Let’s just never build anything and be miserable forever
>Today’s news has been welcomed by Green Party Senator Pauline O’Reilly.She said it should lead to a “reimagined Galway”, with a much greater emphasis on public and active travel to ease the city’s gridlock.
And what are these suggestions to sort out the traffic problems and when are they being implemented?
The greens are going to have us back in the dark ages
This Lack of Ring Road around Galway City has been strangling Galway and West Galway for over 20 yrs.
It needs to be done now
So predictable and an awful decision for the people of Galway.
I said before and I will say it again, the f**cking greens and other “Utopian” public figures are adding misery onto the lives of everyday commuters.
And do gooder voters with no skin in the game, who will not be affected by their proposals keep returning these Muppets to office. All because they say the right things, make empty promises and have a well oiled pr machine.
They are like a borderline terrorist organisation political party.
It’s because of them that we closed down peat fired power stations in the middle of an energy crisis, it’s because of them that we have fuel prices that are amongst the most expensive in Europe. It’s partly their fault that older people will be hesitant (or in the event of a power cut unable) to heat up their homes during the coldest parts the winter.
Some would say that they indirectly have a larger body count than the Irish Republican Army.
It’s not the roads, it’s the roundabouts. A bit better traffic management would go a long way in Galway.
Waiting for the comment to say a light rail will stop the queue back to Oranmore in the mornings. Or how roads create traffic, as if you could solve Dublin’s traffic by closing the M50.
Where’s Galway’s light rail and tram system? GART please.
I’m seeing a lot of comments that are either;
(a) delighted that it’s quashed in favour of a fictional future increase in public transport that we can agree will never be provided, or
(b) saddened by the fact that traffic is only going to get worse in the city with no future increase in public transport possible.
Why the hell can we not have BOTH the ring road constructed AND increase the levels of cycling, public transport, park & rides etc for the city. Not all of the people using these roads are headed straight for Eyre Square.
A complete disregard of the various types of commuter and the populations that have to transit via the city with different end destinations.
Concurrently a missed opportunity to free up road space for properly segregated cycle lanes and bus lanes and calmer public spaces.
ABP seems to be utterly and completely unfit for purpose in the current era. Why not take the current review process to abolish this and it’s personnel and have a fundamental rethink? Possibly with 3 wings, one commercial, one residential and one infrastructural?
Complete joke. Galway traffic was a disaster when I lived there and from what I hear it’s not got much better. Fact of the matter is you have desirable jobs in the east and desirable housing in the west and the only way to get from one to the other is by going into the city.
I hear moans of ‘public transport should be increased’. Pointless adding buses that will just be sitting in the same traffic, if only there were some way of bypassing the city that those buses could use instead or when the bypass opens close a lane on the bridge, Headford Rd for buses only and buses will go most places faster than any car. You need the ringroad for that though..
I hear moans of ‘gAlWay aLrEaDy hAs a RiNgRoad!’. Funny looking ring road that starts and ends inside the city. Yea it wasn’t like that when it was built and no the same thing can’t happen because of a giant fucking lake it will go across.
Braindead if you oppose it, it’s not a solution but makes other solutions much, much easier.
The eye watering stupidity of the people opposing this is, from experience, not worth engaging with. They have a single argument and nothing gets through. So don’t bother. Today is definitely a setback but the ring road is inevitable. Public infrastructure of this scale usually takes a few attempts anyway. Ireland just happens to be a particularly bureaucratic system. The bord conceding on a technicality is unsurprising in the current climate. Likely to be lodged again in 2 years with an extremely similar plan and more robust application in terms of objections. The majority of which have played all of their cards now. I look forward to the ring road as an actual user of Galway public transport and roads. Fair play and don’t give up to all the engineers and others who are working extremely hard on this.
Well now…that’s a double barrel to the foot isn’t it.
Imagine if they started putting in a useable public transport system in the city and suburbs when this whole outer bypass thing started up. We would have ended up not needing the bypass. Now we have neither. Sometimes I hate this fucking country.
No wonder traffic around Galway is insanity
Handbag theory of capacity.
I live and drive in Galway. At this point I think we should just forget the ring road and design and build a proper public transport system for the city. Light rail and busses and bar road traffic from the city centre.
