With our growing population we need to move away from the 3 bed semi D American style housing. Urban sprawl is impossible to service by public transport etc.
I’m thinking of selling my house and sleeping in the shed
A garden private enough to shit in, and big enough that you don’t have to worry about stepping in it later.
Question for the social science crew that have some great knowledge . Do Irish people has some type of self esteem issue or is it just a American culture, where people aspire to drive big high emission SUV’s and live in expansive housing with poor services. I’ve visited a lot of places in Europe its not common. I reminds me more of my trip to Texas in 2018.
I mean if success is owning a house and not being a tiktok/youtube/instagram influencer, being rich (billionaire. Sure we’d want some dosh but y’know.) or working your self ragged in a company.
Owning a house with a garden is a good humble stand.
“a new study found Ireland is one of the top-three cities”
Indo is shit
Success in ireland is married with two kids and qualify for a 300,000 euro mortgage to buy a shitty house in a shitty town and struggle to keep your head above water for your working life then get treated like shit for your OAP years
What kind of house does he have himself? Where is it? Is it a house with a big garden? I assume this is another example of someone privileged telling the rest of us to put up with the shitty stuff….
I agree with him that more people should live in the cities or within walking distance. I don’t share his optimism that an Irish developer would make everyone’s garden a bit smaller in order to make a park for the community.
I don’t think going to a park is a sufficient substitute for having a garden of your own.
“In Europe it’s about the facilities and the parks you live close to. Civic amenities are huge abroad, but they are not given the same attention here.”
Because our Civic amenities are either dogshit or don’t exist. Even in the middle of our capital city there is not one single public square where people could meet and spend time together. Even if it was to exist it would be surrounded by dirty, noisy cars and people would be hassled by junkies and scumbags on the street the whole time.
The city centre was left to rot after all the who could afford it escaped to the suburbs for a house of their own, and the three bed with a garden has been lodged in our society as a measure of success ever since. We destroyed large parts of Dublin to widen roads just so the rich could drive their cars into work from their leafy suburbs without having to interact with the poors on the street. Anyone who lives in dense housing developments were living in tenements or the flats, and therefore we still hold these same connotations today. Even today in our world of “modern luxury apartments” these opinions aren’t far from the truth. [Nearly 50% of all private renters in the country receive some form of rent support.](https://www.thejournal.ie/esri-renting-report-findings-5774425-May2022/) The overwhelming majority of these renters are in high density housing developments that are built to some of the worst standards in the entire EU. No insulation, No soundproofing, No privacy, No storage, No security for vehicles or bicycles, No protection from anti-social behavior from neighbors. Apartment living can be hell in Dublin. Renters and apartment dwellers continue to be treated as second-class citizens in our society, people who don’t deserve the right to a decent living, because culturally we treat them as people who should “just get a house” and if they don’t, then they are treated as a failure, and they will just have to just deal with the issues of living in dense accommodation in Ireland. It’s their fault.
This will only continue as Approved housing bodies, social housing under another name, are the only purchasers of new apartments that have sprung up in the last couple of years. They’re the flats of the future and our connotations with dense housing being for those who cannot afford a “real house” will only exacerbate from there.
I don’t think Irish society will ever see dense housing as success compared to the 3-bed Semi-D with the large back garden. So we’ll continue to build them, continue to urban sprawl, and continue to have the worst public transport infrastructure of any major European capital. Most Irish want to own a big 3-bed Semi-D with a SUV out front so they can convince everyone else that they’ve done well for themselves.
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life…
Why did anyone ask this prick?
honestly, I wouldn’t mind that, if I’m lucky though its a shoebox or a houseshare
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With our growing population we need to move away from the 3 bed semi D American style housing. Urban sprawl is impossible to service by public transport etc.
I’m thinking of selling my house and sleeping in the shed
A garden private enough to shit in, and big enough that you don’t have to worry about stepping in it later.
Question for the social science crew that have some great knowledge . Do Irish people has some type of self esteem issue or is it just a American culture, where people aspire to drive big high emission SUV’s and live in expansive housing with poor services. I’ve visited a lot of places in Europe its not common. I reminds me more of my trip to Texas in 2018.
I mean if success is owning a house and not being a tiktok/youtube/instagram influencer, being rich (billionaire. Sure we’d want some dosh but y’know.) or working your self ragged in a company.
Owning a house with a garden is a good humble stand.
“a new study found Ireland is one of the top-three cities”
Indo is shit
Success in ireland is married with two kids and qualify for a 300,000 euro mortgage to buy a shitty house in a shitty town and struggle to keep your head above water for your working life then get treated like shit for your OAP years
What kind of house does he have himself? Where is it? Is it a house with a big garden? I assume this is another example of someone privileged telling the rest of us to put up with the shitty stuff….
I agree with him that more people should live in the cities or within walking distance. I don’t share his optimism that an Irish developer would make everyone’s garden a bit smaller in order to make a park for the community.
I don’t think going to a park is a sufficient substitute for having a garden of your own.
“In Europe it’s about the facilities and the parks you live close to. Civic amenities are huge abroad, but they are not given the same attention here.”
Because our Civic amenities are either dogshit or don’t exist. Even in the middle of our capital city there is not one single public square where people could meet and spend time together. Even if it was to exist it would be surrounded by dirty, noisy cars and people would be hassled by junkies and scumbags on the street the whole time.
The city centre was left to rot after all the who could afford it escaped to the suburbs for a house of their own, and the three bed with a garden has been lodged in our society as a measure of success ever since. We destroyed large parts of Dublin to widen roads just so the rich could drive their cars into work from their leafy suburbs without having to interact with the poors on the street. Anyone who lives in dense housing developments were living in tenements or the flats, and therefore we still hold these same connotations today. Even today in our world of “modern luxury apartments” these opinions aren’t far from the truth. [Nearly 50% of all private renters in the country receive some form of rent support.](https://www.thejournal.ie/esri-renting-report-findings-5774425-May2022/) The overwhelming majority of these renters are in high density housing developments that are built to some of the worst standards in the entire EU. No insulation, No soundproofing, No privacy, No storage, No security for vehicles or bicycles, No protection from anti-social behavior from neighbors. Apartment living can be hell in Dublin. Renters and apartment dwellers continue to be treated as second-class citizens in our society, people who don’t deserve the right to a decent living, because culturally we treat them as people who should “just get a house” and if they don’t, then they are treated as a failure, and they will just have to just deal with the issues of living in dense accommodation in Ireland. It’s their fault.
This will only continue as Approved housing bodies, social housing under another name, are the only purchasers of new apartments that have sprung up in the last couple of years. They’re the flats of the future and our connotations with dense housing being for those who cannot afford a “real house” will only exacerbate from there.
I don’t think Irish society will ever see dense housing as success compared to the 3-bed Semi-D with the large back garden. So we’ll continue to build them, continue to urban sprawl, and continue to have the worst public transport infrastructure of any major European capital. Most Irish want to own a big 3-bed Semi-D with a SUV out front so they can convince everyone else that they’ve done well for themselves.
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life…
Why did anyone ask this prick?
honestly, I wouldn’t mind that, if I’m lucky though its a shoebox or a houseshare