It wouldnt be the SBB but the government who would introduce something like this.
Two notes:
-SBB doesn’t make the prices.
-There’s already the GA.
I just don’t like to go somewhere by train. For around 5 years, I had a GA and worked everywhere in Switzerland. And I even travelled by Night train to Vienna.
But now that I have a good car, I would not take the train anymore. Venice, Amsterdam, Prague, Vienna or Paris are so easy to reach by car. Just hop in and drive. And with all the fancy add-ons like heated seats with massage functions, I arrive way, way more energized than I would from going by train.
I hope not
Laughs in CHF
The SBB is already claiming a “400million CHF loss this year” and saving money where they can. The “loss” is not really a loss but rather expected profits that haven’t been reached as planned.
They are not even paying 1 single further education course for their employees as of rn due to “covid”.
With that said im extremly f**ng sure that it will never happen not even in 250 years
The only difference between the Austrian scheme and the Swiss GA is that in Austria, state subsidies pay a larger share of the overall costs of public transportation. This means the following:
* people who use public transportation have to contribute less
* people who don’t use public transportation have to contribute more (as taxes)
* some people are inclined to use public transportation more often or will go on trips they would not have otherwise made
* trains and buses will be fuller, particularly during rush hour
To adopt a similar scheme in Switzerland, you’d first have to ensure there’s sufficient capacity. I don’t know about the situation in Austria, but in Switzerland, the Zurich and Lausanne/Geneva areas in particular, trains are stacked and there’s currently no more room for a large increase in passengers, certainly not during rush hour. So you might end up lowering the transportation costs for people who would have taken the train and bus anyway, but convince only an insignificant number of additional people to ditch the car in favor of public transportation.
I will film myself eating my driver’s license and post the vid on this sub-reedit if they ever do smt that even resemble that
Honestly? No. SBB has showed multiple times (even recently) that they are an extremely greedy organization which literally could not give less of a shit about offering better, more widespread or environmentally friendly options.
In ticino they have been criticized multiple times for cutting trains that were already packed full to begin with, or for insisting to keep an empty first class on trains used by students. Plus the reasonable complaint of “why the fuck should i wear a mask and do social distancing if i am packed like a sardine in a train twice a day”.
That’s also why the price of tickets and abbos keeps climbing. They don’t care. They know that train transportation is absolutely essential in switzerland and that you, the consumer, have no other option. They used the environmentalist wave as an excuse to increase prices again as more people were encouraged to travel by train.
I have very low hopes for the ffs to do this, unless politics forces them to
I’d argue we should make it free. Aren’t some cities doing this already?
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Nope
Why? It’s already cheaper than owning a car. Also, on many routes the network is saturated. The Sparbillets are a nice solution.
SBB has a $10 go-anywhere ticket, to combat climate change.
Haha no, they will increase the price of the GA and other tickets to reduce demand
SBB already has go-anywhere ticket. It’s only CHF 75, almost equivalent Austrian price
It’s actually already a thing in southern Ticino. With the [Io Viaggio](https://www.regione.lombardia.it/wps/portal/istituzionale/HP/DettaglioServizio/servizi-e-informazioni/Cittadini/Muoversi-in-Lombardia/biglietti-e-agevolazioni/Io-viaggio/io-viaggio-ovunque-in-lombardia-biglietti-giornaliero-settimanale/io-viaggio-ovunque-in-lombardia-biglietti-giornaliero-settimanale) you can travel on almost all kinds of public transport in Lombardy for 108€ per month. I’m mentioning it here as Chiasso is included in the list of stations you can travel from/to with this ticket. The S lines that go from Switzerland to Italy aren’t included though.
It wouldnt be the SBB but the government who would introduce something like this.
Two notes:
-SBB doesn’t make the prices.
-There’s already the GA.
I just don’t like to go somewhere by train. For around 5 years, I had a GA and worked everywhere in Switzerland. And I even travelled by Night train to Vienna.
But now that I have a good car, I would not take the train anymore. Venice, Amsterdam, Prague, Vienna or Paris are so easy to reach by car. Just hop in and drive. And with all the fancy add-ons like heated seats with massage functions, I arrive way, way more energized than I would from going by train.
I hope not
Laughs in CHF
The SBB is already claiming a “400million CHF loss this year” and saving money where they can. The “loss” is not really a loss but rather expected profits that haven’t been reached as planned.
They are not even paying 1 single further education course for their employees as of rn due to “covid”.
With that said im extremly f**ng sure that it will never happen not even in 250 years
The only difference between the Austrian scheme and the Swiss GA is that in Austria, state subsidies pay a larger share of the overall costs of public transportation. This means the following:
* people who use public transportation have to contribute less
* people who don’t use public transportation have to contribute more (as taxes)
* some people are inclined to use public transportation more often or will go on trips they would not have otherwise made
* trains and buses will be fuller, particularly during rush hour
To adopt a similar scheme in Switzerland, you’d first have to ensure there’s sufficient capacity. I don’t know about the situation in Austria, but in Switzerland, the Zurich and Lausanne/Geneva areas in particular, trains are stacked and there’s currently no more room for a large increase in passengers, certainly not during rush hour. So you might end up lowering the transportation costs for people who would have taken the train and bus anyway, but convince only an insignificant number of additional people to ditch the car in favor of public transportation.
I will film myself eating my driver’s license and post the vid on this sub-reedit if they ever do smt that even resemble that
Honestly? No. SBB has showed multiple times (even recently) that they are an extremely greedy organization which literally could not give less of a shit about offering better, more widespread or environmentally friendly options.
In ticino they have been criticized multiple times for cutting trains that were already packed full to begin with, or for insisting to keep an empty first class on trains used by students. Plus the reasonable complaint of “why the fuck should i wear a mask and do social distancing if i am packed like a sardine in a train twice a day”.
That’s also why the price of tickets and abbos keeps climbing. They don’t care. They know that train transportation is absolutely essential in switzerland and that you, the consumer, have no other option. They used the environmentalist wave as an excuse to increase prices again as more people were encouraged to travel by train.
I have very low hopes for the ffs to do this, unless politics forces them to
I’d argue we should make it free. Aren’t some cities doing this already?