ABP are clearly disfunctional. Consider this ruling in the light of the recent quashing of 1,400 new homes in Dublin, again due to issues where the law was not followed. To compound the problem, we have a Minister who has just announced legislation to remove judicial review of the planning process – effectively throwing in the towel rather than making ABP actually obey the law like everyone else.
How can a functioning planning board *not be aware* of landmark evironmental legislation passed just 4 days beforehand? How does that even happen? Either they are pumbing new depths of incompetence, or they are baldly lying and were just too lazy to bother with new information. Either way, they are not fulfilling their function to the State.
I would also caution the Green Party and supporters of being too happy about this. This decision does not remove a single car from Galway roads, which will continue to sit for literally hours 5 or 6 days a week, chugging out fumes all over Galway. It doesn’t add any buses, or create a light rail system, or add bike lanes. It just means that the roads that are there will be filled to the brim with cars, with no space for lanes of any desciption to be added. You might say that this decision will add imputus to those projects – to which I would point out that the State has been ‘looking at’ light rail for Galway since the last century; this bypass was first mooted in 1995. That’s the pace of investment in Galway. Even with the go-ahead last November, the project was still going to take 4 years. How long does Galway have to wait now?
Greens talking about ‘alternatives’ has the same hollow ring as Brexiteers talking about ‘technological solutions’ to the border. There are practical and real things that can and should be accomplished for the environment of this country; but when it comes to stopping development without having an actual tangible alternative in place, you should just take a step back and fuck off. Enjoy getting obliterated at the polls. Again.
These ring roads are a thing of the past. Galway needs to rethink its transport strategy and catch up with 21st century transport and spatial planning. Many people seem to be under the very mistaken belief that it would solve congestion. The planning reports conceded that it wouldn’t. It is really about opening up outlying land for sprawling development. Galway is fortunate this has been stopped.
Build a tunnel from oranmore to spiddal
There’s enough roads already and the traffic is a disaster. They should build a tramline.
I’m so sick of this nonsense. This country just doesn’t know how to get out of its own way.
Always great to see loads of comments from people not from Galway about this issue, or those who live within the city bounds and can walk or cycle to work.
If I used public transport it would take me 1.5 hours to make the 15 KM journey!!
This was needed for Galway. Galway is being strangled to death by the amount of traffic it has. The big employers won’t expand their operations here due to the traffic, I know cause I worked for the biggest of them.
Instead you get retarded fuckin parrots come on here going “Light rail! Light rail!”
To those idiots, where is your plan for light rail? Like you obviously have a turn key ready to go solution on the books for implementation and completion in Galway within the next 5 years yes? There’s no way you would actually comment “light rail” repeatedly without a 100% ready to go plan to take the place of the bypass right? Right? Or are you just spewing fucking horse shit cause anything is better than another road in your privileged eyes?
I love the politicians celebrating this by saying ” we can now start planning for sustainable travel” What in the name of Jesus was holding you back from planning it before now. Was this road making all other projects impossible or what. Bloody joke
Excellent news. If they intended this to be a traffic relief scheme to make space for sustainable transport, then they should have included the sustainable transport as part of the scheme from the start. People are constantly criticising gridlock on the crorrib bridges, yet this scheme didn’t included a single restriction on through traffic in the city centre. Building a bypass without restricting traffic through the gridlocked city centre once it opens is not a proper traffic management plan.
They just wanted to build a big road and thought vague commitments to maybe think about public transport in the future would be enough to ignore all the climate impacts.
Well they were wrong. If you live in Galway, you deserve to be angry. But you should be angry at the politicians and officials who pushed for the most expensive, most destructive, most car-centric option available, rather than a comprehensive walking, cycling, and public transport strategy, with perhaps a relief/ring road attached to remove city centre traffic.
Also be angry at your council who are hell bent on blocking absolutely anything that might reduce traffic. In other countries, cities of this size simply do not have the traffic that Galway has. This is largely caused by political choices, not the absence of a ring road.
Buses need roads too.
As a Galway resident, i can say that this is totally good and Galway does not have any traffic problem. (Hopefully my sarcasm is evident in that statement). Absolutely scandalous that it has been quashed yet again. Traffic in galway is getting worse with each passing day. Takes me roughly 1 hour to travel a 15-20 min journey everday.
