I’ve done this for years daily nearly… Easy to guess my job.
I see this slowly happening. My friends and I already do this. Modern Irish-English take
I think if we taught Irish like this in school, learning small phrases and using them everyday in class, then our Irish speaker rates would be a lot higher
Excellent idea mo chara, maith thú. Giota beag gach lá.
Even Irish people who refuse to speak Irish will often speak English that has been influenced by it. Things like answering Yes/ No questions without using Yes/ No, phrases that start with “I’m after…” and using the past habitual tense like “There used be..”/ “I’d have been…”
I’m all for seeing a bit more Irish in everyday speech. Languages influence each other and keep the world interesting. Irish even has some words that made it into mainstream English to some extent.
Everyone in Ireland already knows the everyday phrases, we just couldn’t be arsed using them day to day. How do you get people to start using them is the problem.
Ultimately it comes down to education. We aren’t taught very well. Go look at people on YouTube learning lanuages, it looks very fun because people are using the language to converse right away. They aren’t bogged down by grammar and tenses, they just learn the sentences that they’ll use day to day and by day 1 they can do basic things like say hello and introduce themselves. This is such a boost to ones confidence when they can speak straight away.
We need to re-think how we teach foreign languages and impliment change soon before the language dies off completly. We lose a lot of our culture and heritage when lose our own language.
This is what primary schools already do, and it doesn’t work. I can say tá brón or, but I can hardly understand a word of r/gaeilge
I am using them more and more now as time goes on. I don’t speak Irish very well but I am teaching myself bit by bit each day. Let’s do it lads, we all know the very basics, let’s do this!
I say “Mise fresin” often. Said it in Tesco one day to a woman giving out about something as Bearla, and she started speaking as Gaeilge to me. Bit of an awkward moment.
Go mo leithsceal, but ‘ll be damned if I’m gonna be tricked into saying ‘Brón orm’!
As a Yank currently learning the language my family spoke before the boat ride a century ago, more Irish folk using Gaeilge casually would *immensely* improve my ability to pick it up and keep it going. Books and apps have their use but there’s no substitute for immersion. Mile buiochas.
Cínte.
Was exempt from doing Irish in secondary but could still flawlessly ask to go to the toilet
Look I think I speak for a lot of people who have struggled with this language.
I can’t fuckin read it!!!
Jesus christ fuckin phonetics!
Help us out here.
Would it be so bad if all primary schools were just gaelige schools, with one English class for reading and writing instead of the other way around? I know some people said the transiting then after primary school with using unfamiliar terms in math for example in English was difficult but they did adjust.
This has been the ways for decades; older people in rural areas, RTÉ presenters, newsreaders, service industry etc.
Its a good idea, but not a new idea, and not a fix.
I do say maith an fear a lot when I go home… mixed reactions, sometimes surprising.
Agreed, this is the best way to build any skill. Learning to walk before you run
Is fheàrr Gàidhlig briste na Gàidhlig sa chiste
I can picture it now:
‘Léigh anois go cúramach ar do scrúdpháipéar, na treoracha agus na ceisteanna a ghabhann le Cuid A’
Person beside you on the DART: ‘Beeeeeeeeeeeeep’
Here’s an idea. Just let people speak Irish if they want to. Don’t try and ram it down everyone’s throat. That policy already does not work.
Nah I’ve enough to be worrying about daily without trying to revive a dead language which is the states duty they have so clearly failed at.
I’m not even sure which podcast it is that I’m listening to does this but one of them signs everything off with ‘Slán, slán’ and now I Can’t. Stop. saying it.
The fadhb is mó with the Irish language is that it’s mostly spoken in the most rural parts of the tír. That severely limits its appeal to the daoine óga.
I always say “Tiocfaidh ár lá” to the neighbours.
Because – and this is the bit reviivalists never seem to get – it’s not actually what “we all” want.
I am always really embarrassed by the fact I cannot speak Irish. So I would welcome this. I have started to follow Irish speakers/teachers online to help. Anything I did manage to learn in school has left me through non use.
I never understood why we were not thought all our subjects, bar math or other languages in Ireland from day one!
Lucky to get those sentences in english even these days…
Scéal, a chapaill
Well because there are hundreds of thousands of Irish people along with non Irish people living in Ireland who don’t care about the Irish language and don’t appreciate the attempts a vocal minority make to keep it alive.
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Don’t you already do this?
