke , we should up deportations and stop these people taking the piss
Long-term direct provision is on the way out, and IPSS is on the way in. This issue has already been resolved. Solid research from the auld Irish Times.
Didn’t the government pledge to abolish direct provision.
As long as it doesn’t harm the Ukrainians
There should be a 2-strike rule. If your application is for asylum is denied twice you should be send back from whatever country you have claimed to come from. I’m sick if this shite of people staying in DP for years with unlimited appeals. A total waste of resources and robs a position of people who are genuinely seeking asylum.
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Yes of course they should pay a contribution if they’re working or on financial supports. Pensioners/People on disability have to pay rent as a portion of their income so why not people in direct provision, especially if they’re working.
Some people in long term Direct Provision haven’t received Refugee status and are doing multiple appeals. So technically they haven’t even met the criteria to be considered refugees.
Don’t see a major problem with this if you’re working. Applicants for international protection can get labour market access and some do work full time. It’s not a good use of state resources to be fully funding accomodation for people who should be able to stand on their own when there are more vulnerable people in need of support.
It’s been an issue for [years now that even those with refugee status were staying in Direct Provision](https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-30955050.html) – market accomodation is too expensive compared with what’s offered by direct provision.
Ultimately it all comes down to supply, and the lack of it.
If you’re in DP “long-term” all that says to me and anyone with common sense is that you should have been sent packing a long time ago. Pay rent? Pay for a plane ticket home.
It’s been going on too long, the vast majority of people see through this “poor me stuck in DP long term by the evil government” bullshit. And the sympathy peddling by the Irish media and the zillion NGO who benefit from the propagation of this system.
I think they should have to pay but I vehemently oppose any exception being made for Ukrainians. It’s ridiculous that we’ve created a two tier refugee system. Anybody who works whether Ukrainian or an asylum seeker from elsewhere should be required to contribute
A well written piece. Good to see figures put on paper. It shows alot of people who have come here are trying to rebuild a life, looking for work to support themselves, not looking to sponge off the state.
Certainly our system has allowed a small number of people to abuse the system but one crucial point is the ‘small number on direct provision for several years’ are most likely not Ukrainian since that conflict only started this year (not forgetting Crimea in 2014 of course).
It highlights how things are when someone is on direct provision for several years, with multiple appeals to refugee status that their initial seeking of asylum did not fulfil requirements. At that point most countries would have deported them or moved them from the state. It’s a mockery of the system.
Our housing crisis is bad, our energy crisis will worsen soon, yet we still hold out a hand to help others who need it. We are not racist people, and shouldn’t be branded as such when we highlight when someone is clearly abusing a system trying to help those in need.
This seems like a cleaver way to help with the people who aren’t eligible but just keep appealing so that they can work here
People that are working full time should pay a contribution towards their rent in DP centres. It certainly shouldn’t be free.
We should absolutely be doing this, our asylum process is a joke , we should up deportations and stop these people taking the piss
Long-term direct provision is on the way out, and IPSS is on the way in. This issue has already been resolved. Solid research from the auld Irish Times.
Didn’t the government pledge to abolish direct provision.
As long as it doesn’t harm the Ukrainians
There should be a 2-strike rule. If your application is for asylum is denied twice you should be send back from whatever country you have claimed to come from. I’m sick if this shite of people staying in DP for years with unlimited appeals. A total waste of resources and robs a position of people who are genuinely seeking asylum.