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How many years has the been in planning?
Let’s just never build anything and be miserable forever
>Today’s news has been welcomed by Green Party Senator Pauline O’Reilly.She said it should lead to a “reimagined Galway”, with a much greater emphasis on public and active travel to ease the city’s gridlock.
And what are these suggestions to sort out the traffic problems and when are they being implemented?
The greens are going to have us back in the dark ages
This Lack of Ring Road around Galway City has been strangling Galway and West Galway for over 20 yrs.
It needs to be done now
So predictable and an awful decision for the people of Galway.
I said before and I will say it again, the f**cking greens and other “Utopian” public figures are adding misery onto the lives of everyday commuters.
And do gooder voters with no skin in the game, who will not be affected by their proposals keep returning these Muppets to office. All because they say the right things, make empty promises and have a well oiled pr machine.
They are like a borderline terrorist organisation political party.
It’s because of them that we closed down peat fired power stations in the middle of an energy crisis, it’s because of them that we have fuel prices that are amongst the most expensive in Europe. It’s partly their fault that older people will be hesitant (or in the event of a power cut unable) to heat up their homes during the coldest parts the winter.
Some would say that they indirectly have a larger body count than the Irish Republican Army.
It’s not the roads, it’s the roundabouts. A bit better traffic management would go a long way in Galway.
Waiting for the comment to say a light rail will stop the queue back to Oranmore in the mornings. Or how roads create traffic, as if you could solve Dublin’s traffic by closing the M50.
Where’s Galway’s light rail and tram system? GART please.
I’m seeing a lot of comments that are either;
(a) delighted that it’s quashed in favour of a fictional future increase in public transport that we can agree will never be provided, or
(b) saddened by the fact that traffic is only going to get worse in the city with no future increase in public transport possible.
Why the hell can we not have BOTH the ring road constructed AND increase the levels of cycling, public transport, park & rides etc for the city. Not all of the people using these roads are headed straight for Eyre Square.
A complete disregard of the various types of commuter and the populations that have to transit via the city with different end destinations.
Concurrently a missed opportunity to free up road space for properly segregated cycle lanes and bus lanes and calmer public spaces.
ABP seems to be utterly and completely unfit for purpose in the current era. Why not take the current review process to abolish this and it’s personnel and have a fundamental rethink? Possibly with 3 wings, one commercial, one residential and one infrastructural?
Complete joke. Galway traffic was a disaster when I lived there and from what I hear it’s not got much better. Fact of the matter is you have desirable jobs in the east and desirable housing in the west and the only way to get from one to the other is by going into the city.
I hear moans of ‘public transport should be increased’. Pointless adding buses that will just be sitting in the same traffic, if only there were some way of bypassing the city that those buses could use instead or when the bypass opens close a lane on the bridge, Headford Rd for buses only and buses will go most places faster than any car. You need the ringroad for that though..
I hear moans of ‘gAlWay aLrEaDy hAs a RiNgRoad!’. Funny looking ring road that starts and ends inside the city. Yea it wasn’t like that when it was built and no the same thing can’t happen because of a giant fucking lake it will go across.
Braindead if you oppose it, it’s not a solution but makes other solutions much, much easier.
The eye watering stupidity of the people opposing this is, from experience, not worth engaging with. They have a single argument and nothing gets through. So don’t bother. Today is definitely a setback but the ring road is inevitable. Public infrastructure of this scale usually takes a few attempts anyway. Ireland just happens to be a particularly bureaucratic system. The bord conceding on a technicality is unsurprising in the current climate. Likely to be lodged again in 2 years with an extremely similar plan and more robust application in terms of objections. The majority of which have played all of their cards now. I look forward to the ring road as an actual user of Galway public transport and roads. Fair play and don’t give up to all the engineers and others who are working extremely hard on this.
Well now…that’s a double barrel to the foot isn’t it.
Imagine if they started putting in a useable public transport system in the city and suburbs when this whole outer bypass thing started up. We would have ended up not needing the bypass. Now we have neither. Sometimes I hate this fucking country.
No wonder traffic around Galway is insanity
Handbag theory of capacity.
I live and drive in Galway. At this point I think we should just forget the ring road and design and build a proper public transport system for the city. Light rail and busses and bar road traffic from the city centre.