Póg mo thoin
I’ve done this for years daily nearly… Easy to guess my job.
I see this slowly happening. My friends and I already do this. Modern Irish-English take
I think if we taught Irish like this in school, learning small phrases and using them everyday in class, then our Irish speaker rates would be a lot higher
Excellent idea mo chara, maith thú. Giota beag gach lá.
Even Irish people who refuse to speak Irish will often speak English that has been influenced by it. Things like answering Yes/ No questions without using Yes/ No, phrases that start with “I’m after…” and using the past habitual tense like “There used be..”/ “I’d have been…”
I’m all for seeing a bit more Irish in everyday speech. Languages influence each other and keep the world interesting. Irish even has some words that made it into mainstream English to some extent.
Everyone in Ireland already knows the everyday phrases, we just couldn’t be arsed using them day to day. How do you get people to start using them is the problem.
Ultimately it comes down to education. We aren’t taught very well. Go look at people on YouTube learning lanuages, it looks very fun because people are using the language to converse right away. They aren’t bogged down by grammar and tenses, they just learn the sentences that they’ll use day to day and by day 1 they can do basic things like say hello and introduce themselves. This is such a boost to ones confidence when they can speak straight away.
We need to re-think how we teach foreign languages and impliment change soon before the language dies off completly. We lose a lot of our culture and heritage when lose our own language.
This is what primary schools already do, and it doesn’t work. I can say tá brón or, but I can hardly understand a word of r/gaeilge
I am using them more and more now as time goes on. I don’t speak Irish very well but I am teaching myself bit by bit each day. Let’s do it lads, we all know the very basics, let’s do this!
I say “Mise fresin” often. Said it in Tesco one day to a woman giving out about something as Bearla, and she started speaking as Gaeilge to me. Bit of an awkward moment.
Go mo leithsceal, but ‘ll be damned if I’m gonna be tricked into saying ‘Brón orm’!
As a Yank currently learning the language my family spoke before the boat ride a century ago, more Irish folk using Gaeilge casually would *immensely* improve my ability to pick it up and keep it going. Books and apps have their use but there’s no substitute for immersion. Mile buiochas.
Cínte.
Was exempt from doing Irish in secondary but could still flawlessly ask to go to the toilet
Look I think I speak for a lot of people who have struggled with this language.
I can’t fuckin read it!!!
Jesus christ fuckin phonetics!
Help us out here.
Would it be so bad if all primary schools were just gaelige schools, with one English class for reading and writing instead of the other way around? I know some people said the transiting then after primary school with using unfamiliar terms in math for example in English was difficult but they did adjust.
This has been the ways for decades; older people in rural areas, RTÉ presenters, newsreaders, service industry etc.
Its a good idea, but not a new idea, and not a fix.
I do say maith an fear a lot when I go home… mixed reactions, sometimes surprising.
Agreed, this is the best way to build any skill. Learning to walk before you run
Is fheàrr Gàidhlig briste na Gàidhlig sa chiste
I can picture it now:
‘Léigh anois go cúramach ar do scrúdpháipéar, na treoracha agus na ceisteanna a ghabhann le Cuid A’
Person beside you on the DART: ‘Beeeeeeeeeeeeep’
Here’s an idea. Just let people speak Irish if they want to. Don’t try and ram it down everyone’s throat. That policy already does not work.
Nah I’ve enough to be worrying about daily without trying to revive a dead language which is the states duty they have so clearly failed at.
I’m not even sure which podcast it is that I’m listening to does this but one of them signs everything off with ‘Slán, slán’ and now I Can’t. Stop. saying it.
The fadhb is mó with the Irish language is that it’s mostly spoken in the most rural parts of the tír. That severely limits its appeal to the daoine óga.
I always say “Tiocfaidh ár lá” to the neighbours.
Because – and this is the bit reviivalists never seem to get – it’s not actually what “we all” want.
I am always really embarrassed by the fact I cannot speak Irish. So I would welcome this. I have started to follow Irish speakers/teachers online to help. Anything I did manage to learn in school has left me through non use.
I never understood why we were not thought all our subjects, bar math or other languages in Ireland from day one!
Lucky to get those sentences in english even these days…
Scéal, a chapaill
Well because there are hundreds of thousands of Irish people along with non Irish people living in Ireland who don’t care about the Irish language and don’t appreciate the attempts a vocal minority make to keep it alive.