“Talkin’ out of turn? That’s a paddlin’.
Lookin’ out the window? That’s a paddlin’.”
This has been an issue for years; we’ve had countless student teachers take on almost full time jobs to bridge the gaps in my school.
We will really have to look at a system like London where essential workers, not just teachers, get a cost of living allowance. I know so many teachers who have given up a permanent position in Dublin to work as a substitute down the country because financially it worked out better for them.
Well I’ve noticed that with our teen she is in 6th year and has learned f all with the exception of one or two of her teachers the rest are atrocious grades have plummeted and not for the want of studying
Science teachers are getting poached by the private sector, language teachers the same. Home Ec are like gold dust these days. Lot of schools are reducing the subject option lines. Just no other options. Cannot get the staff. While the holidays are great. It’s the extra unpaid Croke Park hours, dealing with parents and hours of prep work seem to turn potential new staff off as they can get better conditions in private sector for similar qualifications (Healthcare, bonus culture, expenses, better pay, no teenagers)
Each job has its benefits I suppose.
Uh oh, this is what happened in America and their teachers are complete loons
Well, well, fucking well, Irish public. It’s almost like you culturally devalued, targetted, underfuckingpaid and orgiastically attacked teachers to the point that – shock horror – people are choosing not to be teachers. The Simpsons sanitation commissioner sends his regards.
As a teacher from the north who spent the guts of €600 trying to please the powers that be to register as a teacher down south, let me say I’m not in the least bit surprised. I gave up in the end because they wanted ridiculous, endless amounts of evidence that my English degree from Queens in Belfast was suitable. Have taught for 17 years in the north to A-level standard, so I don’t know what else they want to confirm that I know what I’m doing. Absolute joke of a process.
Small correction, it’s not a teacher shortage. It’s a shortage of teachers willing to do the job, with all the bullshit that comes with it, for the money we currently offer.
When they can make more money elsewhere for half the stress then of course they leave. The only way out of this is to pay enough to make it a worthwhile option again.
Teaching is like game developers or graphic designers, there’s a passion tax. Because lots of people really want to be teachers and see it as a calling and something worthwhile, we think we can get away with underpaying them and treating them like shit. Well, we’ve apparently hit the limit on that.
Irish teachers are well-paid. Newly qualified teachers start on 36k, while the average teacher makes 61k.
Based on the IT article, it seems that the shortages are due to a stressful work environment and a shit work/life balance, with teachers spending as much time doing admin as they do teaching, which is the same reason so many junior doctors are leaving.
I was considering doing the post-primary conversion course but it’s 2 years long and costs 15,000 euro a year. It’s prohibitively expensive, the employment within Ireland is shit-tier as well, time to head to Canada to work on a pipeline I guess.
Teacher union strikes, only language politicians understand, shut down everything and threaten the leaving cert , cos the longer FFG stay around the more deaf they become
The number of outlets using the word ‘unprecedented’ is too damn high!
Teach abroad with a much lower cost of living, Better weather , better-behaved students, less work and only more money. While being able to afford an apartment with a pool and gym and eat out daily. See no reason to ever teach at home so this is no shock.
The unprecedented teacher shortage is probably a result of the unprecedented “enough pay to get by” shortage
Plot spoiler, the ones with degrees were actually also unqualified if we’re being honest
That’s one thing that never made sense since I was young, why wouldn’t teachers be highly paid like doctors
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“Talkin’ out of turn? That’s a paddlin’.
Lookin’ out the window? That’s a paddlin’.”
This has been an issue for years; we’ve had countless student teachers take on almost full time jobs to bridge the gaps in my school.
We will really have to look at a system like London where essential workers, not just teachers, get a cost of living allowance. I know so many teachers who have given up a permanent position in Dublin to work as a substitute down the country because financially it worked out better for them.
Well I’ve noticed that with our teen she is in 6th year and has learned f all with the exception of one or two of her teachers the rest are atrocious grades have plummeted and not for the want of studying
Science teachers are getting poached by the private sector, language teachers the same. Home Ec are like gold dust these days. Lot of schools are reducing the subject option lines. Just no other options. Cannot get the staff. While the holidays are great. It’s the extra unpaid Croke Park hours, dealing with parents and hours of prep work seem to turn potential new staff off as they can get better conditions in private sector for similar qualifications (Healthcare, bonus culture, expenses, better pay, no teenagers)
Each job has its benefits I suppose.
Uh oh, this is what happened in America and their teachers are complete loons
Well, well, fucking well, Irish public. It’s almost like you culturally devalued, targetted, underfuckingpaid and orgiastically attacked teachers to the point that – shock horror – people are choosing not to be teachers. The Simpsons sanitation commissioner sends his regards.
As a teacher from the north who spent the guts of €600 trying to please the powers that be to register as a teacher down south, let me say I’m not in the least bit surprised. I gave up in the end because they wanted ridiculous, endless amounts of evidence that my English degree from Queens in Belfast was suitable. Have taught for 17 years in the north to A-level standard, so I don’t know what else they want to confirm that I know what I’m doing. Absolute joke of a process.
Small correction, it’s not a teacher shortage. It’s a shortage of teachers willing to do the job, with all the bullshit that comes with it, for the money we currently offer.
When they can make more money elsewhere for half the stress then of course they leave. The only way out of this is to pay enough to make it a worthwhile option again.
Teaching is like game developers or graphic designers, there’s a passion tax. Because lots of people really want to be teachers and see it as a calling and something worthwhile, we think we can get away with underpaying them and treating them like shit. Well, we’ve apparently hit the limit on that.
Irish teachers are well-paid. Newly qualified teachers start on 36k, while the average teacher makes 61k.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-teachers-among-highest-paid-25295411
Based on the IT article, it seems that the shortages are due to a stressful work environment and a shit work/life balance, with teachers spending as much time doing admin as they do teaching, which is the same reason so many junior doctors are leaving.
I was considering doing the post-primary conversion course but it’s 2 years long and costs 15,000 euro a year. It’s prohibitively expensive, the employment within Ireland is shit-tier as well, time to head to Canada to work on a pipeline I guess.
Teacher union strikes, only language politicians understand, shut down everything and threaten the leaving cert , cos the longer FFG stay around the more deaf they become
The number of outlets using the word ‘unprecedented’ is too damn high!
Teach abroad with a much lower cost of living, Better weather , better-behaved students, less work and only more money. While being able to afford an apartment with a pool and gym and eat out daily. See no reason to ever teach at home so this is no shock.
The unprecedented teacher shortage is probably a result of the unprecedented “enough pay to get by” shortage
Plot spoiler, the ones with degrees were actually also unqualified if we’re being honest
That’s one thing that never made sense since I was young, why wouldn’t teachers be highly paid like doctors