ABP are clearly disfunctional. Consider this ruling in the light of the recent quashing of 1,400 new homes in Dublin, again due to issues where the law was not followed. To compound the problem, we have a Minister who has just announced legislation to remove judicial review of the planning process – effectively throwing in the towel rather than making ABP actually obey the law like everyone else.
How can a functioning planning board *not be aware* of landmark evironmental legislation passed just 4 days beforehand? How does that even happen? Either they are pumbing new depths of incompetence, or they are baldly lying and were just too lazy to bother with new information. Either way, they are not fulfilling their function to the State.
I would also caution the Green Party and supporters of being too happy about this. This decision does not remove a single car from Galway roads, which will continue to sit for literally hours 5 or 6 days a week, chugging out fumes all over Galway. It doesn’t add any buses, or create a light rail system, or add bike lanes. It just means that the roads that are there will be filled to the brim with cars, with no space for lanes of any desciption to be added. You might say that this decision will add imputus to those projects – to which I would point out that the State has been ‘looking at’ light rail for Galway since the last century; this bypass was first mooted in 1995. That’s the pace of investment in Galway. Even with the go-ahead last November, the project was still going to take 4 years. How long does Galway have to wait now?
Greens talking about ‘alternatives’ has the same hollow ring as Brexiteers talking about ‘technological solutions’ to the border. There are practical and real things that can and should be accomplished for the environment of this country; but when it comes to stopping development without having an actual tangible alternative in place, you should just take a step back and fuck off. Enjoy getting obliterated at the polls. Again.
These ring roads are a thing of the past. Galway needs to rethink its transport strategy and catch up with 21st century transport and spatial planning. Many people seem to be under the very mistaken belief that it would solve congestion. The planning reports conceded that it wouldn’t. It is really about opening up outlying land for sprawling development. Galway is fortunate this has been stopped.
Build a tunnel from oranmore to spiddal
There’s enough roads already and the traffic is a disaster. They should build a tramline.
I’m so sick of this nonsense. This country just doesn’t know how to get out of its own way.
Always great to see loads of comments from people not from Galway about this issue, or those who live within the city bounds and can walk or cycle to work.
If I used public transport it would take me 1.5 hours to make the 15 KM journey!!
This was needed for Galway. Galway is being strangled to death by the amount of traffic it has. The big employers won’t expand their operations here due to the traffic, I know cause I worked for the biggest of them.
Instead you get retarded fuckin parrots come on here going “Light rail! Light rail!”
To those idiots, where is your plan for light rail? Like you obviously have a turn key ready to go solution on the books for implementation and completion in Galway within the next 5 years yes? There’s no way you would actually comment “light rail” repeatedly without a 100% ready to go plan to take the place of the bypass right? Right? Or are you just spewing fucking horse shit cause anything is better than another road in your privileged eyes?
I love the politicians celebrating this by saying ” we can now start planning for sustainable travel” What in the name of Jesus was holding you back from planning it before now. Was this road making all other projects impossible or what. Bloody joke
Excellent news. If they intended this to be a traffic relief scheme to make space for sustainable transport, then they should have included the sustainable transport as part of the scheme from the start. People are constantly criticising gridlock on the crorrib bridges, yet this scheme didn’t included a single restriction on through traffic in the city centre. Building a bypass without restricting traffic through the gridlocked city centre once it opens is not a proper traffic management plan.
They just wanted to build a big road and thought vague commitments to maybe think about public transport in the future would be enough to ignore all the climate impacts.
Well they were wrong. If you live in Galway, you deserve to be angry. But you should be angry at the politicians and officials who pushed for the most expensive, most destructive, most car-centric option available, rather than a comprehensive walking, cycling, and public transport strategy, with perhaps a relief/ring road attached to remove city centre traffic.
Also be angry at your council who are hell bent on blocking absolutely anything that might reduce traffic. In other countries, cities of this size simply do not have the traffic that Galway has. This is largely caused by political choices, not the absence of a ring road.
Buses need roads too.
As a Galway resident, i can say that this is totally good and Galway does not have any traffic problem. (Hopefully my sarcasm is evident in that statement). Absolutely scandalous that it has been quashed yet again. Traffic in galway is getting worse with each passing day. Takes me roughly 1 hour to travel a 15-20 min journey everday.