it can take up to 15 years for car batteries to degrade to the point they have no use,and after that they can be recycled
China has affordable mass market electric vehicles, in Europe they exist to make well of people feel nice.
Maybe cause it’s now cheaper to drive petrol then electric with current economics
I am disappointed they did not also supply a graph with ‘all’ car sales, as the (mainly chips) “supply chain” issues meant that there were (are) simply no (petrol/diesel) cars to sell in the first place.
How about more high speed trains that work across Europe?
And more electrified public transport inside the cities?
We wait for the new 50k Euros SUV to buy. Can’t wait to go to supermarket market and kids in school practice etc with my new 20 inch rims.
Infrastructure is dogshit and EU strategy to improve it is dogshit as well. There’s a big financial incentive for the main euro car producers to slow down EV adoption as much as possible.
The problem is that a lot of the big European countries don’t make electric cars affordable (in price) and convenient (with charge areas everywhere in urban areas like Norway) enough.
I don’t know what is the ratio between electric car prices and salaries in China and the US, however in most European countries (mostly referring to Mediterranean EU and Eastern EU) buying an electric – or even a hybrid – car, is an unachievable goal for the vast majority of citizens.
Europe really does seem to be the “old continent” in any of the key strategic industries for the future it seems to be lagging behind the US and China.
Are we subsiding US cars again?
There should be a huge link between the drop in H1 2022 and the electricity prices rising with the Russian war. Should be back to a growth path once electricity market stabilizes.
Thing is, at least in Germany, a lot of new car sales are sponsored to a degree by the state and company. ~64% of new car sales last year were “company cars”.
And these are almost always diesel engines, because of the high mileage they make.
It’s called “Dienstwagenprivileg” which means that you’re also allowed to drive the company car for private use and just pay 1% of the cars worth in additional income tax.
Until that BS is abolished, or electric cars can drive 800km with one charge, nothing will change. :/
EU Electric Car subsidies expired last year.
Europe should invest much more in hydrogen aircrafts, railway, subways, streetcar systems, bus infrastructure than in cars. Cars are just a waste of money, resources and space. The infrastructure alone that is needed to provide every household with the sufficient power grids is ridiculous.
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source:[https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/europes-electric-car-sales-stagnating-as-china-gains-foothold/](https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/europes-electric-car-sales-stagnating-as-china-gains-foothold/)
obviously, electric cars are not the solution to everything,and i am still in favor of more public transport,especially trains
**that being said, when we have to use cars,its better for them to be electric**
also batteries are not the boogeyman people claimed to be in the begging
old electric car batteries can be sold in the second hand market and used for solar power storage
**Daimler for example uses 1000 old i3 batteries to store solar power in Lunen, Germany**
[https://blog.ucsusa.org/hanjiro-ambrose/the-second-life-of-used-ev-batteries/](https://blog.ucsusa.org/hanjiro-ambrose/the-second-life-of-used-ev-batteries/)
it can take up to 15 years for car batteries to degrade to the point they have no use,and after that they can be recycled
China has affordable mass market electric vehicles, in Europe they exist to make well of people feel nice.
Maybe cause it’s now cheaper to drive petrol then electric with current economics
I am disappointed they did not also supply a graph with ‘all’ car sales, as the (mainly chips) “supply chain” issues meant that there were (are) simply no (petrol/diesel) cars to sell in the first place.
How about more high speed trains that work across Europe?
And more electrified public transport inside the cities?
We wait for the new 50k Euros SUV to buy. Can’t wait to go to supermarket market and kids in school practice etc with my new 20 inch rims.
Infrastructure is dogshit and EU strategy to improve it is dogshit as well. There’s a big financial incentive for the main euro car producers to slow down EV adoption as much as possible.
The problem is that a lot of the big European countries don’t make electric cars affordable (in price) and convenient (with charge areas everywhere in urban areas like Norway) enough.
I don’t know what is the ratio between electric car prices and salaries in China and the US, however in most European countries (mostly referring to Mediterranean EU and Eastern EU) buying an electric – or even a hybrid – car, is an unachievable goal for the vast majority of citizens.
Europe really does seem to be the “old continent” in any of the key strategic industries for the future it seems to be lagging behind the US and China.
Are we subsiding US cars again?
There should be a huge link between the drop in H1 2022 and the electricity prices rising with the Russian war. Should be back to a growth path once electricity market stabilizes.
Thing is, at least in Germany, a lot of new car sales are sponsored to a degree by the state and company. ~64% of new car sales last year were “company cars”.
And these are almost always diesel engines, because of the high mileage they make.
It’s called “Dienstwagenprivileg” which means that you’re also allowed to drive the company car for private use and just pay 1% of the cars worth in additional income tax.
Until that BS is abolished, or electric cars can drive 800km with one charge, nothing will change. :/
EU Electric Car subsidies expired last year.
Europe should invest much more in hydrogen aircrafts, railway, subways, streetcar systems, bus infrastructure than in cars. Cars are just a waste of money, resources and space. The infrastructure alone that is needed to provide every household with the sufficient power grids is ridiculous.